Aw well I like MLG and Dreamhack. I think it's great that both are successful. I don't even see the two as being in competition, really. Seems like the more attention generated towards SC2 and "eSports" (gah, hate using the word) in general helps everybody involved. Hell, partners could potentially sponsor both events, right?

Anyway, that said, I'm kinda bummed to see that apparently there's an admin or some type of guy directly involved with Dreamhack that takes it upon himself to belittle MLG. Sort of unprofessional/childish IMO. Good to see that MLG responds to it professionally and doesn't stoop to the level of that guy. I expect to see both organizations grow!

Sumwar

Canada199 Posts

August 06 2011 01:15 GMT

#185

well if my math is correct 2.6 million hours with over 3 hours average watched per user means around 865K unique viewers which is way higher than 450K(last event). So yea, go MLG man esports getting real big fuck yea.

Duravi

United States1205 Posts

August 06 2011 01:18 GMT

#186

MLG has been getting huge because Sundance made a decision to make a big investment in production and staff after Dallas. This is the result, he took a risk and will hopefully be reaping the rewards for a long time to come. Other tournaments like NASL should take notice.

ReturnStroke

United States801 Posts

August 06 2011 01:23 GMT

#187

MLG has had problems with West Coast in the past. Great job MLG and West Coast residents making a great event.

iky43210

United States2099 Posts

August 07 2011 04:22 GMT

#188

so will we ever get the numbers on the unique viewers and highest concurrent viewers?

I really want to know

diddLY

United States215 Posts

August 07 2011 04:44 GMT

#189

What were the pre-SC2 numbers? lol

Nemireck

Canada1875 Posts

August 07 2011 04:56 GMT

#190

On August 06 2011 10:15 Sumwar wrote:
well if my math is correct 2.6 million hours with over 3 hours average watched per user means around 865K unique viewers which is way higher than 450K(last event). So yea, go MLG man esports getting real big fuck yea.

Those viewers aren't necessarily unique. For instance, I watched MLG in 2 hour segments for most of the weekend, for a total of somewhere in the range of 16 views from Friday-Sunday. So I'm one unique viewer, that accounts for at least 16 'views', and that doesn't account for all the times I switched streams, and had to re-load because of their request for me to drop my ad-block even though I have a gold pass :p

Scrandom

Canada2819 Posts

August 07 2011 05:01 GMT

#191

On August 05 2011 03:55 Hellspawnl wrote:
Using 35 million started streams is just a bullshit number to promote. Number of times a stream got loaded means nothing at all.

35 million streams started, 2,6 million of hours streamed means that EACH stream in average went on for 4,5 minutes, maybe not such a great number, I don't say it's bad either.

What counts is Unique Viewers and average viewing time and Sundance responded to my tweet and said they will present that too when they got those numbers.

Yes, I'm biased as I ran the SC2 Tours at DreamHack but compare this presentation with the DreamHacks

Why can't people like you just be happy?

NightAngel

United States144 Posts

August 09 2011 12:05 GMT

#192

On August 05 2011 07:05 Hellspawnl wrote:Remember that most people just read the topic which actually is even more true when it comes to "suits" in big cooperation. So where would you put your money? In an 35 million event or in an "over 2 million" event? If you don't get that or don't understand the difference and the very bad communications method MLG uses then there ain't much I can do.

Does anyone know how many times EVO mentioned that viewers should tune into MLG?

SundanceMLG

33 Posts

August 09 2011 12:24 GMT

#193

On August 05 2011 07:05 Hellspawnl wrote:
I don't like being involved in forum wars but I reply to the accusation of me being unprofessional, biased and wanting to start a war between MLG and DreamHack.

I am first and for most an "E-sport journalist" who's actually doesn't just take what people, organizations or tournament organizers say for granted, I try to have an objective and critical approach as I know from my knowledge of the scene that it's needed.

First off let me say that no other journalist asked for clarification by accusing me on twitter of releasing "bullshit numbers". I did a follow up interview with Forbes yesterday and was asked for a break down of the numbers so that the reporter could better understand the context. He was both objective and critical. You just seem to be critical when it comes to this topic. Still don't have an issue with you but if you have questions for me you should reach out formally and I'll answer them formally.

Our number currently stands at 940,583 uniques without factoring in one of our distribution partners. Hopefully we get their numbers today. This math stuff is hard sometimes when you don't have a unified set of reporting tools.

As far as the 35 million streams number goes - We release a set of numbers that is ready following the events to capitalize on mainstream media awareness of our efforts. No deception - no lies just a set of data that is provided by our streaming and distribution partners. The takeaway for MLG Anaheim is this - with a schedule which was awful for European viewers and our most stable stream yet - our numbers rose significantly.

This is a good thing. Let's be happy and hope that everyone's views keep going up and that everyone's partners, fans and players continue to be happy.

Also - prize pool can't go up until next year. That comes down from on high so unless a miracle happens it is what it is until 2012.

Finally live event attendance is attendees per day added up.

Have a nice day.

-sd