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Crying
Bulgaria778 Posts
I recently came across that question,discussed alot with friends and concluded that mass gaming is a good way to improve yourself fast and effectively. Do you mass game? What do you think about mass gaming when u are kinda tilting? Is it good to masspractice or like some pro's choose who to play and who to not ( customs )? Do you think that is the best thing you can do to improve? | ||
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AcesAnoka
Belgium262 Posts
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Denzil
United Kingdom4193 Posts
If you're bronze - low / mid masters I'd guess mass game as that acquired game sense is what's going to tell you if you're getting cheesed or when a push is coming or when the best time to expand is. If you're pushing high masters / GM I'd guess you want to scrape those extra 5 - 10 minerals in the early game and then have your upgrades on time and push when you want to push so refinement is what is needed. | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
blacken out 'en mass or deliver high qualitity by considering twice after some games. I prefer the second one. cheers. | ||
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BushidoSnipr
United States910 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
Mass games let you acquire reflexes and rapid thought process, train your fingers, and train your general gameplay. | ||
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lunchforthesky
United Kingdom967 Posts
On August 02 2011 09:14 Denzil wrote: It's quite interesting, the idea of quality v quantity. By doing quantity you get game sense and trends on ladder. By doing quality you get refinement of builds and specialized responses and builds. I guess it depends on where you're at in your "quest" to become a gamer. If you're bronze - low / mid masters I'd guess mass game as that acquired game sense is what's going to tell you if you're getting cheesed or when a push is coming or when the best time to expand is. If you're pushing high masters / GM I'd guess you want to scrape those extra 5 - 10 minerals in the early game and then have your upgrades on time and push when you want to push so refinement is what is needed. I think that in Bronze/low silver you would benefit more from watching dailys/a few specific vods BEFORE you mass games. Mass gaming is great but not if you don't even know builds/basic strategy. | ||
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Philosophy
186 Posts
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Kiangani
United States122 Posts
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ronpaul012
United States769 Posts
More than anything though it just depends on how you are as a gamer. If you learn by doing, mass games, but if you learn by watching/listening, then streams and replays are the best. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On August 02 2011 09:51 Philosophy wrote: Koreans prove quite well that there is no real alternative to mass gaming. Their "mass gaming" Includes quality due to high lvl of players, and normally repetitively playing the same teammates over and over etc. (when not laddering) | ||
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Striker.superfreunde
Germany1120 Posts
I wouldn't maintain that koreans are mass gaming. I guess they practise well thought-out and with a lot of discipline. Probably there consists a huge different between casual mass gaming and korean mass gaming | ||
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Arcanewinds
United Kingdom197 Posts
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Percutio
United States1672 Posts
That said, low level players need to take a few breaks every once in a while to learn what they need to be improving specifically (IE smashing games out can hurt if you start practicing the wrong things). Still, as long as you are at least improving mechanically it helps. The more solid someone's mechanics get the less they need to mass games and the more they can work on quality/strategy and the other aspects of game play that help someone improve. | ||
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kardinal
Sweden154 Posts
You need to mass game quality games to improve at all. Just dicking around playing either ladder or friends over and over without thought to why you win or lose won't let you improve fast at all. Likewise the opposite, super analyzing every aspect of one single game you play every few days won't let you improve fast at all either. You need both. | ||
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rizla123
Ireland28 Posts
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
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CameronJ
United States57 Posts
If you're just starting out? Mass games | ||
Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
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Etarberec
9 Posts
Simply watching 4GateRobo builds on Day9 and Husky actually allowed me to replicate the build accordingly, with various room for timing windows on the 2nd-4th Gateways accordingly dependent on my opponent's base when scouted. I also had to watch Mothership Rush a few times before I dared mimic LiquidHuK's sheer genious, and of course experiment with it. Never got to watch Zarchon build, though. I did practice it for the 1v2 Outmatched Hard Achievement. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
I'm sorry but what do you expect the answer to be? "No. You don't have to practice to be better! Repetition is pointless." I think it's VERY (read: painfully) OBVIOUS that if you do something a lot of times you'll get better at it. | ||
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Hossinaut
United States453 Posts
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Mvz
206 Posts
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
It can be hard to play game after game when you're tilted. But if you keep queueing eventually you will balance out. | ||
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Herculix
United States946 Posts
once you reach that point, you still have to play a good amount, but it's mostly about staying sharp, staying up to date, and improving the small things. | ||
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Shadrak
United States490 Posts
1. Read build guides, tutorials 2. Mass game 3. Go back to step 1 | ||
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StatX
Canada343 Posts
Mass games allow you to instinctively recognize build orders, improve your macro play and overall game efficiency in a general sense. Whareas a specific game match will help you better a single area, be it a matchup (PvP, TvZ...) or perfect a build order. But mass gaming should defenitely come first to iron out the mechanics and general game sense. | ||
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Narcind
Sweden2489 Posts
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tuho12345
4482 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
On August 02 2011 10:42 tuho12345 wrote: My motorcycle rider teacher said:"Your grandma is the best driver in the world!" Is that true that she has driven for more than your entire life make she the best driver? No. If you don't learn from your mistake, you won't improve, you will crash the same bumper and fail every single. That said, a newborn infant can't do much stunts either. | ||
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userstupidname
Sweden272 Posts
You think of a lot of stuff when you aren't playing yourself. Also when a certain problem comes up I try to find replays of pro players dealing with it. | ||
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Crying
Bulgaria778 Posts
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
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Philosophy
186 Posts
On August 02 2011 18:16 Crying wrote: But guys when u massgame you tend to loose alot too,and i dunno if its a bug this season but i loose and still get opponents that are on a very nice level and thus making me go Negative stats? And you should be happy about it since it helps you improve. Ladder stats mean nothing anyways. Also, your MMR will not really get affected by winning/losing-streaks, so it'll take a bit until you get opponents your level. | ||
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Tegin
United States840 Posts
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