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Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
August 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#981
NASL make it sounds like all Koreans did was threaten NASL(when it was necessary for them to have that sort of money to even get an air plane ticket, which is normally over $1000) to pay them and declined after third trial? well did you know GTSL happens every month almost none stop? Why is NASL make it sound like its all Koreans need to apologize and should always come to USA whenever they call them. Koreans arent slaves. Perhaps NASL shouldve made better offer from the beganning not trying to test Koreans to see if they accept it or not. This is not Korean players but rather NASL's fault.
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MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#982
On August 12 2011 10:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
honestly, screw the teams. use a MLG exchange type program. you bring over 2-5 good koreans and you will get just as much views as if there were 5-6 teams of koreans. given the trend in tournaments, those 2-5 good koreans will make it to the end anyways and your viewership will soar. you can easily increase the stipend on a few players to make up for the alleged financial issues.

i still feel this is unfair to players in europe, asia, etc. I hope you will do the same for people like Sen and White-Ra because in my mind they are worth ten koreans as far as entertainment value.


I think the same rule once applied to Koreans, applies to all who can make it to the grand finals, so White-Ra, Sen and what not will still get these benefits should they manage to make it to Grand Finals.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 01:26:44
August 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#983
On August 12 2011 10:19 NicolBolas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 10:16 Talin wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:11 Sandro wrote:
On August 12 2011 10:08 Condor Hero wrote:
On August 12 2011 09:11 hdan wrote:
Im quite happy that the koreans have pulled out, if they cant afford to send theyre players to a tournments with prize pools that big so be it, some money in foreigner pockets is okay by me, besides, puma hero rain and the FXO guys will probably be up there if they can take the places.

You're not at all concerned that we are essentially getting a worse product?

Not if Western tournaments are made into Korean piggy banks, I don't see teams like Dignitas or EG demanding upwards of 2k for stipends to travel.


Really?

There were plenty of calls (demands, if you will) to make Code A more accessible to foreign players because it apparently isn't appealing enough as it is. And GOM has actually responded to that by partnering with MLG and handing out invites to pretty much every notable foreigner that shows up in Korea regardless of the exchange program. Considering how brutally hard the qualifiers are, that's quite a reward in itself.

Of course, not everybody can make the same demands - there's much more weight to the demands of teams that have the best players in the world than the teams whose players mostly get rolled over every single MLG.


Asking for invitations to Code A is rather different from asking for money.


No, it really isn't.

Without a Code A invitation you could be locked into playing qualifiers for months (think about Bomber, DRG, MMA) before making it in. GOM has essentially cut off up to 2-3 months of expenses for foreign players by handing out Code A invites. Let's not forget that they also provide accommodation and even a direct Code S spot for MLG winner.

If you think invites are so cheap, then why not suggest that NASL invites up to 8 Koreans directly to the Top 16 live event? That might just be more appealing to sc2con teams.

Besides, the complaint about Code A was specifically that "it's not worth it financially". So nobody asked for invites, it was GOM who came up with that themselves.
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
August 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#984
Seems like a really bad move by the Korean teams. NASL would be extra exposure for the teams and players and actually winning the whole thing would be huge for whichever Korean won.
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die.terran
Profile Joined April 2010
United States18 Posts
August 12 2011 01:25 GMT
#985
well atleast now a korean wont win
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
August 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#986
well that does sux
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FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
August 12 2011 01:26 GMT
#987
Ah, well that sucks. I was planning on watching NASL 2. Ah well.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#988
On August 12 2011 10:24 Rorschach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 10:18 silentrealm wrote:
Terrible terrible terrible....
Oh wait...who cares?
This tournament is the North American Starleague. It was never about the Koreans, it was about a foreigner tournament becoming as prominent as the GSL
It can still do that despite the stubbornness of the Korean teams.



Wake up call, a lot of people care....
This is a hard hit to the NASL. Asking for special treatment is not all that cool but at the same time when "your" players offer the highest lvl of play and this is the entertainment industry your really at their mercy......

Or you take a stand like NASL has and good for them.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#989
On August 12 2011 10:25 die.terran wrote:
well atleast now a korean wont win


i predict in ten to fifteen more pages of posts, someone will argue that NASL did this on purpose to make it so idra can win a tournament due to his association with EG and incontrol. calling it now. conspiracy theory ftw.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
August 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#990
On August 12 2011 10:25 die.terran wrote:
well atleast now a korean wont win

Nah, the koreans on foreign teams will just win.
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00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
August 12 2011 01:27 GMT
#991
Maybe they should only make an 8-player-final and then do some groupplay to get some games to show and not pay this expensive trip for maybe just one match.
With 8 players NASL should be able to pay all travel expenses.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 01:29:08
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#992
On August 12 2011 10:25 die.terran wrote:
well atleast now a korean wont win


Between Puma, HerO and Rain I'm pretty sure one will.

