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1st place Gm drop hacker not banned but demoted?

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A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 21:55:36
July 05 2011 21:46 GMT
#1
Hey i was looking through the gm league and saw that the 1st place drop hacker xxTheStienxx was no longer there and select was once again 1st place. I was happy and thought he got banned but someone linked me his profile and said he was not banned but demoted to bronze... it is unlike blizzard to do something like this
thoughts?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1993094/1/xxTheSteinxx/

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as you can see they both have the same name and same amount of wins which is 221. He was once in grandmaster and now in bronze unless theres a guy with the same amount of wins + same name but is in bronze and same icon... which is highly unlikely.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
July 05 2011 21:48 GMT
#2
Woah apples to apples looks like you have stumbled upon some interesting stuff. That's really wierd. You sure its the same dude? like Character code and stuff?
ponyo.848
quRax
Profile Joined January 2011
Korea (South)264 Posts
July 05 2011 21:49 GMT
#3
Blizzard is just trolling him. If he tries to get promoted he will probably get banned or something
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Secret05
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
July 05 2011 21:50 GMT
#4
maybe they haven't figured out exactly how to handle the specific hack he's using so for the time being they just demoted him to bronze
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Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
July 05 2011 21:50 GMT
#5
Might be Blizzard is investigating his case more closely, to make absolutely sure he's hacking and maybe how it works?

The demotion makes it so that there isn't a blatant hacker in the GM at least.
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
July 05 2011 21:51 GMT
#6
That is just about the strangest thing I've heard today... I would really like to know the logic behind this. He could easily just drop-hack his way out of bronze again... I guess it would likely have come with a stern warning, but he should have been banned PERIOD. Not a fan of second chances.

The only thing I could see coming from this is him buying a new account so he doesn't have to ladder out of bronze? So Blizzard makes $60? Pure speculation.
freddievercetti
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
224 Posts
July 05 2011 21:51 GMT
#7
Yeah its the same dude. He had about that much wins in those leagues.
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 21:53:03
July 05 2011 21:51 GMT
#8
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!
laweinhander
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7 Posts
July 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#9
I checked out his profile, all his wins (that I looked at) were in under 2 minutes. There is no way he was not cheating in some way.
Iamyournoob
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany595 Posts
July 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#10
I believe they will let him suffer a bit before banning his account
Saicam
Profile Joined July 2011
262 Posts
July 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#11
lol blizz ftw!! troll those fuckin cunts
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
July 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#12
I think it's unlikely that it is the same player. If you look at the win to point ratio he has 221 wins with 1300 something points, which i believe translates to about 50% winrate. That being said, he's only getting +5 points for a win and -20 for a loss, so I dunno what the deal is.
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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
July 05 2011 21:52 GMT
#13
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.

Wow awesome. Their accounts probably are banned?
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stafu
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1196 Posts
July 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#14
Maybe his account is banned, he just can't be removed from the ladder system until ladder lock is over, and hence moved to bronze?

Until he actually plays another game, I'd just assume he is banned.
Calm
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada380 Posts
July 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#15
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.


LOL

Well played Blizz. Sorry I doubted you.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
July 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#16
they should just make all the hackers vs each other in that bronze league.
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Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
July 05 2011 21:53 GMT
#17
On July 06 2011 06:52 Phayze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.

Wow awesome. Their accounts probably are banned?


One can hope. Blizz is up to something there anyway.
Bandino
Profile Joined August 2010
United States342 Posts
July 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#18
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.


So that's what they were up to, well played.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 21:55:55
July 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#19
Maybe they don't want to punish the guy with complete ban and invalid ID, so they just demote him to bronze; it could be like a probation period. /edit: well, applies to the rest too
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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#20
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.



What would be really trolling is if they were given mmr allow that they can only play each other and their mmr is so low that it's nearly impossible to play enough games to raise their mmr to play real people.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
July 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#21
My guess would be that it's more difficult than you might think to simply delete those accounts outright, so they're banning them and collecting them into one division together. Possibly they're doing this as part of a process that will result in those accounts being deleted, possibly they'll just be left there as a warning to others.
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qqK
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany282 Posts
July 05 2011 21:55 GMT
#22
It's all about who has the fastest drophack now.
videogames
Profile Joined May 2011
United States103 Posts
July 05 2011 21:55 GMT
#23
He still has 221 wins so he hasn't played since he was demoted... maybe he's temp banned or something
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Imerej
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada291 Posts
July 05 2011 21:56 GMT
#24
Remember that the ladder is locked as of today
R0YAL
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1768 Posts
July 05 2011 21:57 GMT
#25
On July 06 2011 06:53 DreamChaser wrote:
they should just make all the hackers vs each other in that bronze league.

Haha that'd be hilarious if the drop hackers could only ladder vs other drop hackers. I wish I could see the look on their faces if that was the case.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
nitdkim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
1264 Posts
July 05 2011 21:58 GMT
#26
they should only be able to match against other drophackers
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
July 05 2011 21:59 GMT
#27
I like the idea someone else had of just nuking their MMR somehow (either ridiculously high or low, not sure how the math would work out) so that they would have to wait indefinitely in the queue or be paired against other identified hackers (so they could have a hack-off lol).
Vashx
Profile Joined June 2011
United States24 Posts
July 05 2011 22:00 GMT
#28
I think it's the same dude...he has the same amount of achievement points
Good ole' Deezer
SDream
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Brazil896 Posts
July 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#29
I doubt they aren't banned. Blizzard made them all bronze because it will be in their season 2 history forever that they failed. Banned accounts aren't deleted, they will stay there foreve, as bronzes =)
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
July 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#30
If a Drop hacker plays another Drop hacker. And they drop hack each other.........

Blizz should make it so they only can play each other, but their wins don't count EVER!!!! MUAHAHA
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Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
July 05 2011 22:01 GMT
#31
Sounds like they're collecting the hackers in one bronze division because they don't want to completely eliminate the accounts from the database (pending further analysis or something).
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 05 2011 22:04 GMT
#32
Maybe they should do something like "secretly" change the password of drophacking accounts. If you forget your password or need it reset, don't you need to do something like mail a picture of your drivers license or something?
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Flameling
Profile Joined July 2010
United States413 Posts
July 05 2011 22:06 GMT
#33
On July 06 2011 07:04 Emporio wrote:
Maybe they should do something like "secretly" change the password of drophacking accounts. If you forget your password or need it reset, don't you need to do something like mail a picture of your drivers license or something?


