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I'm more curious about who is going to be their coach. Tasteless again?
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I still wish the best for HuK in the future!
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On August 17 2011 03:09 NyxErinyes wrote: Nausea-inspiring. My only hope is that HuK crushes Idra so horribly and repeatedly in practice that Idra retires.
Seriously though, this is just sad. Talk about selling out.
From all accounts EG gave HuK a pretty good salary to make this move, are you going to shit on him for making his life better? We know from BW that careers dont last forever so why not celebrate that an awesome player brought himself up from Destiny-esque cult status to legit Code S contender and now is making money?
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On August 17 2011 03:11 goswser wrote: so is huk on eg or liquid in the eg vs liquid match for gcpl? also for mlg raleigh is he going to be in a liquid jersey or an eg one? EG I'd imagine, they said it was effective immidietly
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This news makes me very sad. I'm glad that HuK will be making more money with EG, but not practicing in the oGs house is going to deteriorate his skills greatly. The oGs-TL partnership is the reason he was able to maximize his potential as a player, so I really hope EG extends some partnerships of their own to make this arrangement work. It will be difficult, as I don't think EG has the best reputation in Korea right now.
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On August 17 2011 03:09 NyxErinyes wrote: Nausea-inspiring. My only hope is that HuK crushes Idra so horribly and repeatedly in practice that Idra retires.
Seriously though, this is just sad. Talk about selling out.
O so if another company came to you and offered 3 times more money to work for them doing the same exact job, you wouldn't take the offer cause thats selling out huh. Welcome to the real world broseph, people prefer to get paid for their work so, you know, they can enjoy life and retire one day. Pleasing some 14 year old fanbois who hate eg for whatever reason doesn't pay the bills.
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600 pages of hype. 40 pages of discussion.
Not equal.
I like HuK and Liquid, I even like EG, they want to be the best, and now they have arguably two of the top 3 best players from NA.
I don't think this should have been hyped that much, the way Liquid announced in was so much better, with the focus on the player, and his testimony, as well as those of his friends and former team mates. EG just made a hype thread and pulled out their dick when the count down was over.
I wish both teams, and HuK the best of luck, and I look forward to HuK and IdrA together in Korea. Show them how we play in (north) America!
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Soooo....does this mean we're going to finally get to see Idra and Huk brawl outside of an SC2 match?
GL to you Huk, While I'm disappointed you're not part of Liquid anymore, I totally understand why you're making the switch. Life as a progamer is hard. Hope joining EG makes your life a little easier.
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Goodluck to Huk..However sad to see Liquid"s only code S contender go...Jinro needs to step up his game now and become one of the top terrans in Korea..
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EG buys out oGs. You heard it here first!
It would be great for another Western-based team to have a presence in the GSTL. And might as well poach Naniwa and Thorzain while you are at it.
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On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days?
I agree with that 100%. EG appears to have acquired HuK in a reasonable way and you can't blame HuK (dude's gotta eat right)
But I can't imagine anyone on TL or the staff who felt great about it. The hype was at the expense of TL and as you said I think its a scumbaggy thing for EG to do
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On August 17 2011 03:13 darkest44 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 03:09 NyxErinyes wrote: Nausea-inspiring. My only hope is that HuK crushes Idra so horribly and repeatedly in practice that Idra retires.
Seriously though, this is just sad. Talk about selling out. O so if another company came to you and offered 3 times more money to work for them doing the same exact job, you wouldn't take the offer cause thats selling out huh. Welcome to the real world broseph, people prefer to get paid for their work so, you know, they can enjoy life and retire one day. While this is no doubt true, I think it's unfairly dismissive to treat being on a pro gaming team the same as being in a regular 9-5 job. The situation should be compared to any athlete taking the highest available contract in the prime of their career. Some do end up regretting it, especially when they get older, and I'm sure some do not.
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Make a stand. Boycott EG and their sponsors.
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On August 17 2011 03:09 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 03:08 Tachion wrote:On August 17 2011 03:06 lizzard_warish wrote:On August 17 2011 03:03 Tachion wrote:On August 17 2011 03:02 travis wrote:On August 17 2011 02:59 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:55 travis wrote:On August 17 2011 02:50 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:43 travis wrote:On August 17 2011 02:33 crappen wrote: [quote]
Stealing? Both teams throw what they had at Huk, who really deserves this after what he have accomplished.
