• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 02:12
CEST 08:12
KST 15:12
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach2[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple3BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon102Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 545 And Drops and Rifts Mutation # 544 Double Trouble Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses
Brood War
General
Bot on ladder [ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ StarCraft Human 'N' AI League
Tourneys
[ASL22] Ro8 Day 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Zero Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9301 users

compLexity & MVP Partner - DRG & Genius - coL.MVP - Page 7

Forum Index > SC2 General
633 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 32 Next All
Lefthanded
Profile Joined August 2010
United States67 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#121
awesome news!!!! Hopefully this leads to a few complexity members to visit Korea
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#122
Interesting news. I am glad to see such a Korea-Foreigner relationship take place.
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#123
On July 23 2011 10:54 fcmotive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 10:51 MisterFred wrote:
Man, first Complexity takes a stand on quality & mannership in dropping Destiny, now they help bridge the Korea-World gap. Quickly becoming my favorite team.


Mannership is not a word. I would not consider terminating Destiny a "stand on quality" as he has become a significant force in the community both in terms of player ability and player popularity.


Yeah, I wasn't actually a big fan of how the Destiny drop was handled but whatever, that's a different topic entirely.

Every team is allowed a couple of fumbles, this is just awesome news though.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#124
On July 23 2011 10:52 Naughty wrote:
As must as I dislike the way EG went about going after puma I still like that method a lot more than this Rent-A-Pro program SK and coL have taken up.

I fail to see how the players involved with these programs can ever be considered part of the team when all these organizations are doing is paying to borrow good players to make them look good at an event(s) rather than train and provide there own roster to get results.

How is buying out a top level Korean player to stomp the foreigner competition and absolutely demolish clan leagues any better? Its like the team gave up on their current roster and any future western players and just wants a Korean player for the notoriety.
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#125
LOL

Jason Lake showing EG how to do it.

Is this some sort of revenge by 1 upping EG?

Timing is fishy.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
RusHXceL
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1004 Posts
July 23 2011 01:55 GMT
#126
Wow! so many news in just couple days. I wouldn't be surprise if there's another one
Jeity
Profile Joined March 2011
99 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#127
Not a fan of compLexity. At all. That being said, I think this is a good deal and the kind of direction non-Korean teams should be heading with Korean teams. Team Liquid seems to have been doing this for awhile already, albeit as less of an "official business maneuver" and more of a casual agreement.

The compLexity/MVP partnership and FXO/fou acquisition are mutually beneficial to both players inside and outside of Korea; definitely more preferable to see this than teams that are simply actively trying to get Koreans to join them--the kinds of deals made on shaky grounds with very questionable long-term benefits.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#128
On July 23 2011 10:53 Ezze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 10:45 SeltzerPlease wrote:
Relevant?


OMG poor guys. Did you guys see the beds??? It's like they're imprisoned. I had no idea it was this bad. It almost seems abusive.


A lot of Korean places look like that. MVP's house really isn't all that bad.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#129
On July 23 2011 10:55 Ownos wrote:
LOL

Jason Lake showing EG how to do it.

Is this some sort of revenge by 1 upping EG?

Timing is fishy.


id say brilliant not fishy
1ManArmy
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands895 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#130
On July 23 2011 10:52 Naughty wrote:
As must as I dislike the way EG went about going after puma I still like that method a lot more than this Rent-A-Pro program SK and coL have taken up.

I fail to see how the players involved with these programs can ever be considered part of the team when all these organizations are doing is paying to borrow good players to make them look good at an event(s) rather than train and provide there own roster to get results.


slightly offtopic maybe, but i really have to ask this.

Alex Garfield said he was not a fan of those deals like SK-OGs (and Col-MVP i guess).
Since 'they are taking money away from the players, except the prizemoney' .

Now i wonder... what money does SK (and Col) take away from the player?
Normally the korean player and his team need to pay for the flight to international tournaments, and the only money the player could get on this tournement is prizemoney.