.... ridiculous. What if the person doesn't have a driver's license?
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
July 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#34
On the one hand, I love it--talk about being placed in the virtual stocks!

On the other hand, I hope Blizz has done something to either prevent them from laddering or ensure that they only ladder against each other--people in the bronze league deserve protection from drop-hackers too!

Maybe Blizz is thinking the ladder lock will dissuade them from hacking. Or maybe they're also fixing the hack.
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heartjc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States37 Posts
July 05 2011 22:07 GMT
#35
Woah blizzard trolling never thought I'd see the day
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gm.tOSS
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany898 Posts
July 05 2011 22:10 GMT
#36
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!

Gold! Made my day ^^ Blizz be trollin
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
July 05 2011 22:11 GMT
#37
Well played Blizzard, well played. If only you did this a lot sooner, could have saved a lot of frustration. Rainbow yelling "what the fuck" a few times comes to mind among many others.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
July 05 2011 22:11 GMT
#38
--- Nuked ---
VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
July 05 2011 22:11 GMT
#39
he had a good run.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
July 05 2011 22:12 GMT
#40
On July 06 2011 07:06 Flameling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 07:04 Emporio wrote:
Maybe they should do something like "secretly" change the password of drophacking accounts. If you forget your password or need it reset, don't you need to do something like mail a picture of your drivers license or something?


.... ridiculous. What if the person doesn't have a driver's license?


They already do this for WoW. You need to send in some kind of identification, a photocopy of a drivers license works. A birth certificate works too.
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Initiative
Profile Joined July 2011
United States131 Posts
July 05 2011 22:13 GMT
#41
2 people who drophacked me over the weekend are still in masters, so they havent done this to all the hackers.
ectonym
Profile Joined July 2010
United States147 Posts
July 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#42
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


I call shenanigans. I checked this division's members against 100% of the North American hackers, both confirmed and suspected, written the TL post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975

...and None of the names there matched up. Is there another Hacker database you're checking against? Source?
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ShatterZer0
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1843 Posts
July 05 2011 22:16 GMT
#43
Question is, do they still have the same MMR?
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Azide
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada566 Posts
July 05 2011 22:17 GMT
#44
On July 06 2011 07:16 ectonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


I call shenanigans. I checked this division's members against 100% of the North American hackers, both confirmed and suspected, written the TL post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975

...and None of the names there matched up. Is there another Hacker database you're checking against? Source?


no he's right. IBJessica or w/e and Rapdawg also drop hackers as well as a few others im sure
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zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
July 05 2011 22:19 GMT
#45
On July 06 2011 06:57 R0YAL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:53 DreamChaser wrote:
they should just make all the hackers vs each other in that bronze league.

Haha that'd be hilarious if the drop hackers could only ladder vs other drop hackers. I wish I could see the look on their faces if that was the case.

I vote to just make a new league.... the........erm

synthetic league
or
fools gold league

for the drop hackers.

:D?
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EggYsc2
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
620 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:20:34
July 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#46
im sure you can never get out of that division
FOREVERR BRONZE
a bronze account is as good as no account.
Gotta get a new one
ectonym
Profile Joined July 2010
United States147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:22:51
July 05 2011 22:20 GMT
#47
On July 06 2011 07:17 Azide wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 07:16 ectonym wrote:
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


I call shenanigans. I checked this division's members against 100% of the North American hackers, both confirmed and suspected, written the TL post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975

...and None of the names there matched up. Is there another Hacker database you're checking against? Source?


no he's right. IBJessica or w/e and Rapdawg also drop hackers as well as a few others im sure


hm, ok... Is the hacker database for season 2 just not including IBJessica and Rapdawg?

edit: I guess the database is is not updated much. Are there any other hacker databases out there?

it should be called the Infinite Shame League
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hdan
Profile Joined June 2011
27 Posts
July 05 2011 22:22 GMT
#48
He probably is already banned. His wins certainly haven't gone up since blizz demoted as your picture shows, so he probably got demoted and banned.
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:24:07
July 05 2011 22:23 GMT
#49
On July 06 2011 07:19 zhurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:57 R0YAL wrote:
On July 06 2011 06:53 DreamChaser wrote:
they should just make all the hackers vs each other in that bronze league.

Haha that'd be hilarious if the drop hackers could only ladder vs other drop hackers. I wish I could see the look on their faces if that was the case.

I vote to just make a new league.... the........erm

synthetic league
or
fools gold league

for the drop hackers.

:D?


Cubic Zirconium League.

Edit: Or, GrandFather League.
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-eXalt
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States462 Posts
July 05 2011 22:25 GMT
#50
hahaha blizz trolling it up
sTsCompleted
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States380 Posts
July 05 2011 22:25 GMT
#51
ahaha it's totally blizz trolling him :D

Make it so that whenever he wins a game under 5 min he can't get points or MMR or something ;P
apm66
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada943 Posts
July 05 2011 22:28 GMT
#52
On July 06 2011 07:25 Completley wrote:
ahaha it's totally blizz trolling him :D

Make it so that whenever he wins a game under 5 min he can't get points or MMR or something ;P


even better, Forever no MMR! :D
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Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
July 05 2011 22:32 GMT
#53
FOREVER BRONZE

nice job blizzard <3
WArped
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom4845 Posts
July 05 2011 22:33 GMT
#54
A bronze league for all drop hackers, this is priceless.
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
July 05 2011 22:33 GMT
#55
On July 06 2011 06:52 Iamyournoob wrote:
I believe they will let him suffer a bit before banning his account


^lolol i think this man is right. blizz be trolling!!!!!!
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
July 05 2011 22:34 GMT
#56
On July 06 2011 07:16 ectonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


I call shenanigans. I checked this division's members against 100% of the North American hackers, both confirmed and suspected, written the TL post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975

...and None of the names there matched up. Is there another Hacker database you're checking against? Source?