Aren't you glad teams are stepping up and compete for the players? Its a pretty nice spot for the player I must say, to have such choices.
I was atleast thrilles cause of this, really shocked, I never thought that Huk would join forces with EG. The 3 days hyping worked for me stealing is semantics. they bought him out. they used capabilities liquid couldn't match, it could be argued that's stealing - "taking by force". On August 17 2011 02:34 farvacola wrote: [quote] Anyone else think that Team Liquid willingly allowed EG to hype up this exchange for the benefit of the scene in general? If anything, it makes TL look even more awesome, as they are willing to allow fellow foreigner teams to hype up player acquisitions and overall create buzz? And again, one "steals" property, Huk is not going nowhere against his will. willingly? what does that mean. if you are asking if nazgul was happy about them hyping up the taking of his star player then no. On August 17 2011 02:34 Logros wrote: [quote] Well it's also the announcement that IdrA is going back to Korea and that they're setting up a team house there. But I think noone expected a 600 page thread full of hype ><. I guess that's true but I think it's purposeful planning by EG so they can hype both at the same time, knowing that hyping just the taking of huk would be incredibly rude. Actually on second thought maybe that isn't purposeful planning because that still sounds like something EG would do. On August 17 2011 02:34 darmousseh wrote: [quote]
If liquid was signing idra, wouldn't they hype it for several days at least? Maybe if he was a free agent who was looking for a team. If liquid nabbed a member of another team by buying them out (like that would happen) - they would have some tact about how they announce it. On August 17 2011 02:35 iCCup.Diamond wrote: [quote]
No it's the signing of a new player. Should not matter which team he is on, plus they went about it the right way (contacting Naz). Can't see how that's scumbaggy. Plus they were also hyping that and IdrA back to Korea and the EG Korea house...... What does that mean? If they talked to naz it was just so they could buy out his contract, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how they announce it. On August 17 2011 02:36 Ozcollo wrote: [quote]
How did they steal him? They literally did this the best way possible. It is EG I guess and people are always irrational in their hate when it comes to them. It's semantics. You've never heard "steal" used that way? So Liquid stole Huk (as well as all their other players) when they signed him a year ago? And no I've never heard steal used in that way, that's retarded. I thought huk was a free agent? And anyways I don't think you're getting it lol. you've really never heard steal use that way? how old are you? we're at the store buying cucumbers. there is one cucumber left. you see it. I run up and grab it. you: "you stole that cucumber right out from me.". we're at an auction, we both want a puma doll. some guy bids 10 thousand. you make a gigantic bid, 5 million! "100 billion!", I shout. I stole the puma doll from you. If he was a free agent how could they fucking steal him. That's your word, not mine. You say it's semantics when in reality it's just you using a charged word to try and further discredit a team you dislike. What? Are you retarded? Huk was a free agent when liquid signed him... not when EG took him from liquid, lol And if someone beat me at an auction that's not stealing, that's winning an auction you buttfrustrated little boy (Sorry, thought I should bring age into it too). That analogy was weak.
apparently you are too dumb to understand that words have multiple meanings and don't always have to be used 100% literally In professional sports, a free agent is a player whose contract with a team has expired and who is thus eligible to sign with another club or franchise. Hence Huk was not a free agent... .......what? HuK's contract with Liquid expired, hence why they were trying to negotiate new terms/salary etc. EG picked up HuK AFTER his contract with liquid expired and he WAS a free agent. Read the post again. EG bought out the remainder of HuK's contract. His free agency should be irrelevant, since it never occurred.
Don't think it matters whether he was a free agent or not, EG went through the correct channels and handled this as well as possible. Professional athletes get their contracts bought out all of the time.... you know by who? By the teams that contracted them, not the incoming team. So TL didn't make off too shabby - their boy Huk provided them with a performer who gave them results, and on his departure that success led to them having EG buy out the remainder of his contract so he could be a "free agent" (so to speak since his TL contract was bought out) and do what he wished to do (sign with EG). Then they did their two players the best service possible by providing them with hype and exposure, something very few teams can do for their players in the way that EG can (not saying TL cant this isnt about TL/EG). I think it's pretty awesome what EG did for iDra and Huk, I'd be pretty stoked seeing the viral campaign unfold and then seeing the advertisement, the video, the entire media package that was released with the news.
Big thumbs up to EG for continuing to push E-Sports where no other team dares.