Especially if Nani, HuK and Thorzain don't play.

On August 12 2011 10:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 10:25 die.terran wrote:
well atleast now a korean wont win


i predict in ten to fifteen more pages of posts, someone will argue that NASL did this on purpose to make it so idra can win a tournament due to his association with EG and incontrol. calling it now. conspiracy theory ftw.


Nah, that's what IPL is for.
BuddhaMonk
Profile Joined August 2010
781 Posts
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#993
I would just like to remind everyone that we've basically only heard one side of the story here. People are always quick to jump to conclusions, but it often turns out that things aren't always what they seem.

One thing for sure is that travel is very expensive, and traveling from Korea is more expensive than from Europe or anywhere in North America.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#994
Ill still pay and watch. Some of you guys act like the foreigners are not entertaining but they are.
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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#995
I'd like to know what Col_Catz has to say about this
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#996
On August 12 2011 10:25 MildSeven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 10:21 dAPhREAk wrote:
honestly, screw the teams. use a MLG exchange type program. you bring over 2-5 good koreans and you will get just as much views as if there were 5-6 teams of koreans. given the trend in tournaments, those 2-5 good koreans will make it to the end anyways and your viewership will soar. you can easily increase the stipend on a few players to make up for the alleged financial issues.

i still feel this is unfair to players in europe, asia, etc. I hope you will do the same for people like Sen and White-Ra because in my mind they are worth ten koreans as far as entertainment value.


I think the same rule once applied to Koreans, applies to all who can make it to the grand finals, so White-Ra, Sen and what not will still get these benefits should they manage to make it to Grand Finals.


i am talking about the increased benefits and concessions NASL was making for koreans. it seems that now they are unionized they are getting concessions not offered to others.
peidongyang
Profile Joined January 2009
Canada2084 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 01:29:10
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#997
what a joke, now i actually respect puma's decision to join eg. this is like kespa2
the throws never bothered me anyway
MildSeven
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada311 Posts
August 12 2011 01:28 GMT
#998
On August 12 2011 10:25 Haustka wrote:
NASL make it sounds like all Koreans did was threaten NASL(when it was necessary for them to have that sort of money to even get an air plane ticket, which is normally over $1000) to pay them and declined after third trial? well did you know GTSL happens every month almost none stop? Why is NASL make it sound like its all Koreans need to apologize and should always come to USA whenever they call them. Koreans arent slaves. Perhaps NASL shouldve made better offer from the beganning not trying to test Koreans to see if they accept it or not. This is not Korean players but rather NASL's fault.


I absolutely agree with you.

The tone of this post from NASL seems very arrogant. NASL clearly wants to stigmitize the Koreans, isolate and decrease their relevance since NASL can't actually get them there. By stirring anti-Korean sentiments, by antagnozing them, viewers will feel "nationalistic" (consider all foreign countries as a nation in this case) and watch the NASL solely out of spite for the Koreans and sympathize for NASL.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 12 2011 01:29 GMT
#999
i really like nasl's stance on this, it's not their fault. they agreed to a lot of their demands but unfortunately it seems that korea just isn't stable enough. it's weird because korea has great gamers but low stability, it's usually high level of play = great stability.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
August 12 2011 01:29 GMT
#1000
On August 12 2011 10:25 Haustka wrote:
NASL make it sounds like all Koreans did was threaten NASL(when it was necessary for them to have that sort of money to even get an air plane ticket, which is normally over $1000) to pay them and declined after third trial? well did you know GTSL happens every month almost none stop? Why is NASL make it sound like its all Koreans need to apologize and should always come to USA whenever they call them. Koreans arent slaves. Perhaps NASL shouldve made better offer from the beganning not trying to test Koreans to see if they accept it or not. This is not Korean players but rather NASL's fault.

LOL you serious?

Yeah hey we will give you a $1000 in travel money and you will walk away with at least another $1000. Yeah NASL is treating them like slaves. They are treating them like everyone else. You think it was cheap for White Ra or Sen to fly into the finals?
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