That TL list doesn't have any of the current drophackers in it.
A-p-p-l-e-s
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada314 Posts
July 05 2011 22:37 GMT
#57
they can still play custom games on it though... they can probably hack in that too like maphack etc. they should make it so that you only play noobs, never league up and cant play customs
L3gendary
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1470 Posts
July 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#58
On July 06 2011 07:16 ectonym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


I call shenanigans. I checked this division's members against 100% of the North American hackers, both confirmed and suspected, written the TL post here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=222975

...and None of the names there matched up. Is there another Hacker database you're checking against? Source?


A lot of them changed their names. This xxTheSteinxx guy went by NowgetthefuckUp or something like that.
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Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 05 2011 22:40 GMT
#59
They should bring back copper league for them
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Bloodyrock
Profile Joined March 2010
Ireland150 Posts
July 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#60
what if those frop hackers meet each other on ladder LOL
READYALREADY
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
July 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#61
This is genius.

The guy is bound to do some more drophacking, only this time Blizzard will be able to monitor his account more closely and as it happens. If they banned him, they'd have one less specimen to examine.

Either that or they're just trolling him.
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
July 05 2011 22:42 GMT
#62
That would be amazing if blizzard gave him a negative bonus pool that was like 1,000,000. That way every time he played a match even if he won he would lose ladder points. Good on blizzard to shut this guy down.
BoxedLunch
Profile Joined January 2011
United States387 Posts
July 05 2011 22:43 GMT
#63
this is awesome. all the drop hackers in their own league, just for pieces of shit like them?

it's like SC2 purgatory.
In theory, practice and theory are the same. In practice, they are not
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 22:45:00
July 05 2011 22:44 GMT
#64
On July 06 2011 07:42 Bloodyrock wrote:
what if those frop hackers meet each other on ladder LOL

Each of them has a couple losses among 300+ games played. Those must come from other drophackers. Quite hilarious if you think about it.

"Oh shi- it's you!"


On July 06 2011 07:43 BoxedLunch wrote:
this is awesome. all the drop hackers in their own league, just for pieces of shit like them?

it's like SC2 purgatory.

Not all of them, but some.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
July 05 2011 22:45 GMT
#65
On July 06 2011 07:42 TheLOLas wrote:
That would be amazing if blizzard gave him a negative bonus pool that was like 1,000,000. That way every time he played a match even if he won he would lose ladder points. Good on blizzard to shut this guy down.


Ya I think that would be awesome, and they can also only get matched up against other drop hackers.. so basically they waste a bunch of time to lose points regardless of if they use their drop hack first.
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1600 Posts
July 05 2011 22:47 GMT
#66
On July 06 2011 06:46 A-p-p-l-e-s wrote:
Hey i was looking through the gm league and saw that the 1st place drop hacker xxTheStienxx was no longer there and select was once again 1st place. I was happy and thought he got banned but someone linked me his profile and said he was not banned but demoted to bronze... it is unlike blizzard to do something like this
thoughts?
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/1993094/1/xxTheSteinxx/

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as you can see they both have the same name and same amount of wins which is 221. He was once in grandmaster and now in bronze unless theres a guy with the same amount of wins + same name but is in bronze and same icon... which is highly unlikely.


Blizzard can infer he drop hacks (and he does I'm not denying it), but when they ban accounts they use a program to factually know that he used that hack.
Hashmeister
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany238 Posts
July 05 2011 22:48 GMT
#67
I think it's pretty strange that they didnt ban him. There are more and more drop hackers and it's just so frustrating losing to that. I hope all the drophackers just get banned!!
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
July 05 2011 22:49 GMT
#68
On July 06 2011 06:53 stafu wrote:
Maybe his account is banned, he just can't be removed from the ladder system until ladder lock is over, and hence moved to bronze?

Until he actually plays another game, I'd just assume he is banned.



probably they have never removed any one from the ladder whether they are banned or not... for the longest time they just let banned hackers sit where they were on the ladder, and there was a blue post saying something like, with bonus pool they will be passed up so meh... Maybe moving them to their own division was their solution, since maybe there is some technicality on removing someone from the ladder entirely =/
Shirolol
Profile Joined April 2010
England504 Posts
July 05 2011 22:50 GMT
#69
Wow, awesome job by blizz - can't wait to see what actually happens to them now. Hopefully they are just baiting them all to carry on hacking so they can monitor EXACTLY how it works and stop it!

And to be fair, they are probably dumb enough to continue. Very happy they are starting to show signs of action against hackers.
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Xss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada53 Posts
July 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#70
There is still one at the top of my masters division (valerian kappa).
geno
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1404 Posts
July 05 2011 22:52 GMT
#71
This really is hilarious if Blizzard is tying them together so they end up only drophacking eachother. It does seem a bit out of character to do this instead of just a blanket ban, but if that is what they are doing I love it lol.
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
July 05 2011 22:53 GMT
#72
Interesting method of punishment to take.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
Tegin
Profile Joined November 2010
United States840 Posts
July 05 2011 22:53 GMT
#73
Lol Blizzard messin with him. I'd prefer an all-out ban though!
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
July 05 2011 22:54 GMT
#74
Yea, they definitely didn't demote all DHers. I checked a couple of other profiles. In fact I'm not sure there's any DHers in that bronze division but the obvious GMers (xxSteinxx, LiquidHuk, RAPDAWG). Anyone recognize any other names?
War is a drug.
ForeverSleep
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada920 Posts
July 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#75
they should make their division accessible to see just like GM just do we can see them and laugh at them. Of course, unlike GM, we could also be able to add them to our friend lists and chat to them. Just like a real purgatory
"Life is what happens to you while you’re busy making other plans" - John Lennon
Msr
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)495 Posts
July 05 2011 22:55 GMT
#76
This is terrible news... they don't even tempban public hacks anymore(use to be 30 day ban on first warning and acc closed/reset). Assuming that account will ever be active to ladder it has to still have his gm ell/mmr, so even if he loses a game playing legit he will be in GM. If they reset him to a bronze league mmr/ell then blizzard just went against half the things they ban others for(losing games on purpose to lower ell).

Blizzard has never ever banned a private hacker without them using a public drophack, and there will be many private hacks out, so sadly the ladder will only get worse. Season 3 is going to be a joke unless they learn to do their jobs or hire ladder players to do their job for them.
Xolo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada107 Posts
July 05 2011 22:57 GMT
#77
Blizzard pretty much isn't willing to ban people anymore.

Last time Blizzard did a mass banwave, maphackers received 3 day suspensions.

