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Whenever you hit post in this thread, think long and hard. Are you showing the proper amount of respect? If that is not the case, do not hit the post button.
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
July 21 2011 23:41 GMT
#601
I fully support Slayers Eve and Slayers Jessica on this.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
July 21 2011 23:42 GMT
#602
Zzzzz! What's with the drama again? Im away just a moment and boom 30 pages!
SolidPirate
Profile Joined March 2011
United States7 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#603
<33333 This is a great thing! Go Slayers!
"I'm rolling like a god damned baneling nest"
S.O.L.I.D.
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States792 Posts
July 21 2011 23:43 GMT
#604
On July 22 2011 08:34 K3Nyy wrote:
Nobody should ever be bullied but to not expect it from the community because she was invited because of her looks seems quite naive. There will always be criticism from people when something feels off.


This this this. Jessica and SlayerS can't have really expected the community to support this move wholeheartedly when they admit to choosing a new player based on looks and potential as opposed to results and skill. That being said, the porn shit and hateful posts are taking this too far.
iinsom
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia339 Posts
July 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#605
Ive always been a fan of SlayerS, and your post has made me respect you guys even more. Boxer has been idolized by many millions of people, and his legacy will never fail. Thanks for the very well thought out post, and i hope you guys can get back to your winning ways!
DNA61289
Profile Joined August 2010
United States665 Posts
July 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#606
Slayer_jessica, I hope you and Slayers get this whole situation figured out. Even if Slayers_Eve isn't the best player in the world and some people might not agree with your decision to add her to the team, in no way does she deserve what has been done to her. Best of luck and regards.
But yeah being a Korean gamer is very imba. If you're a non-korean gamer you have to balance your game playing with earning money and your real life. If you're Korean you just sit around playing games all day eating 2 cent ramyun and becoming gosu.
flyingbangus
Profile Joined December 2010
United States121 Posts
July 21 2011 23:45 GMT
#607
Thanks SlayerS_Jessica for taking the time to try and clear things up!
55v66v77v88v99v4sffffuuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzz
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
July 21 2011 23:46 GMT
#608
It's great that women are getting into StarCraft and esports but there was a lot of stuff in there that suggested you didn't think women couldn't compete with men.

it is no mean feat for a female to reach Master level while laddering against males.

She was not inducted so that she would achieve incredible feats in individual leagues like the GSL.


Holding people to a different standard will only exclude them further from the community. You can see the same thing with sports at the moment. Football is the biggest sport in the world yet barely anyone watches female football tournaments. For women to actually be accepted and feel welcome we need to expect them to be able to compete with everyone. There is no reason why a woman who practices enough couldn't win any major tournament and if you don't expect someone to be able to compete then they shouldn't be a professional gamer whoever they are.
Liquipedia
ClysmiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2192 Posts
July 21 2011 23:46 GMT
#609
I think it was unfair of people who disagreed with SlayerS' move to acquire Eve to attack Eve directly, as if she was at fault. I still don't know where I stand on the decision to acquire Eve on the team, but I do know that Eve certainly hasn't done anything wrong. She is just playing the game she loves and she got approached by a prestigious team with a great offer. Why would anyone blame her or attack her for saying yes? Even though I'm not sure if SlayerS made the right move acquiring Eve, I can say that I am very pleased with how well they are defending her against these unfair attacks.
Merfyn
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom945 Posts
July 21 2011 23:48 GMT
#610
So Well written, wow, just wow.
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.."
Haze.884
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand192 Posts
July 21 2011 23:48 GMT
#611

And he must have believed that it was better to spread this on TL instead of trying to do it in Korea.

(He says that someone on TL independently posted his claims. I find this hard to believe.)


Well, you can believe him now.I decided to post that thread because the way you have been acting was really questionable. You must surely know that your tone of writting was way beyond 'keyboard warrior'

I like how you have apologised (hopefully to that high-school girl too). I wish best of luck to SlayerS.
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decaf
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria1797 Posts
July 21 2011 23:49 GMT
#612
Why's there always such a big fuss when some female wants to go pro or whatever?
Even mentioning that she is female is already differentiating no matter what your intentions are.

