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On August 10 2011 05:41 Pr0spect wrote:
I find releasing those misleading numbers (yes they are misleading, there's no way to deny that) disgusting and I understand that the majority here is from America and I understand the need to defend MLG since it's "your" event, though without Hellspawn we wouldn't have known MLG just had 940.000~ unique but I doubt they'll put that on a press release.
At least I'm thankful for Hellspawn for giving corruption in the eSport scene some light.
Hmm Pr0spect Sweden. I'm sure it's a coincidence that Dreamhack was in Sweden too. No bias at all.
Stop this nationalistic BS, Dreamhack and MLG aren't competitors. Both are amazing events with amazing fans. No need to try to tear one down to make the other one look better.
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On August 10 2011 06:09 thebigdonkey wrote:Show nested quote +On August 10 2011 05:41 Pr0spect wrote:
I find releasing those misleading numbers (yes they are misleading, there's no way to deny that) disgusting and I understand that the majority here is from America and I understand the need to defend MLG since it's "your" event, though without Hellspawn we wouldn't have known MLG just had 940.000~ unique but I doubt they'll put that on a press release.
At least I'm thankful for Hellspawn for giving corruption in the eSport scene some light. Hmm Pr0spect Sweden. I'm sure it's a coincidence that Dreamhack was in Sweden too. No bias at all. Stop this nationalistic BS, Dreamhack and MLG aren't competitors. Both are amazing events with amazing fans. No need to try to tear one down to make the other one look better.
Not so much nationalism as it is Jante Law
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On August 10 2011 05:41 Pr0spect wrote:
I find releasing those misleading numbers (yes they are misleading, there's no way to deny that) disgusting and I understand that the majority here is from America and I understand the need to defend MLG since it's "your" event, though without Hellspawn we wouldn't have known MLG just had 940.000~ unique but I doubt they'll put that on a press release.
At least I'm thankful for Hellspawn for giving corruption in the eSport scene some light. ]
This is some of the dumbest fucking shit I have read all day. Conspiracy and corruption... What the fuck is it with this Us vs Them mentality in eSports? It's fucking stupid. Stop it!
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On August 10 2011 05:41 Pr0spect wrote:
I find releasing those misleading numbers (yes they are misleading, there's no way to deny that) disgusting and I understand that the majority here is from America and I understand the need to defend MLG since it's "your" event, though without Hellspawn we wouldn't have known MLG just had 940.000~ unique but I doubt they'll put that on a press release.
At least I'm thankful for Hellspawn for giving corruption in the eSport scene some light.
Hellspawn doesn't know what he is talking about and neither do you. What MLG did is the standard when it comes to advertising in every medium including things like billboards. I have worked in media research for every medium you can imagine and what MLG did with the 35 million stat is what NBC would do, what Forbes would do and what TNT would do.
Sometimes you have to blow up one stat to attract the advertiser or client. Instead of ignoring the one sheet or mailer they will actually pay attention and want to know more. Advertising can be misleading but that is the nature of the business. Next time read the footnote when you see "3 out of 4 doctors recommend Colgate".
It is actually sad you guys had to come in and rain on this parade like bitter people. It is disgusting to watch. And I really hope Hellzspawn is not representing Dreamhack.
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I just found amazing that people like sundance, who runs an enterpirse with unimaginable numbers for the normal people takes his time to respond to criticism in a mannered way, and when it comes to bullshit, he keeps his cool and unleash the numbers with explanations.
Don't remember anyone doing this. Altough im from EU, Sundance is doing not only a great job, but his approach with the people, talking about themes that his not obligated in any way to share its incredible.
Dont understand why this bullshit discussion after almost any MLG event. Me, as european, im soooooo glad and happy when it comes to the weekend, after a tiring week and to see the world's greatest players on MLG, Dreamhack, TL SL, IPL and other tourneys that i dont remember but i enjoy like a teenager.
People making stupid inquiries about who has the bigger dick needs to be cast aside. Not helping anyone and leave a shitty feeling to normal people who only wants to see the best of the best on important events.
Sorry for my poor english, hope my opinion was understandable.Regards
And I really hope Hellzspawn is not representing Dreamhack.
I hope that too.
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Nice to see almost 1M unique viewers. But why the hell do u want to release the number the stream has started? Makes no sense.
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People should not get mad about the numbers, its just good business yes, its the uniques that actually matter. But if you want news on your event you get the biggest number you have out there. it would be silly to do different. The numbers are not misleading at all, as we all know what a view compared to a unique is. so how can it be misleading. the thing about numbers are they are fact(or you just being lied to ) there not misleading at all. its a great number of people watching , go mlg :D
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Seriously what's the problem with stream started number if it's released with other numbers as well? Even in OP it was stated how many viewing hours were there.
ofc unique visitors is most relevant information but we also got that info so where's the problem if they are not hiding anything?
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On August 11 2011 05:42 eqez wrote:
Nice to see almost 1M unique viewers. But why the hell do u want to release the number the stream has started? Makes no sense.
Because that number was primarily targeted advertisers, that at the end of the day, doesn't care about uniques.
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Just to remind everyone - the number of uniques wasn't immediately available after the event. Because MLG partners with a distribution company (IMG), they don't know exactly what their viewership is for all the distribution partners right away.
Also, bottom line, nearly a million viewers is INSANE! This is a really positive thing no matter how you look at it.
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Does anyone know how many was the most amount of viewers at a single time?
I know we got 87k on MC vs Idra round 2 in columbus, but does anyone know if we surpassed 100k at any time yet?
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thanks for the update Sundance! I didn't imagine anaheim would have that many unique viewers.
@popcorn they mention they surpassed 100k on Saturday already. Should be bigger on Sunday
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