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On August 17 2011 02:38 Jyvblamo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:36 Cloud9157 wrote: Big mistake by Liquid imo.
Never would have expected this from Huk.
Lost a little more respect for EG, but thats just my opinion, so no one get offended over it. Mistake by Liquid? How could they have affected Huk's decision to go to EG when even Nazgul said: Show nested quote + The last few weeks were the negotiation period of Huk's contract. We had known since a few months ago that it would be a difficult period. Coming off winning championships at Dreamhack and HSC, and with a legion of fans supporting him, it was obvious that there would be a lot of interest in acquiring HuK. For us, this meant making him an offer that we felt would rival any other offer that we thought could be made. To the furthest extent our finances would allow, we tried to keep HuK with the team. HuK, too, wanted to stay very much. He loved being a part of Liquid, and was willing to stay with us for significantly less than other teams. However, the offer that he received from EG wasn't just significant, it was potentially life-changing.
The only possible thing Liquid could have done is tie him down to a longer contract or begin the renewing phase earlier like in other sports. But I don't think SC2 is anywhere near that kind of level yet.
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awesome dude. Just awesome. Big Huk fan, Big EG fan. AWESOME!
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On August 17 2011 02:33 crappen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Stealing? Both teams throw what they had at Huk, who really deserves this after what he have accomplished. Aren't you glad teams are stepping up and compete for the players? Its a pretty nice spot for the player I must say, to have such choices. I was atleast thrilles cause of this, really shocked, I never thought that Huk would join forces with EG. The 3 days hyping worked for me
stealing is semantics. they bought him out. they used capabilities liquid couldn't match, it could be argued that's stealing - "taking by force".
On August 17 2011 02:34 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Anyone else think that Team Liquid willingly allowed EG to hype up this exchange for the benefit of the scene in general? If anything, it makes TL look even more awesome, as they are willing to allow fellow foreigner teams to hype up player acquisitions and overall create buzz? And again, one "steals" property, Huk is not going nowhere against his will.
willingly? what does that mean. if you are asking if nazgul was happy about them hyping up the taking of his star player then no.
On August 17 2011 02:34 Logros wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Well it's also the announcement that IdrA is going back to Korea and that they're setting up a team house there. But I think noone expected a 600 page thread full of hype ><.
I guess that's true but I think it's purposeful planning by EG so they can hype both at the same time, knowing that hyping just the taking of huk would be incredibly rude. Actually on second thought maybe that isn't purposeful planning because that still sounds like something EG would do.
On August 17 2011 02:34 darmousseh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? If liquid was signing idra, wouldn't they hype it for several days at least?
Maybe if he was a free agent who was looking for a team. If liquid nabbed a member of another team by buying them out (like that would happen) - they would have some tact about how they announce it.
On August 17 2011 02:35 iCCup.Diamond wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? No it's the signing of a new player. Should not matter which team he is on, plus they went about it the right way (contacting Naz). Can't see how that's scumbaggy. Plus they were also hyping that and IdrA back to Korea and the EG Korea house......
What does that mean? If they talked to naz it was just so they could buy out his contract, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how they announce it.
On August 17 2011 02:36 Ozcollo wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? How did they steal him? They literally did this the best way possible. It is EG I guess and people are always irrational in their hate when it comes to them.
It's semantics. You've never heard "steal" used that way?
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Wow, this is amazing stuff. Puma, Idra and HuK training hardcore in Korea will only mean some insane level of play will be reached. Who knows, maybe Idra will even manage to accept that zerg can beat protoss (i joke!) :D
Seriously though, I can't wait to see how this goes in the GSL. Love the picture on the EG website haha, its totally over the top and awesome.
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...I get it...they want to become the best protoss, zerg, and terran in the world
it's ingenious o.o
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On August 17 2011 01:52 Weemoed wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 01:45 taLbuk wrote:On August 17 2011 01:44 sleepingdog wrote: I have to admit I haven't read anything, but has anyone a clue what exactly EG offered to HuK? HuK must obviously be aware of the fact that EG has overall worse practice partners, let alone the drama this must cause for him on a personal level.
Anyone knows what the deal is exactly like? I hope nobody feels like I want to insult anyone as salaries/etc. are normally public knowledge in basketball, ice-hockey, football, etc. HuK will be in KOREA still in a new place with idra and puma, do you honestly think that he still wont train with his oGs friends and on the korea ladder? Like I said, of course they will stay in contact, but in a different way than actually living in the oGs house. When you're part of a team, you try to come up with new insights and strategies while keeping these secret for the other teams. This is basically the way how you prepare for a high-level tournament like the GSL. Now, when HuK is leaving the house, these specific insights that MC or Inca might come up with will not be given to HuK, probably only to a lesser extent. So, it still is a bad situation because your practise possibilities will become smaller. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 01:46 cheesemaster wrote:On August 17 2011 01:43 Weemoed wrote: Although it's great for HuK, I'm still wondering about some of the decisions EG made recently:
- Why buying a house in Arizona if your best player there (IdrA) is moving away? I don't think the other members will really improve a lot without a much better player coaching and motivating them.