"Hack your way to #1 in the world? Well here's a slap on the wrist with an account rollback. Now go think about what you've done!"

If Blizzard bans hackers, then those hackers probably won't buy the expansion packs, which means less money for them. The money is more important than the integrity of the game.
Mookiee
Profile Joined June 2011
6 Posts
July 05 2011 22:58 GMT
#78
Simply. They want him to keep playing so they find out how does he do it
dbosworld
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States317 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:00:55
July 05 2011 23:00 GMT
#79
On July 06 2011 07:57 Xolo wrote:
Blizzard pretty much isn't willing to ban people anymore.

Last time Blizzard did a mass banwave, maphackers received 3 day suspensions.

"Hack your way to #1 in the world? Well here's a slap on the wrist with an account rollback. Now go think about what you've done!"

If Blizzard bans hackers, then those hackers probably won't buy the expansion packs, which means less money for them. The money is more important than the integrity of the game.


Reallly? If they banned them, they won't purchase expansions. I don't see the logic. They are aware of what they are doing, I don't think them getting banned will change their mind of whether they wish to purchase a copy or an expansion. Only reason I can think of is that they are limited in funds.
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BinxyBrown
Profile Joined December 2010
United States230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:01:12
July 05 2011 23:00 GMT
#80
The number of people that would quit the game due to rampant hacking is MUCH HIGHER than the number of people hacking, I am sure that their policy is a little different in wow, especially in PVE hacking because its subscriber based, but to think they wouldn't ban hackers in SC2 is ridiculous.

I am sure that blizzard just had to move the hackers out of the divisions they had hacked into to before banning the account, especially since they otherwise would be taking up top slots.
Banelings are like Ice Climbers if they grab you... your dead.
SC2Epic
Profile Joined June 2011
United States25 Posts
July 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#81
I think it's kinda funny what blizz did with the all drophacker leauge, but it would have been much better to just ban all of them.
Newtonz
Profile Joined October 2010
United States141 Posts
July 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#82
Anyone know the name of the actual division? I'm sure that has some trolling involved with it as well.
rasmuslorentzen
Profile Joined June 2010
Denmark19 Posts
July 05 2011 23:01 GMT
#83

From battle.net:

We are aware of a drop hack currently being used in StarCraft II and have banned a number of players for using it. Anyone found using drop hacks or other cheats to increase standing in the ladder or gain an unfair advantage in individual games will be banned. We take the integrity of online play on Battle.net very seriously and will take swift action to punish the use of any illegal cheats or hacks.

Link

I've also been reading on some of the hacker-forums, and some people there have been banned as well. Looks like Blizzard is caring nontheless. To bad many of them did only use the hack with their trail accounts.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 05 2011 23:03 GMT
#84
Good riddance and wp by Blizzard.
I had a good night of sleep.
itsben
Profile Joined July 2010
435 Posts
July 05 2011 23:04 GMT
#85
On July 06 2011 08:01 rasmuslorentzen wrote:
Show nested quote +

From battle.net:

We are aware of a drop hack currently being used in StarCraft II and have banned a number of players for using it. Anyone found using drop hacks or other cheats to increase standing in the ladder or gain an unfair advantage in individual games will be banned. We take the integrity of online play on Battle.net very seriously and will take swift action to punish the use of any illegal cheats or hacks.

Link

I've also been reading on some of the hacker-forums, and some people there have been banned as well. Looks like Blizzard is caring nontheless. To bad many of them did only use the hack with their trail accounts.


I like how they said "swift actions"
.Aar
Profile Joined September 2010
2177 Posts
July 05 2011 23:04 GMT
#86
On July 06 2011 08:01 Newtonz wrote:
Anyone know the name of the actual division? I'm sure that has some trolling involved with it as well.


It's Zamara X-Ray. Zamara is a Protoss character from one of the books; pretty standard naming convention for a division. I doubt whatever they're using even allows the creation of custom-named divisions, since that capability would never have been conceived to be of any use in development..
now run into the setting sun, and suffer, but don't mess up your hair.
Kyhol
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2575 Posts
July 05 2011 23:07 GMT
#87
lol maybe it's a special league and they can only play eachother haha. I bet they'll have some interesting games.
Wishing you well.
Crossed9
Profile Joined June 2011
50 Posts
July 05 2011 23:07 GMT
#88
I think blizzard is putting them all in special isolated bronze division so they can have fun drop hacking each other ;p. Like a drophacking virus vault haha.
Zerg isn`t supposed to beat protoss
Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
July 05 2011 23:08 GMT
#89
On July 06 2011 08:00 BinxyBrown wrote:
The number of people that would quit the game due to rampant hacking is MUCH HIGHER than the number of people hacking, I am sure that their policy is a little different in wow, especially in PVE hacking because its subscriber based, but to think they wouldn't ban hackers in SC2 is ridiculous.

I am sure that blizzard just had to move the hackers out of the divisions they had hacked into to before banning the account, especially since they otherwise would be taking up top slots.


Yup. Pretty sure they moved them so they could remove as many hackers as possible, letting legit players earn their Season2 ending rankings, then ban the accounts they moved.

The drophackers on that list haven't played any games in the last couple of days, so blizz has probably already banned the accounts. It's just like in WoW, a banned account still exists, it just can't be accessed. No reason to be concerned here, I would imagine these accounts will not be laddering in the future.
Nerski
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1095 Posts
July 05 2011 23:09 GMT
#90
It could simply be that when an account is band it's demoted to bronze and stuck in the 'banned' division so to speak.
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ch4ppi
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany802 Posts
July 05 2011 23:11 GMT
#91
Haha thats why I love Blizzard :D

Much better than just banning them, leave em in Bronze for a time and then ban them
SoraLimit
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada747 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:13:16
July 05 2011 23:11 GMT
#92
On July 06 2011 07:01 SDream wrote:
I doubt they aren't banned. Blizzard made them all bronze because it will be in their season 2 history forever that they failed. Banned accounts aren't deleted, they will stay there foreve, as bronzes =)


^This.

It's kinda of Blizzards way of saying, "you hacked to get to the top? LOL NOPE BRONZE TROLOLOL"
iAmJeffReY
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4262 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:13:41
July 05 2011 23:13 GMT
#93
hahaha the ultimate troll.

