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On July 23 2011 15:46 wats0n wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 15:44 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
I don't like these types of "play-for-two-teams-but-not-really" deals. It's a way for the western teams to claim victories, without actually doing any of the work, so to speak.
If you went out and bought a high level team, I'd actually like that more than simply renting Koreans for Western leagues/tournies. I'm with you all the way, but I believe those deals are down the road. I think right now foreign teams can't compensate Korean teams with buyouts that are fair enough for them to part with their players. What you and I want is the #1 type of transaction but for now we will have to settle for these sort of deals which are the #2. Gotta be patient. It'll happen some day.
Well, if you believe EG's Alex, they actually will sell off their top players, they're just asking for a price that would make it cheaper to buy the entire Team. That either says they're asking for an insane amount, or the teams aren't worth that much. Though I've seen a few people inside the esports industry saying the Korean teams aren't too profitable.
I think, for the time being, we're going to see something akin to the Chinese "Joint Venture" model for some teams. I don't think that's a great model, long term, but, without being willing to invest in an infrastructure to train players, it'll do for the time being.
One thing that should be noted from the press release, this will let Complexity use MVP players in Online tournament. Read that as "EG Master's Cup". I think if I was one of the currently Complexity rostered players, I'd be getting to Korea in a hurry. You job is going to be in massive peril very soon.
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MVPCatZ!! this sounds rly nice though.. didnt read the whole thread, but not sure if its the first of its kind, sounds strikingly similar to the ogs-sk deal!
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Joint team model seems the best to me, rather than poaching single Koreans to join foreign teams, but live by themselves in Korea.
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Crazy amount of Korean/West SC2 news! This sounds like a great decision!
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those deals actually do nothing but bring more koreans to foreign events
this seems to be evolving into the state wc3 was in
i kinda dislike it 
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I hope it does not become too difficult for foreign teams to gain Korean players in the future. In my opinion that would stop the need for the SC 2 scene in Korea to become attractive enough to keep the players on the Korean teams. However, I do agree that reasonable contracts would be good for the security of Korean teams. To make it extremely difficult could have its own bad effects, the feeling of not having freewill can start revolutions. :D
My first ever TL forum post, though <3 team liquid articles and streams.
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That's crazy... Seriously this week, every single time I have woken up and started Team Liquid, there's was some sort of new insane deal between a Korean and a Foreign team...
I don't really know if it's all good, all bad or somewhere in the middle but I'm really curious to see how it's going to evolve.
One thing that has been said and that I really agree on is that the current roster of coL seems week compared to those 2 (DRG especially), if this can be extra motivation for those guys to train their ass off, why not ?
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On July 23 2011 11:25 Aaronplayshorn wrote:
when will this happen for oGs and Liquid?
Didn't it already happen? But while the other teams use koreans to play in foreign leagues, here it is the korean team using foreigners to play in GSTL 
Oh and I know it won't happen but just for the names sake : Slayers-Empire would be great
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On July 23 2011 10:35 Muffinman53 wrote:
Shit just got serious.
 ...... Shit just got real******
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So they are pulling a SK?
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compLexity is pretty smart for snapping up DRG; he's going to be huge in the future.
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On July 23 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
MVPCatZ!! this sounds rly nice though.. didnt read the whole thread, but not sure if its the first of its kind, sounds strikingly similar to the ogs-sk deal!
This is literally the oGs-SK deal, merged with the oGs-TL deal, with a proviso that they can use MVP players in Online team tournaments.
But, this is still effectively the oGs-SK deal until such time as a Complexity player heads to the MVP team house.
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On July 23 2011 16:57 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
MVPCatZ!! this sounds rly nice though.. didnt read the whole thread, but not sure if its the first of its kind, sounds strikingly similar to the ogs-sk deal! This is literally the oGs-SK deal, merged with the oGs-TL deal, with a proviso that they can use MVP players in Online team tournaments. But, this is still effectively the oGs-SK deal until such time as a Complexity player heads to the MVP team house.
This is what i thought, so i dont see why it says its believed to be the first of its kind. lol
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That's cool. Congrats to both parties.
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The first of it's kind. Eh, sorry to break it to ya coL, but no so much!
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After all theese partnership announcements i want the "chocolate raspels on a cake".
Basicly i want a new balance patch announcement !
New team training enviorement : check !
New maps : check !
New balance patch : Blizzard your move is missing !
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On July 23 2011 17:03 IceSlipper wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 16:57 Taf the Ghost wrote:On July 23 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
MVPCatZ!! this sounds rly nice though.. didnt read the whole thread, but not sure if its the first of its kind, sounds strikingly similar to the ogs-sk deal! This is literally the oGs-SK deal, merged with the oGs-TL deal, with a proviso that they can use MVP players in Online team tournaments. But, this is still effectively the oGs-SK deal until such time as a Complexity player heads to the MVP team house. This is what i thought, so i dont see why it says its believed to be the first of its kind. lol
The first person to but Beans & Rice together technically was the first to put them together?
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"Complexity approached us in a very respective manner..."
And that's all it took.
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On July 23 2011 17:08 Taf the Ghost wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2011 17:03 IceSlipper wrote:On July 23 2011 16:57 Taf the Ghost wrote:On July 23 2011 16:30 IceSlipper wrote:
MVPCatZ!! this sounds rly nice though.. didnt read the whole thread, but not sure if its the first of its kind, sounds strikingly similar to the ogs-sk deal! This is literally the oGs-SK deal, merged with the oGs-TL deal, with a proviso that they can use MVP players in Online team tournaments. But, this is still effectively the oGs-SK deal until such time as a Complexity player heads to the MVP team house. This is what i thought, so i dont see why it says its believed to be the first of its kind. lol The first person to but Beans & Rice together technically was the first to put them together?
its the exact same as the TL-oGs-SK deal..
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Great deal! More DRG for us 
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