Women in esports should not receive any more attention than equally skilled males do. As IdrA already put it, it's a video game and not a dating show.

I find those who attack and those who defend females equally disturbing and wrong. When will we ever be able to actually only care about meaningful information?
LesPhoques
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada782 Posts
July 21 2011 23:50 GMT
#613
SLAYERS_BOXER HWAITING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Abdool
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
July 21 2011 23:51 GMT
#614
As a fan, you have the full support of the honest members of the community,

SlayerS fighting!
non :(
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-21 23:57:26
July 21 2011 23:54 GMT
#615
Makes sense to me. In all honesty she's probably one of the best female sc2 players in the world.

Worse players get a lot more attention than really good unknown players for a variety of reasons (Destiny) so this isn't anything new.
iamahydralisk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States813 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#616
Sorry if this has already been asked, but did Jessica write this herself (as opposed to having a translator write it)? If so, consider me incredibly impressed. This was better written than it would've been by most native English speakers.
"well if youre looking for long term, go safe, if you expect it to end either way, go risky. wow. just like sc2" - friend of mine when I asked him which girl to pick
mangoloid
Profile Joined September 2010
100 Posts
July 21 2011 23:56 GMT
#617
I haven't been following the story and had no idea this was getting so crazy in Korea.

My hat is off to Slayers Jessica. Judging by the very harsh community response, I was worried about what would happen (and it has indeed become much worse), but Slayers Jessica has been strong and professional and has taken responsibility and defended her decisions (and her team). I don't know whether girl progaming will ever be able to succeed considering the environment of the community, but if it does succeed it will be thanks to this example.

To Slayers Jessica: stay strong and continue the good work. Hopefully one day there will be many more progaming teams with female divisions and we'll have competitive female tournaments worth watching; but there are still many hurdles to jump until that point, and the community needs good examples to follow. You have earned my respect for your professionalism (especially in the face of vicious criticism) and your clear vision for the Slayers team, and I am sure I am not alone in saying so.
Best of luck to the team.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
July 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#618
Posting now as support for SlayerS_Jessica. I've been aware of this as it's unfolded and I wish SlayerS, most notably Eve and Jessica the best luck and health while weathering this shit storm.

As always, TL <3 SlayerS
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
Deleuzebwo
Profile Joined April 2011
72 Posts
July 21 2011 23:59 GMT
#619
On July 22 2011 08:56 mangoloid wrote:
I haven't been following the story and had no idea this was getting so crazy in Korea.

My hat is off to Slayers Jessica. Judging by the very harsh community response, I was worried about what would happen (and it has indeed become much worse), but Slayers Jessica has been strong and professional and has taken responsibility and defended her decisions (and her team). I don't know whether girl progaming will ever be able to succeed considering the environment of the community, but if it does succeed it will be thanks to this example.

To Slayers Jessica: stay strong and continue the good work. Hopefully one day there will be many more progaming teams with female divisions and we'll have competitive female tournaments worth watching; but there are still many hurdles to jump until that point, and the community needs good examples to follow. You have earned my respect for your professionalism (especially in the face of vicious criticism) and your clear vision for the Slayers team, and I am sure I am not alone in saying so.
Best of luck to the team.



Again, though, what she wrote in the post is a step in the wrong direction. I'm still hoping that it is actually a language barrier issue, but implying that women could not compete in Brood War and that Jessica cannot perform in the GSL, being there merely for entertainment, is a regressive step.

Why not just say "We think Eve has a lot of potential, as she won the women's tournament and is a strong Diamond player?"
Becoming-intense
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
July 22 2011 00:02 GMT
#620
Haha Jessica well done, awesome response indeed! If I ever see you guys I'll treat you guys to a meal ;D
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