Look whos with him
RapDawg
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Chargelot
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
2275 Posts
July 05 2011 23:14 GMT
#94
The division is named after a Protoss preserver.

Zamara was a protoss preserver, a profession open only to those few protoss who have the ability to preserve the memories of all members of their species. She held an extremely dangerous secret.


Go go conspiracy theorists!
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Ryzu
Profile Joined September 2010
United States369 Posts
July 05 2011 23:16 GMT
#95
On July 06 2011 08:14 Chargelot wrote:
The division is named after a Protoss preserver.

Show nested quote +
Zamara was a protoss preserver, a profession open only to those few protoss who have the ability to preserve the memories of all members of their species. She held an extremely dangerous secret.


Go go conspiracy theorists!


Ha! Excellent catch!
neo_sporin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States516 Posts
July 05 2011 23:16 GMT
#96
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


They should have named the division Hacker Mu, Lagmaster Alpha, DROPship Omega or some other witty name to say this is a hacker division
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
July 05 2011 23:18 GMT
#97
If he's truly a hacker they should made a special league called " suxorz " and put him here for life
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
July 05 2011 23:19 GMT
#98
On July 06 2011 08:04 itsben wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 08:01 rasmuslorentzen wrote:

From battle.net:

We are aware of a drop hack currently being used in StarCraft II and have banned a number of players for using it. Anyone found using drop hacks or other cheats to increase standing in the ladder or gain an unfair advantage in individual games will be banned. We take the integrity of online play on Battle.net very seriously and will take swift action to punish the use of any illegal cheats or hacks.

Link

I've also been reading on some of the hacker-forums, and some people there have been banned as well. Looks like Blizzard is caring nontheless. To bad many of them did only use the hack with their trail accounts.


I like how they said "swift actions"
Yeah, that was a funny joke.
I <3 Plexa.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
July 05 2011 23:20 GMT
#99
They should just make a league of Drop-hackers :3
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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
July 05 2011 23:41 GMT
#100
GUYS look at the name of the division:

Zamara X-Ray

X-Ray !!! Makes me think to some sort of map hack x)
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AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-05 23:45:33
July 05 2011 23:43 GMT
#101
In all seriousness, if these guys aren't all perma-banned, I'll be pretty pissed.
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
Mulu731
Profile Joined July 2010
United States99 Posts
July 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#102
I feel like you're giving them too much attention.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#103
Who would win a game b/w 2 drophackers?
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BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
July 05 2011 23:45 GMT
#104
i would like to see the players drop hacking IP banned from all blizzard games. Most of the players DHing are just scrubs who think "achievements" matter and as a result think being #1 on us ladder (no matter what means used to achieve it) is an accomplishment because they are basement dwelling losers that have nothing better to do with their lives. Furthermore, all the accounts used by DHers are trials, further exmplifying how big of "pussies" they truly are, banning every account on every game their ip has logged into would make them go through so much trouble it would be precautionary warning to other toolbags thinking of doing it.
BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
July 05 2011 23:46 GMT
#105
On July 06 2011 08:45 Canucklehead wrote:
Who would win a game b/w 2 drophackers?

whoever drophacks first, no joke, thats why the #1 guy on ladder has 8 losses. $20 says his apm spamming the "drop hack key" was <50.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
July 05 2011 23:49 GMT
#106
On July 06 2011 08:46 BroboCop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 08:45 Canucklehead wrote:
Who would win a game b/w 2 drophackers?

whoever drophacks first, no joke, thats why the #1 guy on ladder has 8 losses. $20 says his apm spamming the "drop hack key" was <50.


Lol well I don't know the process behind drophacking. Guess it comes down to drop hacking apm.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
July 05 2011 23:52 GMT
#107
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!

AMAZING. ^_^
Blizzard, you should host a hacker tournament to see who is the best hacker, and then ban the winner
On a serious note, at least they did something. What would be even more awesome is if it said "you have been demoted to bronze league!" after every game XD
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RobCorso
Profile Joined May 2011
United States111 Posts
July 05 2011 23:55 GMT
#108
oh god they demoted him to my league
loljk
You think it maybe removed him?
Someone should try to find this hack and give it to blizzard so they can see teh nature of it.
We make expand, then defense it-WhiteRa
rickybobby
Profile Joined October 2010
United States405 Posts
July 05 2011 23:58 GMT
#109
i would prefer blizzard to just ban him
gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
July 06 2011 00:39 GMT
#110
I think the best thing blizzard could do is create a second ladder and banish all the drop hackers there. Then they can all try to drop hack each other
hot fuh days
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
July 06 2011 00:41 GMT
#111
I guess you can say, he got the biggest drop of all
Erzz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada184 Posts
July 06 2011 00:47 GMT
#112
On July 06 2011 08:52 TheAwesomeTemplar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!

AMAZING. ^_^
Blizzard, you should host a hacker tournament to see who is the best hacker, and then ban the winner
On a serious note, at least they did something. What would be even more awesome is if it said "you have been demoted to bronze league!" after every game XD


So the SC2 variant of this?

The accounts are probably banned in some way anyway.
Ryder.
Profile Joined January 2011
1117 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 00:51:13
July 06 2011 00:50 GMT
#113
I always believed that whenever they locked any account the account was never deleted; it just stayed where it was and was unable to be used. I assume this is the case, except that they demoted him so that people actually knew they took action. Assuming it is banned after the season lock is finished he wont be able to play his placement so it will be as if his account was deleted anyway.
sick_transit
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States195 Posts
July 06 2011 00:59 GMT
#114
Can anyone confirm whether or not the actual hack has been fixed? Is it still going on?
War is a drug.
asdfjh
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada230 Posts
July 06 2011 01:01 GMT
#115
Imagine if blizz made it so that the droppers could only play against each other...
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
July 06 2011 01:04 GMT
#116
Kick some ass Blizzard.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Sweetness.751
Profile Joined April 2011
United States225 Posts
July 06 2011 01:05 GMT
#117
Its not a second chance guys. Think about. Blizzard wants more information about how he hacks. This is the best way to do it. Let the kid keep playing in Bronze where the games don't really matter and observe. Eventually they will figure out how he does it and ban him then or just never let him be eligible for promotion.
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JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
July 06 2011 01:06 GMT
#118
It would be nice to see this type of player banned within 20 games, not 300.
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YuTz
Profile Joined September 2010
United States119 Posts
July 06 2011 01:07 GMT
#119
I feel sorry for the Bronzies... lol
Old School.....
kinetic_skink
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia125 Posts
July 06 2011 01:13 GMT
#120
It's been confirmed a number of times in the past that accounts don't get deleted when they are banned.

