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GSL sends MVP, DongRaeGu to MLG Anaheim - Page 67
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Boof
Canada77 Posts
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AngelusDeLetum
United States98 Posts
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:33 AngelusDeLetum wrote: Isn't it quite apparent that mr. Chae is using mlg as a way to elevate some of the players he knows can compete in code s or a? We've all heard how rediculous code b is and also how many fans drg has... Smart play Yeah, but I don't know if it's so good. One big thing about GSL and MLG is that they are not based on invites. That makes them a whole lot more serious/professional than other tournaments. There's nothing wrong with them agreeing to use each other's tournament as a qualifier. That's still perfectly objective. And the people MLG sends to GSL are picked totally objectively. But I would really, really like it if the people GSL sends were picked objectively too. It seems obvious that people are being chosen to go based on their fan base, which makes the tournaments (slightly) less legitimate. It is not good if the GSL staff can say "Oh, player X didn't qualify, and we know having him would help our ratings, so let's give him some sort of easier way to qualify that most people don't get access to." The people sent should be those with the highest GSL points of the ones who want to go (or maybe exclude those who have already gone or something, but something objective). | ||
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 13 2011 03:48 rysecake wrote: I've only seen ridiculous marine splits from him and mkp. For some reason other top korean terrans like bomber and nada don't have that kind of splitting sC has some amazing marine splits. They really showed in his series against Nestea in last GSL and against DRG in the LG tournamnet. I would put his splits on par with MKP and MVP. | ||
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SovSov
United States755 Posts
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Copymizer
Denmark2081 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On July 13 2011 07:17 SovSov wrote: There are so many undeserving foreigner players in the MLG invites. The more Koreans we get to replace them--the better. none of the foreigners are invites... | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:33 AngelusDeLetum wrote: Isn't it quite apparent that mr. Chae is using mlg as a way to elevate some of the players he knows can compete in code s or a? We've all heard how rediculous code b is and also how many fans drg has... Smart play GSL finals being on the same day as MLG also complicates things, and means that GSL can't send anyone who is still in the GSL. | ||
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Unab0mber
Poland8 Posts
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Mechwarrior
United States76 Posts
This is going to be sick. | ||
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Norava
United States23 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:50 aristarchus wrote: Yeah, but I don't know if it's so good. One big thing about GSL and MLG is that they are not based on invites. That makes them a whole lot more serious/professional than other tournaments. There's nothing wrong with them agreeing to use each other's tournament as a qualifier. That's still perfectly objective. And the people MLG sends to GSL are picked totally objectively. But I would really, really like it if the people GSL sends were picked objectively too. It seems obvious that people are being chosen to go based on their fan base, which makes the tournaments (slightly) less legitimate. It is not good if the GSL staff can say "Oh, player X didn't qualify, and we know having him would help our ratings, so let's give him some sort of easier way to qualify that most people don't get access to." The people sent should be those with the highest GSL points of the ones who want to go (or maybe exclude those who have already gone or something, but something objective). Less legitimate how exactly? The players have proven they deserve it be there and still these "fan favorites" have a chance to win the whole thing. Would you prefer to send their full code S load? | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:52 jmbthirteen wrote: sC has some amazing marine splits. They really showed in his series against Nestea in last GSL and against DRG in the LG tournamnet. I would put his splits on par with MKP and MVP. the best marine micro i've ever seen- it's actually several levels above "just" splitting. respect the korean terrans, but happy micro > all  | ||
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Chicane
United States7875 Posts
On July 13 2011 09:16 Norava wrote: Another domestic tournament stolen by the koreans. You say that as if the Koreans are given an auto win, as opposed to having practiced more and simply earn the win. There are still foreigners who can put up a fight. While I understand how it can be disappointing to have koreans win for some people... you don't have to word it THAT way. You are clearly trying to put them in a bad light. | ||
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
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Szubie
United Kingdom294 Posts
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On July 13 2011 09:26 Assirra wrote: Less legitimate how exactly? The players have proven they deserve it be there and still these "fan favorites" have a chance to win the whole thing. Would you prefer to send their full code S load? Less legitimate in that it's not a fair system in which everyone has equal chance of success, with advantage only gained by being better at the game. In what way have they "proven they deserve to be there"? They've proven that they're good players, no doubt there, but lots of other people have proven that they're better players. With the exception of MVP, the players they're sending have achieved substantially less success than many other people they could have sent instead. If they just said "Yeah, Boxer lost his games, but we're going to put him back in code A anyway because it's good for ratings" that would get a very angry reaction from a lot of people, and I think that'd be justified. But what they're doing here is just a much less severe version of the same thing. They're saying "Because we'll get more ratings if Boxer and DRG are in code A (and will give MLG good ratings too) we're going to give them an advantage in the qualification process." So yeah, I would prefer that if the code S players want to go, they send them. (Or if they want to adopt an official policy saying because it's essentially a code S qualification tournament you can't go if you're already in code S, then fine, but send the top code A people who want to go.) | ||
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Devolved
United States2753 Posts
On July 13 2011 09:26 Assirra wrote: Less legitimate how exactly? The players have proven they deserve it be there and still these "fan favorites" have a chance to win the whole thing. Would you prefer to send their full code S load? Less legitimate because they didn't have to earn their spot for group play, unlike everyone else. To get into GSL Code S you have to perform well at MLG and win it, to get into group play at MLG a Korean has to lose and drop out of Code S, then if he's popular he may get invited to MLG. If it was truly going to be legit, then the Koreans would play from the open bracket until they have earned enough MLG points to be seeded into group play or only the people that perform well in Code S should be sent to MLG group play. | ||
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aristarchus
United States652 Posts
On July 13 2011 10:23 Devolved wrote: Less legitimate because they didn't have to earn their spot for group play, unlike everyone else. To get into GSL Code S you have to perform well at MLG and win it, to get into group play at MLG a Korean has to lose and drop out of Code S, then if he's popular he may get invited to MLG. If it was truly going to be legit, then the Koreans would play from the open bracket until they have earned enough MLG points to be seeded into group play. I don't have a problem with the getting into the group stage automatically. I just want it to come from objective performance in the GSL, rather than arbitrary invites based on fan base and so forth. | ||
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