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Belha
Italy2850 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
and people use timers and stuff all the time. I wouldn't want it because it seems like training wheels but it doesn't seem all that bad to me. like someone else said, it's like having your build order in front of you or, I don't know, paying someone to tell you to make scvs every 12 seconds or whatever it is. in a tournament with money? no I don't think it'd be allowed. beyond that it's not worth getting up in arms about. just a tool that does a job that hopefully you can eventually do yourself. | ||
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ru.meta
Russian Federation88 Posts
On July 15 2011 10:22 zergrushkekeke wrote: I am still not 100 % sure about how raidcall works, and how blizzard could monitor what programs are running, or displayed on top of theirs. ... Check warden description. Raidcall modifies DirectX output and that caused ban trigger. You script does it with windows and it's OK. | ||
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zergrushkekeke
Australia241 Posts
Just read your other post and it makes sense to me now, I forgot about people that don't run full screen windowed mode. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On July 15 2011 07:48 Grapefruit wrote: http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/sc2eula.html + stupid meme User was warned for this post You said "this will get you banned." You then posted the exact sentence I referenced earlier when stating the TOS can be up to interpretation and it could be against the TOS. HOWEVER, this is undetectable by Blizzard and will never, ever, ever get him banned. I guess you may not understand how software or computers in general work. Or maybe you are some secret computer genius and would like to explain exactly how Blizzard would have any clue this was running, you know, seeing as how it doesn't interact with the game client whatsoever. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
The sad thing is that this thread is still open while it clearly even has an instruction how to use the hack. Good job. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:08 iNfeRnaL wrote: To me that is a hack and nothing else. The sad thing is that this thread is still open while it clearly even has an instruction how to use the hack. Good job. About as much of a hack as timer on my phone set to go off every x seconds reminding me to do something. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
You use this to prevent you from making mistakes. By using this, you assume you will perform better than you would without it. ANY TIME you are using something 3rd party to help you prevent making mistakes, you are cheating. Sad to see this still open  | ||
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Eleaven
772 Posts
Really surprised to see people reacting this way STILL. Good job forum-users! :D | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
And nope, the timer wouldn't be a hack because it is NOT IN THE FUCKING GAME. Why do I even argue with an idiot that tries to defend a cheater? Waste of time... | ||
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grs
Germany2339 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:12 iNfeRnaL wrote: This is not in the game either. Could people calling this a hack actually try and understand what this does? If you don't understand something, asking is a valid option; screaming wrong things is not.The fucking timer on your phone is a distraction and NOT on your screen. You might certainly even lose focus instead of gaining it if it is on your phone. And nope, the timer wouldn't be a hack because it is NOT IN THE FUCKING GAME. Why do I even argue with an idiot that tries to defend a cheater? Waste of time... | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:12 iNfeRnaL wrote: The fucking timer on your phone is a distraction and NOT on your screen. You might certainly even lose focus instead of gaining it if it is on your phone. And nope, the timer wouldn't be a hack because it is NOT IN THE FUCKING GAME. Why do I even argue with an idiot that tries to defend a cheater? Waste of time... This isn't IN THE FUCKING GAME either. It's a time based image that pop up ON TOP OF your starcraft 2 screen. There, it's a timer that uses an image as the 'trigger' instead of noise like a typical timer. So you think this is ok if on my second monitor I made it so every x seconds an image popped up to remind me to do something would be ok? Just as long as it's not on my SC2 monitor? LOL.... | ||
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clayn
Germany444 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:15 Charger wrote: This isn't IN THE FUCKING GAME either. It's a time based image that pop up ON TOP OF your starcraft 2 screen. There, it's a timer that uses an image as the 'trigger' instead of noise like a typical timer. So you think this is ok if on my second monitor I made it so every x seconds an image popped up to remind me to do something would be ok? Just as long as it's not on my SC2 monitor? LOL.... Why would someone use this? They would use it to help them perform better at SC2. They do this because they know that it will help them. People make build order and SCV production mistakes all the time. Being able to keep up with everything going on at the same time is a part of the game, and someone would hope to make that easier by using this. This is 3rd party and aims to help someone perform better in SC2 by providing them a way to not forget to build things. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:15 Charger wrote: This isn't IN THE FUCKING GAME either. It's a time based image that pop up ON TOP OF your starcraft 2 screen. There, it's a timer that uses an image as the 'trigger' instead of noise like a typical timer. So you think this is ok if on my second monitor I made it so every x seconds an image popped up to remind me to do something would be ok? Just as long as it's not on my SC2 monitor? LOL.... ... go defend cheating more. Gogogo. | ||
