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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 23:28:31
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#121
Why is Mr.Chae the SC2Con's mouthpiece here o_O?

I think GomTV has a seat there as an advisory role, but I thought sc2con would take care of something this big by themselves =o
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
lim1017
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1278 Posts
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#122
On August 12 2011 08:12 NASL.tv wrote:
Koreans such as Rain, PuMa, and Hero will still be participating as they are not bound to SC2Con decisions! We are still waiting for a decision from FXOsC


Those guys just got hard, its like a GSL level prize pool with only a few koreans
Redlol
Profile Joined June 2010
United States181 Posts
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#123
Stay classy NASL, and I mean that seriously. I look forward to SC2Con's response, and I'll withhold judgement until then, but at this point in time SC2Con just continues to make itself look bad. It's sad that NASL really was the "global" starcraft league already, especially with their season 2 rule changes to allow for play on the best server for a specific match.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#124
On August 12 2011 08:17 Mikilatov wrote:
Wait, how does this one organization speak for all Korean SC2 players? I understand there's a players organization, but can these players not do as they please? How is this any different from MLG or anything else?

This feels very Kespa-esque and unexpected, to me.


The idea I imagine was to collectively bargain so that the players who qualify for the finals are all given the chance to play without paying out of pocket to attend a tournament. Traveling from Korea is really expensive, especially for teams without sponsors or with very little money. Some could afford it while others couldn't. Whether or not we agree I think they had the interest of Korean players in mind, given the state that Korean SC2 is in (there are very few teams with significant money to throw around on 3-5k trips to the US)
Destro
Profile Joined September 2009
Netherlands1206 Posts
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#125
unfortunate, but NASL will still be strong and a great viewing experience. Good luck in the next season NASL!
bring back weapon of choice for hots!
ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
August 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#126
NASL the great last white refuge.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#127
Congratulations to Puma for winning NASL Season 2!
marcesr
Profile Joined June 2008
Germany1383 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#128
This is great news!!! I cant stand Koreans anymore!!
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#129
On August 12 2011 08:18 MorNin wrote:
So the west is supposed to bend over to Koreans??? wtf is this....


The Koreans just don't want to come, they don't have to if they don't like the tournament. They should have decided sooner though.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#130
This is such bull shit and its not even on NASL. I'm really disappointed in the Korean Committee. NASL is offering them a very, very good deal. A minimum of $2000 and you know most would be getting more than that.
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Coldviolet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States110 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#131
I don't think this is a matter of each side being stubborn and etc. I think the ulterior purpose is to take Koreans out of NASL, or at least reduce the number of them. We know that we want pure NA league. At this rate season2 would have more than half Koreans for the main tournament and season3 would be new GSL taken in America. It's hard to judge who's being an ass, just by reading the post from one side, but I doubt there would be this kind of business issue if there are just a small portion of Koreans participated.
Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned.
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#132
Despite the obvious implications of this which are really bad, I think its really really shitty for teams like coL and SK that have put money into gaining the services of the Korean players in foreigner tournaments and will now be seeing rather less return on their investment. It also seems odd to me that this was done through a commitee decision at all, i mean thats useful for the negotiations but cant each team make their own decision on the final offer made rather than all pull out. Although I guess I dont know that didnt happen.. just seems odd when some teams wouldnt have to worry about certain of their players at all like MC and Nada
iruel
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada75 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#133
how does this work for players like Nada, MC, DRG etc. being sc2con team members but also members of foreign teams? i hope they can still play. that is what those sponsorship deals were trying to accomplish in the fist place, bringing those key players to foreign events that the korean teams couldn't afford to send them too.
i like soup
godemperor
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium2043 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#134
SC2 con's member are basically the managers of the major team in korea right?
berserkboar
Profile Joined June 2011
114 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#135
stop hating on koreans yo
:(
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
August 11 2011 23:27 GMT
#136
The korean managers are all such divas.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
ribboo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1842 Posts
August 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#137
well, it does seem like NASL tried to do everything they could. If this is all there is to it, it's crazy bad from the koreans.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
August 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#138
Well, then seriously, fuck them. Sorry but what the hell do they think they are?
We don't need them, their not celebrities that we have to carter to and pleasing everything they want.
They have the chance to win 50'000$, that should be motivation enough to pay for the expenses.

wat
Pudge_172
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1378 Posts
August 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#139
If what is in the OP is correct and true, I say fuck the Koreans for asking for extreme special treatment. NASL sounds like they did everything they could financially do without killing their budget.

NASL will do just fine without them as long as they keep improving the broadcast.

I feel like this has more to do with the GSL/MLG exchange program than anything else.

Diablo 3 Blog Me & My Mom http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=336890
ExPresident
Profile Joined January 2010
United States215 Posts
August 11 2011 23:28 GMT
#140
Foreigners should enjoy the fact that they have a legitimate shot at an extremely large prize pool now. But the skill level will drop a bit.

Best of luck to the NASL.
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