So they have banned everyone they found drop hacking, then demoted the accounts in the top ranks so the season rankings aren't screwed.
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HeisHere
Profile Joined January 2011
34 Posts
July 06 2011 01:13 GMT
#121
On July 06 2011 07:57 Xolo wrote:
Blizzard pretty much isn't willing to ban people anymore.

Last time Blizzard did a mass banwave, maphackers received 3 day suspensions.

"Hack your way to #1 in the world? Well here's a slap on the wrist with an account rollback. Now go think about what you've done!"

If Blizzard bans hackers, then those hackers probably won't buy the expansion packs, which means less money for them. The money is more important than the integrity of the game.


Dude, it's not like everyone hacks... if they ban hackers (or if they do what they are currently doing) there will be more people buying the game (or keep playing it) because the probability of matching up against a hacker will be lower.

Seriously, who wants to play against a hacker? =.=
koonst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States215 Posts
July 06 2011 01:25 GMT
#122
they will reinforce banns of hackers they did that in wc3 during the transition into frozen throne expasion they also had a reinvested interest when they launched wow.. to ban more hackers to show they * care* pr i know but still i noticed . starcraft 2 has 2expasions planned they will keep banning till atleast after a year of legacy of the void has been released.
Joozaf
Profile Joined July 2010
Estonia22 Posts
July 06 2011 01:28 GMT
#123
EgLdrA also got demoted to bronze.
SolidusR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States217 Posts
July 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#124
It was probably a deal of some sort. This guy had to know that people would realize he wasn't for real, he probably just wanted to play with it and show off that he could do it and then turned himself in to Blizzard and told them about the vulnerability. The amount of money he had the ability to save them probably offset the cost of a copy of the game, assuming that is what took place.
avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
July 06 2011 01:30 GMT
#125
lol the hacker bronze league is like hacker hell where they only face each other i'd assume hahahha
Sup
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
July 06 2011 01:31 GMT
#126
As funny as it may be, I'd much prefer the accounts fully banned and completely unusable. In this state they could still play in minor tourneys where a ban list might not be used before being sure all competitors are legitimate.

Additionally, I don't think they should be entitled to play UMS or use their copy of sc2 without purchasing a new one as a bit of a penalty for hacking.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
July 06 2011 01:32 GMT
#127
gg wp blizz
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TranceKuja
Profile Joined May 2011
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 01:34:28
July 06 2011 01:33 GMT
#128
They should get a loss regardless of the match outcome. They should make a new league below bronze and put the hackers there.
Winning
kinetic_skink
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia125 Posts
July 06 2011 01:36 GMT
#129
On July 06 2011 10:31 Jonoman92 wrote:
As funny as it may be, I'd much prefer the accounts fully banned and completely unusable. In this state they could still play in minor tourneys where a ban list might not be used before being sure all competitors are legitimate.

Additionally, I don't think they should be entitled to play UMS or use their copy of sc2 without purchasing a new one as a bit of a penalty for hacking.


They almost certainly ARE banned.

Blizzard have never removed banned accounts. The demotions for bronze would be to remove the accounts from GM league so they don't affect rankings.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 06 2011 01:37 GMT
#130
It would be hilarious if they could only face other hackers in that league. Ultimate trollage.
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
July 06 2011 01:41 GMT
#131
Sounds like Blizzard might be doing what Capcom did for people who disconnect from matches in MvC3
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
July 06 2011 01:43 GMT
#132
Make a cell, throw them in, call it Copper league and put unique maps with lots of destructible rocks in it. Even on their minerals.
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Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
July 06 2011 01:51 GMT
#133
I bet they got some kind of counter-hack in that division where if two drop-hackers play each other it will fry their computers.

Hey, it could happen.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
kaleidoscope
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore2887 Posts
July 06 2011 01:59 GMT
#134
probably blizzard put them in the same league, change their MMR to a whole new unique level (binding all the hackers MMR together), and then let them drop hack against each other lol
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 06 2011 04:01 GMT
#135
gosu troll by blizzard. drop hackers can only play drop hackers =O
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Verator
Profile Joined June 2010
United States283 Posts
July 06 2011 04:04 GMT
#136
blizzard often does not delete banned accounts, they are just banned then sit in limbo forever. Those accounts will just disappear with the reset and that will be it.
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 04:05:14
July 06 2011 04:04 GMT
#137
On July 06 2011 06:52 Phayze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.

Wow awesome. Their accounts probably are banned?

Hopefully they didn't ban them and only match them against other people in that division. See whose drop hack is the best.

Also, did Blizz erase the losses from other players that got drop hacked?
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
July 06 2011 04:06 GMT
#138
what happens when drop hackers "play" each other?
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
July 06 2011 04:11 GMT
#139
On July 06 2011 08:16 neo_sporin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


They should have named the division Hacker Mu, Lagmaster Alpha, DROPship Omega or some other witty name to say this is a hacker division


Yes please!
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
July 06 2011 04:14 GMT
#140
When hackers hack each other:
Hacker 1:
"Hi I'm a drop hacker, I'm going to hack you "
Hacker 2, thinking he is smarter and faster, activates his hack before typing:
"ha ha I hacked you first" he says as his game starts to slow

Hacker 1, feeling his game begin to slow responds:
"well, I guess we will see Who has the best hack!"

they both sit there for a minute, watching their games slow to the point of unplayability.

Hacker 2 begins to type, almost simultaneously with hacker 1:

"G........ . . .. . "


Bottom line is, I think what happens is the person with the best computer/bandwidth wins. Or in this case, Loses, because simply taking part in a hack war is for losers.
demonik187
Profile Joined August 2010
United States575 Posts
July 06 2011 04:14 GMT
#141
Well at least we got some justice today
We march to victory!
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#142
probably sent him to bronze because he might not be the hacker :/ probably he gave out his password to 'i'll help you get to GM if you want'. and as long as they don't ban him, he has incentives to give out info of how people go around hacking probably. and yeah, all in the same bronze division @.@
xd
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#143
He got sent to a special hacker league where they pit against each other and see who has the best drop hack micro.
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AngryFarmer
Profile Joined June 2011
United States560 Posts
July 06 2011 04:16 GMT
#144
Hahaha they should make a banned league where banned people can only play banned people. They should also not inform the hackers that they have been caught. This way people just keep on having hack fights.
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
July 06 2011 04:17 GMT
#145
Blizzard needs to look for more troll punishments.

