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strength
United States493 Posts
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Khasidon
Denmark29 Posts
![]() ![]() ![]() For our Utopia! :D | ||
mprs
Canada2933 Posts
Actually, SK/coL/FXO/Liquid are within boundaries. EG is expanding the boundaries <3 | ||
JiYan
United States3668 Posts
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Reapher
Peru131 Posts
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
Really, really good move. With FXO/fOu, TL/oGs and now coL/MVP, it's really making it great for Korean teams and foreign teams to become partners/sister teams that benefit both sides. | ||
Chrisattack
Australia50 Posts
So much foreign and korean deals going on. | ||
Shizel
Canada23 Posts
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:35 Waxangel wrote: DRG FIGHTING!!!!!! Oh, here's a semi article I had written up before I stopped trying to make it any good: Did the EG's pursuit of TSL's Puma close the gates for many Koreans? As much as EG's Alex Garfield espoused the the need for Korea to open itself up to the international way of ESPORTS business, he may very well have become a detriment to his own cause. Following the the news of Puma's enticement by a foreign team, Korea's two major SC II media sites PlayXP and ThisIsGame wasted no time publishing editorials calling for the hasty implementation of protectionary measures from the Starcraft II Conference (S2Con) of Korea. In fact, ThisIsGame reported that GomTV and S2Con had already felt the need the create protectionary measures before the EG-TSL ordeal went down. If that were not enough, S2Con's own columnist also chipped in with his opinion, brutally criticizing his own organization for their failure to protect the interests of Korean teams and players in this regard. That's not to say that we won't see more deals like that between MVP and Complexity or oGs and SK. In those deals, the original Korean team retains effective 'ownership' of the player while the foreign company is merely subsidizing his overseas activities. But the line seems to be drawn at Korean players making complete moves to foreign teams, and it may soon become a very difficult one to cross. Sources: Starcraft II Conference: http://s2con.com/xe/column/8373 ThisIsGame: http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=710199&board=&category=13439&subcategory=&page=1&best=&searchmode=&search=&orderby=&token= PlayXP: http://www.playxp.com/sc2/news/view.php?article_id=3209931 Weapon of Choice: http://www.onemoregame.tv/index.php/shows/weapon-of-choice.html I think a great deal of this comes down to mere speculation, I expect with a sudden jump to stricter contracts a great deal of players are going to take a long, careful look at their options when it comes to playing Starcraft 2 professionally. This could probably go one of three ways. 1. The players and teams agree, perhaps totally or on a vast majority of terms when it comes to the adoption of new, tighter contracts. (this seems rather unlikely, considering that teams and players rarely get along so swimmingly, as evidenced by the genesis of KESPA in Sc1.) 2. The players decide to consolidate and agree to meet with team ownership and decide on rules that take into account the interests of both sides, as opposed to this strange view that team management is somehow the authority on all player considerations. (This seems likely, especially considering the already established players association headed by Junwi) 3. High profile players, ones who have the ability to make money anywhere, will scoff at tighter restrictions, potentially stagnant salaries and lockdows and seek out teams willing to shell out bigger bucks, more travel, etc. (Who knows? I could definitely see players with explosive recent developments of talent, see the entire HoSeo team haha, decide to strike out on their own so to speak.) In the end, I really think it does the scene a disservice to be so explicitly negative about everything, AG acted as an American business should, the Koreans are reacting in an appropriate manner, and in the end these conflicts will boil down to mere growing pains as the Sc2 scene truly becomes global. | ||
Mordiford
4448 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:57 Krikan wrote: Isn't the difference here that CoL players get to travel to Korea and stay with MVP to train if they so choose, thus making this deal different that the SK-OGS deal? SK just borrows the players when they go out of the country while Col gets the opportunity to ship a few players to Korea for a 3-4 month training regiment to improve. Seems like a good deal if they've got players willing to take the trip and make the effort. Pretty much, it's a legitimate two way partnership. Complexity will likely(read hopefully) encourage their own players to interact and be friendly with the MVP players when they come over to international events and should hope for the same in sending their players to Korea(which I hope they take advantage of). The SK deal was more just paying two players who are already contracted to a team to represent their brand for exposure. This seems about much more than simple exposure, it's a two way partnership as opposed to a simple sponsorship which is more of what SK's situation was. | ||
Otolia
France5805 Posts
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
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sLBraemar
Canada285 Posts
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denzelz
United States604 Posts
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denzelz
United States604 Posts
On July 23 2011 11:01 CellTech wrote: Why couldn't you guys just approach DongRaeGu when he was alone and offer him double to join your team? I lawl'd. | ||
Elite__
Canada976 Posts
glad to hear though, this is sick | ||
Irave
United States9965 Posts
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unoriginalname
England380 Posts
Congratulations on the merging, I was not a fan of Complexity prior but I guess I will have to be now to support DRG. Very good business decision. | ||
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Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On July 23 2011 10:59 JiYan wrote: ohhh now theres fxo/fou, liquid/ogs, col/mvp. am i missing the thing that makes this really distinct from the other two though? FXO and fOu are now the same team. They are now FXO. The fOu team is now the Korean division of FXO. Same coaching staff, players, etc. as fOu. If any FXO foreign players want to stay with Choya's team in Korea, they can. They don't need to live in the GOM house anymore. oGs/TL is more of a partnership. They aren't the same team, but they wear each others patches, practice together, and any TL member can go to Korea and practice at the oGs house. coL and MVP is a partnership between two players currently, DongRaeGu and Genius. coL sponsors them in Korea and at international events. When they come to international events, they wear coL jerseys with MVP patches. Probably means more members can get sponsored or some coL payers could go to Korea to practice with MVP. | ||
Sandro
897 Posts
On July 23 2011 11:01 Otolia wrote: Oh that's great, but I'm sorry to inform you that it won't make the NA scene any better. Typical European bashing on America for no reason. | ||
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