EPTTeam EG announce Training House - Page 41
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
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jexxto
United Kingdom284 Posts
On August 03 2011 21:31 akalarry wrote: if they really want to compete with the best (which i dont think they do), then they should pick up some people with real talent and drive. from what i see, absolutely none of the players have the drive. I kinda agree. I don't see any of the EG players (perhaps except Puma) saying they want to become the best or put in the hard work to get to the top. They seem content with hitting the gym and doing fairly casual practise hours, winning smaller tournaments vs a lower class of players and making money off their image and status as opposed to their skill and gameplay. Literally the only player on EG I can see as winning big tournies that has alot of top tier players is Puma, and by all accounts he's not even living at the house. The only other prospect for EG realisticly is IdrA, and he's pretty much made it clear he has no intention of practising more than 4 hours a day, which going by his recent performances isn't enough to win a tourney with top koreans in it. Until a foreigner team puts in the work and practises like the koreans do they will never consistanly match or better the korean teams. I mean look at FXO, they are already improving rapidly in such a short time. | ||
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elhonko
Sweden33 Posts
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RMmanlots
United States95 Posts
1) I always thought that inner city apartments were the best atmosphere for gamers. Life is fast-paced and cheap. Suburbs are too sleepy. Too...self important. 2) Why Arizona? Who wants to practice while there's a beautiful cloudless sky outside? I would have gone with Portland or Chicago. Cold weather builds character and work ethic. 3) Girls in the house (particularly attractive ones) = bad news bears for focus. Some pro-teams do not even allows girlfriends period, and when a player slumps, a gf is the first expected reason. Also...if she dates one of the players...that opens up avenues for jealousy and pettiness. I'm entering my bet right now that the team has trouble concentrating for the long 8 hour training days. | ||
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Chargelot
2275 Posts
On August 03 2011 22:30 RMmanlots wrote: Three problems from the point of view of EG management: 1) I always thought that inner city apartments were the best atmosphere for gamers. Life is fast-paced and cheap. Suburbs are too sleepy. Too...self important. 2) Why Arizona? Who wants to practice while there's a beautiful cloudless sky outside? I would have gone with Portland or Chicago. Cold weather builds character and work ethic. 3) Girls in the house (particularly attractive ones) = bad news bears for focus. Some pro-teams do not even allows girlfriends period, and when a player slumps, a gf is the first expected reason. I'm entering my bet right now that the team has trouble concentrating for the long 8 hour training days. 1) I always thought that inner city apartments were the best atmosphere for gamers. Life is fast-paced and cheap. Suburbs are too sleepy. Too...self important. Inner city apartments capable of holding the entirety of team EG would be so expensive that buying this house twice would be a better investment over the next year. I'm sure the self-important suburbs won't have much effect on the team. I am 100% sure no one in EG will care if the neighbors lawn looks better. Just because the Koreans live 10 guys to a bed...... 2) Why Arizona? Who wants to practice while there's a beautiful cloudless sky outside? I would have gone with Portland or Chicago. Cold weather builds character and work ethic. Arizona is cheap. Cold weather builds snows. That's about it. Some people don't like the cold. Some people would rather stay in bed, under a nice warm blanket when its cold. The cold can destroy work ethic. 3) Girls in the house (particularly attractive ones) = bad news bears for focus. Some pro-teams do not even allows girlfriends period, and when a player slumps, a gf is the first expected reason Other pro-teams recognize that their players are human beings, and that StarCraft != life, and in fact, life >>> StarCraft. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
It's very cheap to find a place in Arizona, so now is the perfect time to buy. I have a home away from home in Scottsdale and it gets uncanny hot. Places in Seoul have a higher demand (ridiculously big city with an insane populace), hence its expensive to live there. In the end, it comes down to the Western way (more luxury for next to nothing nowadays) versus shoulder-to-shoulder room in Seoul for stupid prices. Foreigners like their space and this place should provide plenty of it. Just change the player's philosophy and get them a proper coach. | ||
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DeadEyE X
United States23 Posts
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Simple
United States801 Posts
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Farkinator
United States283 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 03 2011 22:30 RMmanlots wrote: Three problems from the point of view of EG management: 1) I always thought that inner city apartments were the best atmosphere for gamers. Life is fast-paced and cheap. Suburbs are too sleepy. Too...self important. 2) Why Arizona? Who wants to practice while there's a beautiful cloudless sky outside? I would have gone with Portland or Chicago. Cold weather builds character and work ethic. 3) Girls in the house (particularly attractive ones) = bad news bears for focus. Some pro-teams do not even allows girlfriends period, and when a player slumps, a gf is the first expected reason. Also...if she dates one of the players...that opens up avenues for jealousy and pettiness. I'm entering my bet right now that the team has trouble concentrating for the long 8 hour training days. I am struck stupid by this post. So you want the EG to place the players in a small apartment in the city, filled with smog and stop any contract with women? And this will somehow make them better at the game? Lets go one step further. Put the training house in a area where no-one for 200 miles speaks english, so assure they arnt talking with people who dont play starcraft all the time. Ration their contact with their families and friends based on ladder and tourney results. Also, any other hobbies should be ended right away. Any relationships they are in should be subject to termination if it affects tourney results. We don't want these players to be "too self important". Also, these are grown men, not 14 year old boys. In the real world, we work with women all the time. Some of them are attractive and somehow we manage to get things done. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