Forever finding a match, 3-2- players dropped for hackers. Losing points for a win and losing points for a loss.

Blizzard can have a field day having some fun: why ban when you can troll.
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Voltus
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia30 Posts
July 06 2011 04:20 GMT
#146
My personal opinion is that this is the immediate response. Basically Blizzard move ppl on ladders by creating new divisions for people with similar MMR. So essentially all they had to do was to change all the hackers MMR to a similar level ( in this case it would be a minus number) and move them to the same division, then lock that division. ( isolates most of them). I imagine this would free up the GM leagues while the division lock is in place, and it gives them at least 2 weeks to work on a more permanent solution.

I personally stand for Blocking IP's of known hackers.
To people saying they wont do this due to revenue? you don't realize that having hackers in the game will do more damage to revenue than removing them?

how many people left games like counterstrike because of hacks?
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
July 06 2011 04:21 GMT
#147
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


If true, I heartily agree with this move by blizzard. Keeping them locked in bronze for 2 weeks and then banning them, hopefully the patch out the drop hack as well. I want Vibe to get back to the top slot!
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
July 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#148
The bronze league created may just be a way for Blizzard to collect data from these specific accounts into how they hack. That or this new league is a corral before they mass ban the accounts (I'm aware many hackers use guest account passes).
sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
July 06 2011 04:22 GMT
#149
On July 06 2011 13:17 CeriseCherries wrote:
Blizzard needs to look for more troll punishments.

Forever finding a match, 3-2- players dropped for hackers. Losing points for a win and losing points for a loss.

Blizzard can have a field day having some fun: why ban when you can troll.


They should pit them against an AI which drophacks the hackers every game, they are either bound to know whats up or complain, Blizzard should just respond "You have been trolled".
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th2pun1sh3r
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States107 Posts
July 06 2011 05:09 GMT
#150
On July 06 2011 06:55 qqK wrote:
It's all about who has the fastest drophack now.


Its funny you say that because I was actually looking at the build orders of the highest ranked players in GM and I happened to find a drop hacker vs drop hacker game. One of them had the faster drop, lol.
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ArmyyStrongg
Profile Joined September 2010
United States39 Posts
July 06 2011 05:12 GMT
#151
damn thats fucking crazy, ive never been drop hacked but dont look forward to the day i do
cheat till you win
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
July 06 2011 05:14 GMT
#152
I'm going to figure that its a clever way of Blizzard to acquire more information about this guy. It is pretty comical that they put them all in the same division though.
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:16:23
July 06 2011 05:15 GMT
#153
One difficulty is that usually guest accounts are used for the hacking. I wonder if Blizzard keeps track of which guest accounts are connected to which CD keys/game accounts. If so, I further wonder if it would be feasible for them to send out a warning (update EULA) that any account whose guest pass is used for hacking/banned will cause them to be banned for the next season of multiplayer or worse.

These accounts must come from somewhere, I imagine that there are stooges on hacker forums providing their extra guest passes and it would be helpful if they could be dissuaded.
KingofHearts
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Japan562 Posts
July 06 2011 05:16 GMT
#154
putting them in bronze league is quite insulting for real bronze players. i suggest putting them in a league call the cheater's league only made for hackers.
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Jedi Master
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany185 Posts
July 06 2011 05:19 GMT
#155
Why did they not banned this piece of shit? He will hack again... I got dropped so much - don't know if it was hacking all the time, but was most of the time right at the start of the game and I hate these retard-kiddy-hackers.

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Phayze
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2029 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 05:23:10
July 06 2011 05:20 GMT
#156
On July 06 2011 13:20 Voltus wrote:
My personal opinion is that this is the immediate response. Basically Blizzard move ppl on ladders by creating new divisions for people with similar MMR. So essentially all they had to do was to change all the hackers MMR to a similar level ( in this case it would be a minus number) and move them to the same division, then lock that division. ( isolates most of them). I imagine this would free up the GM leagues while the division lock is in place, and it gives them at least 2 weeks to work on a more permanent solution.

I personally stand for Blocking IP's of known hackers.
To people saying they wont do this due to revenue? you don't realize that having hackers in the game will do more damage to revenue than removing them?

how many people left games like counterstrike because of hacks?

You do realize it takes the majority of internet users mere minutes to change their IP right? Banning by IP is one of the most ineffective ways of removing someone from your service. It's not about revenue... It's a nonsensical form of punishment. What happens when the IP banned user resets his modem and gets a new ip? What happens then when a different user is then assigned that IP? what happens when the next 100 people who obtain that IP for a brief period of time try to use the service? Honestly...

The only way to go about it is to permanently ban the account.
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acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
July 06 2011 05:21 GMT
#157
ahahahaha, they should make a drop hacker league now. Drop hacker vs Drop hacker, WHO WILL WIN....only hacks will tell.
Kokujin
Profile Joined July 2010
United States456 Posts
July 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#158
pretty sure that the creation of this thread gives that hacker the 5 seconds of fame that made all that hacking worth it
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 06 2011 05:31 GMT
#159
It's kind of disgusting how many of you don't understand how any of the ladder system works. When Blizzard bans, the account has to stay in the system due to the way MMR works, most likely. We saw this with PiLLaGe and that other drophacker. Any hacker not in GM but banned anyways will stay in their league, frozen with their current ladder stash, simply looking like they stopped playing one day.

The only news here is that they've found some way to forcibly eject people from GM without bonus pool naturally accumulating.
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
July 06 2011 05:39 GMT
#160
On July 06 2011 14:31 aksfjh wrote:
It's kind of disgusting how many of you don't understand how any of the ladder system works. When Blizzard bans, the account has to stay in the system due to the way MMR works, most likely. We saw this with PiLLaGe and that other drophacker. Any hacker not in GM but banned anyways will stay in their league, frozen with their current ladder stash, simply looking like they stopped playing one day.

