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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
July 21 2011 12:38 GMT
#2601
For those who are concerned about such team hops. Once KeSPA gets involved you won't have to worry about such dealings anymore. They have their foot right in the door. A few years from now we won't have such problems in SC2. At least, not in Korea. I cannot speak for the rest of the world because there is no organization that looks over the international scene.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
July 21 2011 12:39 GMT
#2602
On July 21 2011 21:34 starmeat_ wrote:
SC2, where the talent gets bought out and lost.

EG, working together to help destroy SC2.

YAY, I have new SC2 and EG slogans!

Side note, I will go out of my way to avoid ALL corporations sponsoring EG. ALL OF THEM!


You go girl! I'm sure actively avoiding the Monster Energy drink in the grocery store, maybe even sending a deathly glare in its direction, will help destroy EG!
memes are a dish best served dank
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
July 21 2011 12:40 GMT
#2603
TSL should just make a counter-offer is they really wanted to keep PuMa on the team.
Shableh
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada40 Posts
July 21 2011 12:41 GMT
#2604
On July 21 2011 21:36 wklbishop wrote:
LOL at people judging the deal based completely on Western standards of morality and considering other standards of morality invalid.


Considering Koreans have an infinitely higher standard of morality.... imagine what is going on over there and take this with a grain of salt
I don't always herp, but when I herp, I derp
Marcus420
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada1923 Posts
July 21 2011 12:41 GMT
#2605
WHAT?!!!!!!!!

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6232 Posts
July 21 2011 12:41 GMT
#2606
On July 21 2011 21:36 wklbishop wrote:
LOL at people judging the deal based completely on Western standards of morality and considering other standards of morality invalid.


What does that even mean? If anything it's worse using an eastern "standard of morality," with its sense of honour and family etc. The western capitalist outlook is probably the one in which it makes the most sense.

Dumb comment.
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3126 Posts
July 21 2011 12:41 GMT
#2607
LOL at people judging the deal based completely on Western standards of morality and considering other standards of morality invalid.


...what? What other standards of morality are you referring to? Eastern standards of morality, which as has already been said, are just as strict as Western, if not more so? "Corporate" morality? Whatever-the-heck-I-want morality?
Give me a break.
Dies Irae venit. youtube.com/SnobbinsFilms
alan25
Profile Joined September 2010
United States379 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2608
there goes puma's skill
Xiaon
Profile Joined May 2011
United States245 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2609
Everyone raging at EG should stop and think. We don't have any of EG's story, we know PUMA made this deal, not forced to accept, we don't know if he's coming to NA to practice, we don't know ANYTHING, and it's TSLs fault for not contractually keeping PuMa.

You guys are brats.
idra demuslim incontrol lzgamer machine strife cro axslav, oh and INKAAAA
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2610
On July 21 2011 21:38 enecateReAP wrote:
I think you're all forgetting the thing here...EVERYONE keeps saying "This is great for Puma, but..."
WHY BUT!?
Isn't what Puma wants the most important thing here? HE choose to do what HE thought was best, NOTHING ELSE MATTERS x.X;
This community is freaking awful....

Which is why he gets to make the decision...doesn't mean it might not be wrong or detrimental to his training. Your post is freaking awful.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2611
On July 21 2011 21:40 Shuray wrote:
TSL should just make a counter-offer is they really wanted to keep PuMa on the team.


Yes, to the people solely blaming EG, I would assume TSL had the option to just give a counter-offer. It's equally sad that they wouldn't/couldn't dish out the money to keep him on the team.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Flanagan
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States166 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2612
On July 21 2011 21:35 CursedRich wrote:


The only thing that Inc and Machine have done is finish high in 1, 16 man double elim tournament in over a year and not even consistenly produced, Inc wil be out of NASL and MLG before the end of the year IMO and Machine too.

The unusual format of MLG protects players and Inc wasn't even good enough to get into the top 16 after all of last years MLG's, he was ranked 18th and got a free pass as jinro and Huk didnt come back. He may well be lucky again because of the format and the fact that Koreans who have come previously will probably not come to each one allowing the free ranking points they get for starting in the top 16 to inflate their positions.


OH MY GAWD GUYS, iNcontrol, Machine, Strifecro, IdrA, Axslav, ARE ALL SO BAD. THEY NEVER GET 1ST PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

...

Seriously though, this mentality needs to stop. The one where since there can only be so many good players, and if you can't beat MMA to get top MLG, or Naniwa or Kiwikaki or Losira or HuK or Bomber...

OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE BAD, RITE?!?

/sarcasmoff
cscarfo1
Profile Joined March 2011
United States307 Posts
July 21 2011 12:42 GMT
#2613
great move for EG. Sad Puma has to leave korea. Maybe one day he will return hopefully. He will be missed in the korean scene
RIP oGs :( Bisu~ MC~Jaedong~Hero~Tyler~Flash~NaNi~DRG~MVP~Nestea~FXOz~and of course ForGG
Duravi
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1205 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2614
This is basically going to force the korean teams to add some contracts or clauses to their players which make it more difficult for them to join foreigner teams, even if the acquisition is done with both teams in communication from the beginning unlike this one. It is something that eventually would have to happen, so it is not like EG is "killing esports" or anything like that, but color me not surprised EG is the catalyst.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2615
If PuMa wants to make himself persona non grata to the entire Korean scene for money that's not EG's fault.

I think we'll soon be seeing how many Koreans actually enjoy getting room, board and no salary.
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2616
How the hell did I miss this :o Huge news!
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2617
This is actually cool regardless how disturbing some people may think it is, for huge korean power house players being picked up by top foreign teams just shows how big Sc2 is getting in the foreign scene. EGPuMa, has a nice ring to it.
SlayerS Fighting!
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2618
On July 21 2011 21:40 Shuray wrote:
TSL should just make a counter-offer is they really wanted to keep PuMa on the team.


Egggggggsssssssaaaaaaaactly.
RedHelix
Profile Joined August 2010
250 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2619
I love how theres all this outrage now but as soon as PuMa starts going to MLG's and competing in European tournaments people will forget this ever happened and just admire how good he is. Everyone should be happy for PuMa, it probably wasn't an easy decision, but if he's better off in EG I say more power to him, we should be happy that talented players get these kinds of opportunities.
Sandro
Profile Joined April 2011
897 Posts
July 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#2620
On July 21 2011 21:41 Shableh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2011 21:36 wklbishop wrote:
LOL at people judging the deal based completely on Western standards of morality and considering other standards of morality invalid.


Considering Koreans have an infinitely higher standard of morality.... imagine what is going on over there and take this with a grain of salt

Yeah I hate the culture I was born and raised in too.
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