Doesnt SirScoots live in AZ? This could be another reason why. | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
On August 03 2011 21:42 jexxto wrote: I kinda agree. I don't see any of the EG players (perhaps except Puma) saying they want to become the best or put in the hard work to get to the top. They seem content with hitting the gym and doing fairly casual practise hours, winning smaller tournaments vs a lower class of players and making money off their image and status as opposed to their skill and gameplay. Literally the only player on EG I can see as winning big tournies that has alot of top tier players is Puma, and by all accounts he's not even living at the house. The only other prospect for EG realisticly is IdrA, and he's pretty much made it clear he has no intention of practising more than 4 hours a day, which going by his recent performances isn't enough to win a tourney with top koreans in it. Until a foreigner team puts in the work and practises like the koreans do they will never consistanly match or better the korean teams. I mean look at FXO, they are already improving rapidly in such a short time. I agree entirely. If you want to motivate IdrA, you last thing you want to do is toss him in a house full of other people with the same image/status/money-making mindset. This move might be great for Greg but not so much for Idra, if you get what I mean. If EG really wants to utilize this free housing/living expenses they are giving away, they should recruit a bunch of motivated players. Surround IdrA with a bunch of practice demons and hopefully his fire will be re-lit. EG already has already shown they are not worried about stepping on other people's toes. If I were in charge I would use this bad-rep to the fullest extent. Hire sAviOr as a coach. He's shunned from any coaching job in Korea, but undeniably gifted at it. With this signing, create a pure-Korean lineup so that no translator is required. Bully other teams around with money and steal their most promising players. Can you say DongRaeGu+sAviOr? Puma covers T. As for P, steal Oz or some of those protosses from NSHoSeo. I wouldn't say this is impossible. Dismiss the entire EG roster for extra bribing cash. | ||
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SirKibbleX
United States479 Posts
On August 03 2011 20:57 WizShaw wrote: The laws of evolution, neural adaption rate based on the mass and quasi random numbers. Korea isnt just better at starcraft, they are better at just about everything. Because the general consensus is to actually try. And thats what it comes down too. You want to give the foreign scene a chance? Call me when they ether decide to: 1. When they all decide to become organized, form houses and practice as a unit, sharing information allowing the best to come out on top. 2. Move to Korea to practice and bring back what they learned to apply it here. Thats the only way the foreign scene has a chance. Way to try and sound smart. "Adaption" isn't even a real word. Is South Korea better about workers' rights than the US? How about per capita income? Winning the Korean War? South Korea is not "better than the whole world at everything." Their teams train harder and have more organization and better support from sponsors. They have exceptional internet and a gaming culture backing them up. And by the logic that more practice strictly equals better play, how is it that players like Flash and Stats can beat players like Boxer and Nada who have been playing hardcore Starcraft for nearly twice as long? There is more to the game than simply the amount of time you commit. I don't expect the foreign scene to catch up and pass the Koreans, but maybe we could make the competition much tighter. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On August 04 2011 03:21 SirKibbleX wrote: Way to try and sound smart. "Adaption" isn't even a real word. Is South Korea better about workers' rights than the US? How about per capita income? Winning the Korean War? South Korea is not "better than the whole world at everything." Their teams train harder and have more organization and better support from sponsors. They have exceptional internet and a gaming culture backing them up. And by the logic that more practice strictly equals better play, how is it that players like Flash and Stats can beat players like Boxer and Nada who have been playing hardcore Starcraft for nearly twice as long? There is more to the game than simply the amount of time you commit. I don't expect the foreign scene to catch up and pass the Koreans, but maybe we could make the competition much tighter. The korean teams don't have better support from sponsors. You can argue about the culture and everything else, and it's all debatable. But it's a fact that the money is on the West, and korean teams have a much harder time financially. There is a reason most players there aren't even paid. | ||
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Triscuit
United States722 Posts
On August 03 2011 21:42 jexxto wrote: The only other prospect for EG realisticly is IdrA, and he's pretty much made it clear he has no intention of practising more than 4 hours a day, which going by his recent performances isn't enough to win a tourney with top koreans in it. Do you have any actual information to back this up? If he has no intention of practicing more than 4 hours a day, why will he be participating in the 2 4-hour training blocks like everyone else in the house? Why would he even move in if he doesn't plan on playing by the rules? | ||
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Sinborn
United States275 Posts
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
United States346 Posts
oh and grats on the house and i hope you get more beautiful women in there as well... get em involved with e-sports | ||
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MonsieurGrimm
Canada2441 Posts
On August 03 2011 19:49 WizShaw wrote: No your wrong. The level of play in Korea is higher, and you need to play that level consistently. The only way for everybody to get better is if all the players in NA start forming houses, share information and practice with eachother. Otherwise, it will be futile. You're right, having all the foreign teams in houses is necessary to reach the same level as the Koreans. But even if it's just EG, they can get good enough with that to be competitive with the Koreans - not quite the same level, but close enough to win often. | ||
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DeadEyE X
United States23 Posts
On August 04 2011 03:35 Sinborn wrote: ... Is it wrong of me to want to find this house and show up with food JUST so I can hang out with Incontrol (And discuss the villainy of horses.) If that's wrong, I don't want to be right. | ||
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