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5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
August 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#161
That's why i hope the Koreans will stay closed on themselves, just like in SC1.
They are just too exotic to us to understand WTF do they want...
Let them play in their own playground, so we can have the REAL e-sports!
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
Fentanyal
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom15 Posts
August 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#162
On August 12 2011 08:10 nkwd wrote:
Sad news...is Sen still playing?


Sen is Taiwanese and on a foreign team, i don't see how this affects him...
Advice is what we ask for when we already know the answer but wish we didn't.
Bluerain
Profile Joined April 2010
United States348 Posts
August 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#163
On August 12 2011 08:17 Kireak wrote:
Its pretty clear that the money is not the problem here. Maybe playing at un-convinient hours and having a high latency are the real issues.


maybe NASL has stigma cus a foreigner team picked up a korean player during the event
Bartiemus
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand84 Posts
August 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#164
It seems Koreans are getting greedy it is a privilege not a right to compete in foreign events like the NASL and MLG give there spots to some hard working non Koreans instead.
Id rather just kill you and call it a day.
iruel
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada75 Posts
August 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#165
On August 12 2011 08:27 Coldviolet wrote:
I don't think this is a matter of each side being stubborn and etc. I think the ulterior purpose is to take Koreans out of NASL, or at least reduce the number of them. We know that we want pure NA league. At this rate season2 would have more than half Koreans for the main tournament and season3 would be new GSL taken in America. It's hard to judge who's being an ass, just by reading the post from one side, but I doubt there would be this kind of business issue if there are just a small portion of Koreans participated.


of course it would be less of an issue if there were less koreans entering. but if they have to pay for an entire tournament bracket of Korean players travel expenses that ads up pretty fast. i really doubt that it has anything to do with making it a pure NA league.
i like soup
deerpark87
Profile Joined January 2011
760 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#166
you know, until i read Mr. Chae's side of things, i will only believe half of what NASL say.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#167
OK so if they can't afford to travel to this event, how can SlayerS afford to travel to MLG?? I hope they show up to Ralleigh ):
AnonymousXV
Profile Joined May 2011
United States45 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#168
Lol big loss for the koreans
cupz21
Profile Joined September 2010
United States16 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#169
This sucks of course but still super excited to watch NASL. So many games last season was amazing and this one will be even better. Wonder if NaDa and MC can still play with their SK Gaming deal.
iiGreetings
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada563 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#170
Dang thats brutal.
Adapt and React I MKP, PartinG, EffOrt ♥
masterbreti
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Korea (South)2711 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#171
tbh good for the Koreans for sticking to their guns.

Has anyone here auctally tried to caculate the cost of a 1 week trip to cali from seoul and back. its damn expensive. Being almost 3k with hotel and airfare and such. For the chance at $500, which would still lose them $500 if NASL paid 2k.

I can understand why the teams would do this tbh. They are not in a healthy state in Korea and of course they would want people to pay, since they can't temselves.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#172
I have a question, is there any foreign tournament that DOES pay 100% of travel accomodations (lodging, food ect)?
sevia
Profile Joined May 2010
United States954 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#173
$1000 for travel and a minimum of $1000 prize, and the Korean teams still decline? I have a feeling that either there's another side to this story, or the teams are declining for reasons other than expense.

I was hoping that NASL would improve each season, but even though this specific factor is out of their control, it's not worth watching for me anymore.
최지성 Bomber || 김동환 viOLet || 고병재 GuMiho
Heraklitus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States553 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#174
This is so not cool. I'd be curious to hear more of their side of it, but to agree to the terms of the tournament, and then to make demands at the last minute is borderline extortion.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#175
they will just wait for the open bracket to compete and skip the league altogether
The Show of a Lifetime
Diglett
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
600 Posts
August 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#176
why did the sc2kespa decide for all the teams? shouldn't individual players decide? or maybe i am reading this wrong.
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
August 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#177
Bit odd that a big business rival to the NASL handles all negotiations between teams and the NASL. Seems suspicious to me.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
August 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#178
For me, NASL just got a lot more interesting.

Koreans would have dominated season 2 so hard, it wouldn't have been even funny.
radiumz0rz
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States253 Posts
August 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#179
I really want Koreans to participate. I'm happy that we get a couple to participate but I wonder what FXO is going to do! In my eyes, there's about a 50% chance that FXO will participate depending if they are binding to SC2Con or not.
Berkeley '10
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
August 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#180
NASL, can you please explain why you couldn't take the requested travel costs out of the prize pool?
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
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