EPTPuma leaves TSL for EG - Page 45
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Sero
United States692 Posts
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Ezze
Canada934 Posts
Puma's skill level will drop like mad. EG will solidify its reputation as a joke team. TSL loses its best member arguably. The fans will have second thoughts about supporting Puma. Imagine Boxer's reaction to this! | ||
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Dakure
United States513 Posts
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PHC
United States472 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:09 seiferoth10 wrote: So let's sum up the facts: 1. Puma was NOT under contract to TSL. 2. EG approched Puma with an attractive offer. 3. He liked it, and signed it. 4. Now he's under contract. What's wrong again? OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee Why would TSL use the word "release" if Puma wasn't under a contract? @maelstromau 7 minutes ago | ||
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ehalf
408 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:06 TheSilverfox wrote: I've got a feeling that more than coaches and managers that are unhappy with this. DongRaeGu will go to MLG Anaheim... My bet is that the MVP coach/manager is kind of nervous right now. LOL, I was about tho say the same thing  | ||
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Torpedo.Vegas
United States1890 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:08 EchoZ wrote: Guess its all back to square one huh? GAH more information needed What if this was a giant game of telephone. Starting this morning in Korea when Puma ask for some EGGS for breakfast, hours later becoming "Im leaving for EG fast!" | ||
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:08 Talin wrote: What facts? I'm pretty sure TSL knows if they had a player contracted to them or not, and they obviously have some reason to be upset. Yeah, EG will probably come up with a "statement" of their own, but we've already seen several times in the past how "honest" EG can be. I would not call that "more facts", rather a cover-up story (probably already in the making). Ugh. People so desperate to choose sides. And you aren't slightly biased are you? Good luck to EG and Puma. | ||
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Stamper
Germany148 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:09 Mortal wrote: no he won't be. one amazing practice partner doesn't improve you in every matchup, stop jumping to conclusions Especially as ZvT is totally IdrA's problem. | ||
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IceSlipper
Australia1028 Posts
Without a contract you have no say in 'releasing' him.. He is not bound and doesn't need releasing.. Without a contract players can just get up and go whenever they want.. You think that without a contract if TSL didn't 'release' puma he would still be there? LOL.. | ||
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:10 Mortal wrote: he's not legally ON the team. so he's not being released from anything, he's simply relocating to play w/ other people. It could be just a way of saying things though, like, "let him go from the team, released him from the team" you know? | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:09 seiferoth10 wrote: So let's sum up the facts: 1. Puma was NOT under contract to TSL. 2. EG approched Puma with an attractive offer. 3. He liked it, and signed it. 4. Now he's under contract. What's wrong again? Don't take random comments from a Korean site as real. That's the same as taking random rumors from TL members as fact. There is no source saying that he wasn't under a written contract. If he wasn't, then Lee would have never said he released him from said contract. | ||
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EchoZ
Japan5041 Posts
On July 21 2011 15:48 EchoZ wrote: Poll: Like or Dislike Dislike (187) Like (182) 369 total votes Your vote: Like or Dislike Easy Poll Any more? | ||
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munCh101
19 Posts
Though..where is Puma going to live now? It'd b pretty cool if he goes to the EG house in the US. | ||
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Ryukku
Singapore545 Posts
though i think what EG did is not a nice thing, but it just shows they will do what they need to be the best within legal limits. Its every man for themselves, and i definitely dont fault puma for his move =)... good luck puma! | ||
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Taf the Ghost
United States11751 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:03 SourD wrote: been lurking at playxp.com for koreans reaction to this (im korean born and raised) people are saying Puma just let the coach know that he is leaving for EG and just packed his things and left on the 20th without any discussion of this matter. also, it seems like there was no written contract signed with TSL. with that, of course the coach had no choice but to announce his release. this was from just a forum so take it for what it is. If this information pans out, then it's a question of who approached first. A lot in this thread are jumping to way more conclusions that we have information. If he had no contract (or nothing like a non-compete/non-discussion in one), then no "rules" were broken. It makes sense from EG's end. I wonder if TSL needs someone to be working the business end of things. With all of their departures, it's kind of weird. | ||
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-KarakStarcraft-
United States258 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:10 JoeSchmoe wrote: what are you talking about. it's legal but it's bad ethics. do you know anything about business? there's a ton of things you can do that's legal but makes you seem like a dick. I know quite a bit about business. I'm just a casual gamer and I have a real world career in the legal industry. Employers trying to lure employees away from other companies is super standard. It's not bad ethics. If you are trying to steal trade secrets or something that's a different story, but that isn't the case here. People (especially those apparently not under a binding contract) switch jobs all the time. To call this bad ethics is to call what makes the American white collar employment market so competitive for highly skilled workers unethical. A player has to be bound to another team forever? Head hunters for employers can't contact potential employees? You can't court someone away and pay them a higher salary? Unless you have a CBA, pre-existing law or contract preventing this behavior, you either pay the competitive wage or you deal with the consequences. Period. People aren't slaves. | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:06 youngminii wrote: Nonono Let me fill you in on Koreans. Koreans have a level of kinship deeper than westerners. If you get together as a team, you will become very close. The coach is a father figure and he wanted what would make Puma happy. If Puma wanted to go and join another team then the coach would let him. This doesn't change the fact that EG is a complete joke of a team who didn't respect TSL as a team, didn't respect SC2 as a sport, didn't respect the Korean culture and they certainly don't respect Puma. The worst part is Puma had such a bright future ahead of him too. lol my korean genes are kicking in for the whole respect thing ==;; Koreans also seem to think that a female celebrity coming forward and revealing that she is being physically abused by her husband is a case of her failing to "maintain dignity". The chances of the TSL coaching staff even letting EG talk to Puma is slim to none. Puma most definitely deserves more then he got payed at TSL (assuming he got payed at all, he had zero results prior to NASL), if this is what he is happy with, then who cares how they went about it. | ||
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Angelbelow
United States3728 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:09 IceSlipper wrote: How do you 'release' someone not under contract? What exactly are you releasing them from? Are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? If youre disagreeing, I think its pretty straight forward. And if you just sit back and think it'll hit you. But incase it doesnt, he was "released" from the team. IE. Not on TSL anymore. | ||
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Kraznaya
United States3711 Posts
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SourD
United States81 Posts
On July 21 2011 16:09 seiferoth10 wrote: So let's sum up the facts: 1. Puma was NOT under contract to TSL. 2. EG approched Puma with an attractive offer. 3. He liked it, and signed it. 4. Now he's under contract. What's wrong again? 1 is NOT A FACT. its just a rumor from playxp. i said so in my original post. | ||
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