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Eleaven
772 Posts
 baseless accusations and not knowing what your talking about? Gogogo! Come on, at least understand how something works before bashing it and demanding thread closurers or bans etc. Opening an image isn't a hack. Ladder is practice tool. | ||
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Charger
United States2405 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:18 Mohdoo wrote: Why would someone use this? They would use it to help them perform better at SC2. They do this because they know that it will help them. People make build order and SCV production mistakes all the time. Being able to keep up with everything going on at the same time is a part of the game, and someone would hope to make that easier by using this. This is 3rd party and aims to help someone perform better in SC2 by providing them a way to not forget to build things. I'm not arguing against that at all, in fact I have been agreeing with people who have this belief. It does change the experience of the game, which is against the TOS. My only argument in this thread has been defending it from idiots who compare this to something like a maphack or other actual hacks that can be detected and can get someone banned. It is an image on a computer screen popping up every x seconds and is far from a hack. I think this could be a really amazing training tool for lower level players and I would hate for people to scare off some of the lower league players who might want to train with this because people who have no idea how computers actually work tell them they will get banned. You and I probably share a lot of the same opinions on the morality of the subject but come on, it's not a hack just like setting an audio alarm isn't a hack and the idiots who cry for bans have no idea what they are talking about. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
like writing down build orders. personally I don't think it comes close to something like map hacking, but I guess some people just look at it all differently. I'm not really scared of people remembering to build scvs or getting their build orders right. | ||
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Eleaven
772 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:27 Charger wrote: I'm not arguing against that at all, in fact I have been agreeing with people who have this belief. It does change the experience of the game, which is against the TOS. My only argument in this thread has been defending it from idiots who compare this to something like a maphack or other actual hacks that can be detected and can get someone banned. It is an image on a computer screen popping up every x seconds and is far from a hack. I think this could be a really amazing training tool for lower level players and I would hate for people to scare off some of the lower league players who might want to train with this because people who have no idea how computers actually work tell them they will get banned. You and I probably share a lot of the same opinions on the morality of the subject but come on, it's not a hack just like setting an audio alarm isn't a hack and the idiots who cry for bans have no idea what they are talking about. Echoes my sentiments too. In a "perfect world" Ladder environment things like this would never be used. But at the same time, if the overall competitive level of the player base can increase faster due to more efficient learning? I'm all for that! In a time where we have maphackers going unbanned for months on end, and even drophacks hitting the ladder multiple times per year.. a simple image opening training tool shouldn't really cause any backlash. If 10 players use this and it helps them increase in skill, that's a win for the community. | ||
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
On July 16 2011 00:27 Eleaven wrote: Funny.. germans being concerned about "cheating".. baseless accusations and not knowing what your talking about? Gogogo! Come on, at least understand how something works before bashing it and demanding thread closurers or bans etc. Opening an image isn't a hack. Ladder is practice tool. We ex Broodwar players to refer to anything that gives you an unfair advantage as a hack. Yes, that might be a loose usage of the term. More satisfied if I call it a tool that gives you an unfair advantage over your opponent? Edit: ROFL, are you REALLY that fucking stupid? If 10 players use this and it helps them increase in skill, that's a win for the community. => If 10 players used a maphack and it helped them to increase in skill that was a total win for the community as well by your book. G T F O . User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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