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On August 17 2011 03:15 Vejovis wrote: But I can't imagine anyone on TL or the staff who felt great about it. The hype was at the expense of TL and as you said I think its a scumbaggy thing for EG to do
yeah i agree with this. it must've been painful for any TL staff to watch everyone get so excited and play detective in the 'hype' thread...
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Im extremely disappointed in huks decision.. there are much more important things in life then money.. friends and family being one of them. I've always respected HuK as a player, but bagging ur teammates for money made me lose respect for him as a person.
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as an EG fan this is a proud day, but as a starcraft and esports fan, i am sad to see the idra and huk rivalry die essentially or at the very least it has lost the majority of its luster. EG FIGHTING!!!!
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On August 17 2011 03:02 eeio wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:53 Malaz wrote:On August 17 2011 02:49 eeio wrote: Funny how delusional people are like they "know" things.
How does this mean HuK will get worse as a player?
Are some of you really that stupid to think he can't practice SC2 still, living in a different training house? It's called battle.net ... That's how you play SC2 with people, even when you're sitting right fucking next to them or in the same room. He switches teams and it means he can no longer play with anyone in Korea but IdrA and PuMa?
Get a fucking clue, and chill the fuck out fanboi's. Yeah you totally got the point of a korean training house. You don't think, having the opportunity to talk with people like MC face to face about strats/matchups may have helped HuK becoming such a great player? Uh, he can't speak proper english, at all, so where do you get off at? You don't become good by talking lol. You play the game, that's how they communicated, through the game, through practice. They can still do this. He can still play with any Korean player he wants to through battle.net. Stop being so smart.
Yes, you do. You can only go so far laddering and just mindlessly grinding games with good players. What's the point in grinding out X build against Y build if your partner can't tell you you're doing it wrong. Do you really think the best sports teams get better by just playing pick up games with each other?
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On August 17 2011 03:16 Grimsong wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 03:09 Jibba wrote:On August 17 2011 03:08 Tachion wrote:On August 17 2011 03:06 lizzard_warish wrote:On August 17 2011 03:03 Tachion wrote:On August 17 2011 03:02 travis wrote:On August 17 2011 02:59 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:55 travis wrote:On August 17 2011 02:50 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:43 travis wrote: [quote]
stealing is semantics. they bought him out. they used capabilities liquid couldn't match, it could be argued that's stealing - "taking by force".
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willingly? what does that mean. if you are asking if nazgul was happy about them hyping up the taking of his star player then no.
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I guess that's true but I think it's purposeful planning by EG so they can hype both at the same time, knowing that hyping just the taking of huk would be incredibly rude. Actually on second thought maybe that isn't purposeful planning because that still sounds like something EG would do.
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Maybe if he was a free agent who was looking for a team. If liquid nabbed a member of another team by buying them out (like that would happen) - they would have some tact about how they announce it.
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What does that mean? If they talked to naz it was just so they could buy out his contract, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how they announce it.
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It's semantics. You've never heard "steal" used that way? So Liquid stole Huk (as well as all their other players) when they signed him a year ago? And no I've never heard steal used in that way, that's retarded. I thought huk was a free agent? And anyways I don't think you're getting it lol. you've really never heard steal use that way? how old are you? we're at the store buying cucumbers. there is one cucumber left. you see it. I run up and grab it. you: "you stole that cucumber right out from me.". we're at an auction, we both want a puma doll. some guy bids 10 thousand. you make a gigantic bid, 5 million! "100 billion!", I shout. I stole the puma doll from you. If he was a free agent how could they fucking steal him. That's your word, not mine. You say it's semantics when in reality it's just you using a charged word to try and further discredit a team you dislike. What? Are you retarded? Huk was a free agent when liquid signed him... not when EG took him from liquid, lol And if someone beat me at an auction that's not stealing, that's winning an auction you buttfrustrated little boy (Sorry, thought I should bring age into it too). That analogy was weak.
apparently you are too dumb to understand that words have multiple meanings and don't always have to be used 100% literally In professional sports, a free agent is a player whose contract with a team has expired and who is thus eligible to sign with another club or franchise. Hence Huk was not a free agent... .......what? HuK's contract with Liquid expired, hence why they were trying to negotiate new terms/salary etc. EG picked up HuK AFTER his contract with liquid expired and he WAS a free agent. Read the post again. EG bought out the remainder of HuK's contract. His free agency should be irrelevant, since it never occurred. EG went through the correct channels and handled this as well as possible. Yes, that is what Alex said.
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