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Apollo_Shards
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Duravi
United States1205 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:14 Cep wrote: yet another big name in esports walks the easy way. borrow players, attach their logo and try to sell any accomplishments 'as their own'. mym next? don't get me wrong,. it's great to see skilled players in on-/offline tournaments outside of korea. but you have to expect more from such teams as col/sk. Ok, so you expect them to develop the infrastructure for players they buy out instantly? Please tell me what is Puma's infrastructure for practice atm? Why in the hell would you not use the infrastructure that is already in place? | ||
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FarbrorAbavna
Sweden4856 Posts
Great work and cant wait to see more of MVP fighting overseas, congrats to both parties! | ||
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Barett
Canada454 Posts
On a serious not though, This is huge news. I wonder who will go to Korea? I would love to see Stalife or FireZerg head over. Grats guys. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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Johndarke
United States81 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:41 Mohdoo wrote: Has Catz given an opinion on this? Him being on Complexity and being the most vocal about keeping Koreans out of the foreign scene is absolutely hilarious to me. I really, really, really want to hear what he has to say about this. I agree. I, too, wonder what Catz' take on this is. | ||
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catburst
United States57 Posts
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
If you sign them then MVP has to sign new players. Or you yourself sign new players. This joint deal fluff does nothing. Sad that this will be met with mindless praise while Puma's deal gets trashed. | ||
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koolaid1990
831 Posts
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Xivsa
United States1009 Posts
No, it's not exactly the same. First of all, SK no longer has a SC2 team at all to speak of. They've just agreed to pay for NaDa and MC to attend foreign tournaments under the SK name as well as oGs. The FXO-fOu merger is just that, a merger. FXO is absorbing fOu under its umbrella, basically, while letting the old fOu manage its gaming affairs under its coach and leadership. Everyone in FXO and fOu will play under the FXO name as it is the parent organization. In this case, coL is entering into a partnership with MVP to sponsor DRG and Genius in foreign tournaments representing coL, like the SK-oGs deal, but also to let coL players go to Korea to train, practice, and compete under the MVP banner. This second part is sort of what TL has with oGs, but the coL-MVP deal is much stronger. It is not a merger like FXO-fOu as MVP will still be independently operated and managed. No other arrangement is exactly like the coL-MVP deal to date. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:51 wats0n wrote: This is just like the SK deal. This is a joke deal. They're not actually Complexity players. This doesn't do anything for spreading the wealth among the talent pool. If you sign them then MVP has to sign new players. Or you yourself sign new players. This joint deal fluff does nothing. Sad that this will be met with mindless praise while Puma's deal gets trashed. Complexity helps to pay for traveling to foreign tournaments. In repayment, they get to use the players for exposure and prestige and whatnot, which is the entire reason any team ever recruits a player. Additionally, since it is clear that Korean training is better than any other, Complexity is allowed to send their players to the MVP house to train with the Koreans there. This is an extremely mutually beneficial agreement which does a lot to grow both teams. Can you clarify how this "fluff does nothing"? I get the feeling you didn't read the OP... | ||
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:56 Mohdoo wrote: Complexity helps to pay for traveling to foreign tournaments. In repayment, they get to use the players for exposure and prestige and whatnot, which is the entire reason any team ever recruits a player. Additionally, since it is clear that Korean training is better than any other, Complexity is allowed to send their players to the MVP house to train with the Koreans there. This is an extremely mutually beneficial agreement which does a lot to grow both teams. Can you clarify how this "fluff does nothing"? I get the feeling you didn't read the OP... They're paying to travel players just so that they can wear their t-shirt. They're still MVP team and not complexity. They could instead sign players and travel them and thereby grow the salaried player base. This is just paying to sponsor players. There is in fact a difference. | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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TooN
1046 Posts
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Cep
Germany41 Posts
On July 23 2011 14:30 Duravi wrote: Ok, so you expect them to develop the infrastructure for players they buy out instantly? Please tell me what is Puma's infrastructure for practice atm? Why in the hell would you not use the infrastructure that is already in place? you don't get the point. they bought no player, they borrowed them. the players still train in korea with their team and just represent col/sk in foreign tournaments. to me that's just a half-hearted attempt to get a foot in the sc2 pro scene. you really think the likes of col/sk lack of infrastructure to give their players an esports worthy environment? and puma switched from tsl to eg. that's not comparable. | ||
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wats0n
United States509 Posts
Deals like this don't actually help Korean sports. MVP isn't going to go out and give a bunch of kids deals in response to this. This just eases the financial burden and pressure of having to travel their current players and lets them maintain the status quo where everyone is making jack shit. It's poor business, but whatever. I'm just a lone voice crying in the wind and nobody will even understand this. | ||
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
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Frogsox
Australia274 Posts
1. That Korean SC2 teams are realising how lucarative and important the international scene is becoming to their players and that they want to be a part of it. It's a growing trend towards a truly international SC2 stage. 2. SC2 in Korea isn't as popular as it is outside of the country and the lack of funding to a lot of teams is beginning to show. We've seen (especially in the last couple of weeks) a lot of Korean teams making very drastic moves. | ||
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