SK and Col seem to just let them wear other shirts at international tournements. I don't really see how this takes money away from the player.
Wouldst thou receive my all-in, cousin? - Choya
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#131
I will get an e-boner if we get to see DRG at all the major international events! So exciting!
Fan of: IdrA, Sen, Stephano, Snute, Axlav, Hero
jkl93
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden47 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#132
This last weeks are just insane in korea-western esports team affairs/delas :D I really like what this is doing for western sc2 breaking the barrier to korea. Even though one of the affairs could have been done a little smoother jk jk
Intelligence is limited, stupidity is endless
dc302
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia576 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#133
I wanna hear what Catz thinks...
...
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
July 23 2011 01:56 GMT
#134
This is all happening. Fucking insane.

Best of luck to complexity and MvP. Sick power play. So excited.
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
July 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#135
On July 23 2011 10:55 Ownos wrote:
LOL

Jason Lake showing EG how to do it.

Is this some sort of revenge by 1 upping EG?

Timing is fishy.


coL had an intense relationship when EG snagged coL's CS 1.6 team about 2-3 years ago, so I won't be surprised.
Krikan
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway520 Posts
July 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#136
Isn't the difference here that CoL players get to travel to Korea and stay with MVP to train if they so choose, thus making this deal different that the SK-OGS deal? SK just borrows the players when they go out of the country while Col gets the opportunity to ship a few players to Korea for a 3-4 month training regiment to improve. Seems like a good deal if they've got players willing to take the trip and make the effort.
Naniwa on making the MLG finals: Uh, it's ok.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
July 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#137
excellent move. MVP now gets exposure outside of korea and complexity gets to send their players to train in korea if they want. it's a win win situation. this type of collaboration is what's really needed to encourage the korean and foreigner scene to come together.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 23 2011 01:57 GMT
#138
On July 23 2011 10:48 jlake02 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 10:45 emc wrote:
The arrangement is believed to be a first of its kind and will witness joint promotions and cooperation on a global level.


definitely not the first of it's kind, they need to learn some sc2 history. Fou and FXO merger? and that ogs merger for when ogs MC and nada go abroad. Anyways, I'm excited that DRG got picked up by coL, which means we will see him a lot more.



It's very similar to other deals, for sure. However, the way it's structured is pretty unique. I *believe* it's the first of its kind but I could be wrong. Props and respect to those who have already done similar things.


It's the first of its kind, only in & of the fact it's the mash up of the oGs-TL & oGs-SK deals, just costing more than the TL partnership.

complexity would be wise to send Cruncher & Kiwikaki there as soon as possible. Otherwise, they're not going to get a lot out of this.
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
July 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#139
On July 23 2011 10:56 dc302 wrote:
I wanna hear what Catz thinks...


Pretty sure catz is having a hernia....
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
July 23 2011 01:58 GMT
#140
On July 23 2011 10:57 zoLo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 10:55 Ownos wrote:
LOL

Jason Lake showing EG how to do it.

Is this some sort of revenge by 1 upping EG?

Timing is fishy.


coL had an intense relationship when EG snagged coL's CS 1.6 team about 2-3 years ago, so I won't be surprised.

Yup. I read the announcement, thought that Jason Lake sounded incredibly familiar, and then it clicked. He's the guy who called out Alex Garfield for snatching coL's CS 1.6 team. This timing is absolutely genius.
Prev 1 5 6 7 8 9 32 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
2026 GSTL: Grand Finals
LiquipediaDiscussion
OSC
23:00
OSC Masters Cup #151 Qualifier
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
NeuroSwarm 186
StarCraft: Brood War
soO 474
hero 465
BeSt 250
Mind 32
Bale 23
ZergMaN 11
Terrorterran 11
Noble 10
yabsab 9
Icarus 6
Dota 2
monkeys_forever1100
League of Legends
JimRising 659
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King102
Other Games
summit1g9493
Livibee33
ArmadaUGS31
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick467
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 10
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH347
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• Pr0nogo 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2265
League of Legends
• Rush1207
• Stunt528
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
3h 48m
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
4h 48m
Monday Night Weeklies
9h 48m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 3h
Afreeca Starleague
1d 3h
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
1d 17h
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Online Event
5 days
FEL
5 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
BSL Open Qualifier
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-09-27
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.