- While it's great for EG to have a house in Korea, it only contains three players and no coach. So, for preparing for an upcoming match, I don't know if it's good to just practise to one person for a specific match-up or not having the possibility of recieving some insights or help from players who play the same race. Of course, contact with members from oGs will still exist, but to a lesser extent of course than when playing in the oGs house and requiring strategies they come up with.
So, while I partly dislike the decision from HuK and partly support him, I hope he can continue his current succes in this new house. Yea unless they are purchasing a coach, i dont see how it can be anywhere near as appealing as the OGS house, with how many players they have + great support from coaches/ manager. Huk wasnt thinking about that though, he was thinking about that PAPER PAPER. ANd i think it wont be many more than the three of them, idra hated living in the really crowded team house environment, so im sure it will be a place (apartment) where they can have their own rooms, wich will be nice, but not conducive to practicing. Indeed, although I can't blame HuK for trying to make more money with Starcraft 2. However, I wonder if he will be able to keep his current shape while living in a new house with only two people to practise with. Without a coach or great new insights. Especially because Idra needs to do a lot in order to even reach the average level of the Korean Zerg players and we haven't seen a lot of PuMa in the Korean tournements. However, having a history of Flash's trainingspartner should give us some hope  Huk doesnt even have a protoss to talk over strats with, pretty hurt i think he could easily drop out of GSL without the proper training environment.
Guess we will wait and see if EG is planning for more people for the house, honestly though i doubt too many more as i doubt idra wants to live in a cramped apartment in korea full of gamers (he seemed to dislike that in the BW days and had his own place when he was in the gsl etc)
I could see how huk would prefer to have his own room etc. , but for the sake of practice, i dont think anyone can agree that this deal is going to make him a better player.
More money + less practice partners doesnt sound like a winning formula. Look at what happened to mvp after he won the GSL, i think the money got to him a bit and he slacked off/ practice less, thats just my oppinion of what happened though.
He seems focused again now though, but still it could happen to anyone
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EG needs to buy more Koreans if they want a good team in korea. PuMa, HuK and IdrA are just not enough to get really good. They should try to get NaNi/ThorZain to their house in Korea.
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Inside the game comes in 5h. Coincidence? I think not.
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travis is really mad that arguably THE best foreigner getting on a new team is hyped?
Is it because it's on this website? Is only TL allowed to hype stuff here, being a monopoly on the SC2 community viewership?
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EG in Korea is cool. I hope they bring more people over in the future. EG.Huk is not cool.
At some point EG ought to do something to try for some good press for once...
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I don't understand how EG have all this money.
It reminds me of Real Madrid and Chelsea just throwing money at everything.
I don't blame HuK for moving if Nazghul is saying it was a "life-changing" sum of money, but I still don't like EG's style of business - legitmate though it is.
They want to win an MLG or GSL as much as Abramovich wants to win the Champion's League, which is fine, but there are more honest and respectful ways to do it rather than just buying all th competition!
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Now I am really curious how much huk makes out of this new contract. I guess he makes as much as flash?
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OK, I think EG is going to steal 2 or 3 more great players before the year is done hopefully..Honestly the biggest news of all this is EG going to Korea
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Funny how delusional people are like they "know" things.
How does this mean HuK will get worse as a player?
Are some of you really that stupid to think he can't practice SC2 still, living in a different training house? It's called battle.net ... That's how you play SC2 with people, even when you're sitting right fucking next to them or in the same room. He switches teams and it means he can no longer play with anyone in Korea but IdrA and PuMa?
Get a fucking clue, and chill the fuck out fanboi's.
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On August 17 2011 02:48 Lamphead wrote: OK, I think EG is going to steal 2 or 3 more great players before the year is done hopefully..Honestly the biggest news of all this is EG going to Korea
Steal? Steal is when you take something when it isn't yours. Liquid "owned" Huk as a player for the time that he was signed. Since he isn't signed anymore EG didnt steal him.
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It's inevitable that Idra go back to Korea. His skills went down compared to when he was in Korea. Huk... I not sure how much use he made of the oGs house... did he just ladder the whole time? He got lured with big money and I can't blame him.
Due to the volatility of being a progamer I can understand it.
On August 17 2011 02:42 darkest44 wrote:EG, please poach thorzain, naniwa and another korean or two, send over demuslim if he wants to go. Hire someone like milkis who can speak english and korean as a manager and setup a real korean house then enter GSTL. You'll have tons of fans then  If its only puma, huk and idra training together, man that would be the most awkward house ever, I can't picture those 3 getting along that well especially since puma doesnt speak english. On the bright side, I could see a reality comedy sitcom deal if its just those 3 living together, awkwardness, nerd fights, korean not understanding anything, good times.
LOL "Three's Company"
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On August 17 2011 02:43 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:33 crappen wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Stealing? Both teams throw what they had at Huk, who really deserves this after what he have accomplished. Aren't you glad teams are stepping up and compete for the players? Its a pretty nice spot for the player I must say, to have such choices. I was atleast thrilles cause of this, really shocked, I never thought that Huk would join forces with EG. The 3 days hyping worked for me stealing is semantics. they bought him out. they used capabilities liquid couldn't match, it could be argued that's stealing - "taking by force". Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 farvacola wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Anyone else think that Team Liquid willingly allowed EG to hype up this exchange for the benefit of the scene in general? If anything, it makes TL look even more awesome, as they are willing to allow fellow foreigner teams to hype up player acquisitions and overall create buzz? And again, one "steals" property, Huk is not going nowhere against his will. willingly? what does that mean. if you are asking if nazgul was happy about them hyping up the taking of his star player then no. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 Logros wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Well it's also the announcement that IdrA is going back to Korea and that they're setting up a team house there. But I think noone expected a 600 page thread full of hype ><. I guess that's true but I think it's purposeful planning by EG so they can hype both at the same time, knowing that hyping just the taking of huk would be incredibly rude. Actually on second thought maybe that isn't purposeful planning because that still sounds like something EG would do. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 darmousseh wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? If liquid was signing idra, wouldn't they hype it for several days at least? Maybe if he was a free agent who was looking for a team. If liquid nabbed a member of another team by buying them out (like that would happen) - they would have some tact about how they announce it. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:35 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? No it's the signing of a new player. Should not matter which team he is on, plus they went about it the right way (contacting Naz). Can't see how that's scumbaggy. Plus they were also hyping that and IdrA back to Korea and the EG Korea house...... What does that mean? If they talked to naz it was just so they could buy out his contract, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how they announce it. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:36 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? How did they steal him? They literally did this the best way possible. It is EG I guess and people are always irrational in their hate when it comes to them. It's semantics. You've never heard "steal" used that way?
So Liquid stole Huk (as well as all their other players) when they signed him a year ago? And no I've never heard steal used in that way, that's retarded.
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EG.HuK doesn't have the same sound, but this most be a better opportunity for him. Good Luck HuK!
But i watched one of DJWheats talkshows, and i heard IdrA directly calling HuK stupid. How can they train together with this?
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On August 17 2011 02:43 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:33 crappen wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Stealing? Both teams throw what they had at Huk, who really deserves this after what he have accomplished. Aren't you glad teams are stepping up and compete for the players? Its a pretty nice spot for the player I must say, to have such choices. I was atleast thrilles cause of this, really shocked, I never thought that Huk would join forces with EG. The 3 days hyping worked for me stealing is semantics. they bought him out. they used capabilities liquid couldn't match, it could be argued that's stealing - "taking by force". Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 farvacola wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Anyone else think that Team Liquid willingly allowed EG to hype up this exchange for the benefit of the scene in general? If anything, it makes TL look even more awesome, as they are willing to allow fellow foreigner teams to hype up player acquisitions and overall create buzz? And again, one "steals" property, Huk is not going nowhere against his will. willingly? what does that mean. if you are asking if nazgul was happy about them hyping up the taking of his star player then no. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 Logros wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? Well it's also the announcement that IdrA is going back to Korea and that they're setting up a team house there. But I think noone expected a 600 page thread full of hype ><. I guess that's true but I think it's purposeful planning by EG so they can hype both at the same time, knowing that hyping just the taking of huk would be incredibly rude. Actually on second thought maybe that isn't purposeful planning because that still sounds like something EG would do. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:34 darmousseh wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? If liquid was signing idra, wouldn't they hype it for several days at least? Maybe if he was a free agent who was looking for a team. If liquid nabbed a member of another team by buying them out (like that would happen) - they would have some tact about how they announce it. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:35 iCCup.Diamond wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? No it's the signing of a new player. Should not matter which team he is on, plus they went about it the right way (contacting Naz). Can't see how that's scumbaggy. Plus they were also hyping that and IdrA back to Korea and the EG Korea house...... What does that mean? If they talked to naz it was just so they could buy out his contract, but I don't see how that has anything to do with how they announce it. Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 02:36 Ozcollo wrote:On August 17 2011 02:30 travis wrote: Anyone else think it's scumbaggy for EG to hype up stealing team liquid's player for 3 days? How did they steal him? They literally did this the best way possible. It is EG I guess and people are always irrational in their hate when it comes to them. It's semantics. You've never heard "steal" used that way?
No, by no definition of the word is this stealing.
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