The only news here is that they've found some way to forcibly eject people from GM without bonus pool naturally accumulating.


Don't forget that removing accounts completely would mess up the match history of those who played against them. Removing a player is almost impossible, they can just lock the account.
Also, in this case they probably moved the drophackers only because they were in Grandmasters, which is used for blizzcon invites, and having drophackers there would mess up the statistics.
fish ()(
Profile Joined September 2010
United States72 Posts
July 06 2011 05:45 GMT
#161
On July 06 2011 06:53 DreamChaser wrote:
they should just make all the hackers vs each other in that bronze league.

put them all in the smae divison and they can only place each other, drop hack vs drop hack who can drop first =D
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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
July 06 2011 05:47 GMT
#162
A drophack league sounds hilarious! A test to see who has the better hardware / internet connection!
Deja Thoris
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa646 Posts
July 06 2011 05:51 GMT
#163
On July 06 2011 14:24 Kokujin wrote:
pretty sure that the creation of this thread gives that hacker the 5 seconds of fame that made all that hacking worth it


Yes, I'm sure he needs the validation of a forum thread to have made it worthwhile!

A drop hacker only league does sounds a like a special kind of hell though. Good job from Blizzard.
zergtat
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Hong Kong853 Posts
July 06 2011 05:51 GMT
#164
this will be the most competitive bronze league I have ever seen! GJ Blizzard!
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Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10364 Posts
July 06 2011 05:54 GMT
#165
haven't thought about it but it seems most likely they are banned but just the way they work the ladder, they show up in bronze
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NoodleFish
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa198 Posts
July 06 2011 05:55 GMT
#166
Here's my conspiracy theory...

Blizzard owns the account! And they dropped it to bronze to see how well their laddering system works. They're trolling us with the drop hax!
Blizzard are spying on us! Quick! Into your bunkers! They only cost 25 minerals anyways
"He accidentally attacked his own nexus with a probe. Then half way through the game, poof! No more nexus. That's gotta suck!"
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
July 06 2011 06:05 GMT
#167
the best name in the hacker division is MrFreeze lol!
banelings
kekstier
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany70 Posts
July 06 2011 06:07 GMT
#168
They will demote HuK and TLO, too, if they share accounts again.
Then they have to drophack there way back to GM.
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
July 06 2011 06:13 GMT
#169
Has drop hacking rate lowered? Anyone run into any other drop hackers?
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Sacro
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway237 Posts
July 06 2011 06:21 GMT
#170
Maybe they are banned, but they don't remove their accounts on the ladder so they just get moved into bronze? if they do that to many at the same time they will generate a new bronze league which would explain it if there are more hackers in the same league...
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
July 06 2011 06:22 GMT
#171
They should re-open copper league and place the hackers in there. So whenever they ladder, they play each other.
Scriptix
Profile Joined December 2010
United States145 Posts
July 06 2011 06:24 GMT
#172
My question is, do they keep the MMR? Cause they may be in bronze but if they keep the same MMR then they will still be playing GMs and stuff. Correct? I might be wrong.
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12238 Posts
July 06 2011 06:31 GMT
#173
On July 06 2011 15:24 Scriptix wrote:
My question is, do they keep the MMR? Cause they may be in bronze but if they keep the same MMR then they will still be playing GMs and stuff. Correct? I might be wrong.


They can't play when they're banned :V
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
July 06 2011 06:40 GMT
#174
On July 06 2011 14:39 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 14:31 aksfjh wrote:
It's kind of disgusting how many of you don't understand how any of the ladder system works. When Blizzard bans, the account has to stay in the system due to the way MMR works, most likely. We saw this with PiLLaGe and that other drophacker. Any hacker not in GM but banned anyways will stay in their league, frozen with their current ladder stash, simply looking like they stopped playing one day.

The only news here is that they've found some way to forcibly eject people from GM without bonus pool naturally accumulating.


Don't forget that removing accounts completely would mess up the match history of those who played against them. Removing a player is almost impossible, they can just lock the account.
Also, in this case they probably moved the drophackers only because they were in Grandmasters, which is used for blizzcon invites, and having drophackers there would mess up the statistics.


Good points. You do have to realize that half the system for gameless demotion is in place for GM, so it was much easier to do as opposed to accounts in other leagues. Visibility probably had something to do with the implementation of a remote expulsion system tacked onto the GM league.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
July 06 2011 06:43 GMT
#175
If there would be drophacker 1st spot at EU server, they should invite him to Blizzard EU Bnet invitational
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m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
July 06 2011 06:48 GMT
#176
On July 06 2011 06:53 Calm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.


LOL

Well played Blizz. Sorry I doubted you.


AHAHAH Bronze is now hacker league!
it does to blue what blue does to you
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
July 06 2011 06:53 GMT
#177
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!

they should all be forced to play eachother. that would be successful troll
Mayor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States472 Posts
July 06 2011 06:55 GMT
#178
You know, I always thought Blizzard was handling this situation poorly, but you know what -- this is hilarious. Blizz trolling. :D
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tredogz
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada170 Posts
July 06 2011 07:12 GMT
#179
Why do this?? so brand new players in bronze can get drop hacked now??? real nice
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Bizarro252
Profile Joined January 2011
180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 07:23:49
July 06 2011 07:23 GMT
#180
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!



haha awesome, and the fact the division has the word "x-ray" in it, suggests that they made it to "get a closer look" at these hackers.... I would be curious to see if they are also banned though will be watching their 'games won' to see.....
nonsence
Profile Joined July 2010
United States57 Posts
July 06 2011 07:29 GMT
#181
On July 06 2011 16:12 tredogz wrote:
Why do this?? so brand new players in bronze can get drop hacked now??? real nice


They can't play they are banned. They don't remove banned players from the server until reset so that all database links are valid ie when you click on match history, every game you played even vs a drop hacker is there. They were demoted to bronze so that the gm league didn't have hackers in it, as the gm league is used to tourney invites ect.
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MrClean
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany7 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 07:32:10
July 06 2011 07:30 GMT
#182
I think this is even better than banning him (especially considering they're all in the same division)
because it is very demotivating

edit: oh he can't play. allrighty
ArdentZeal
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany155 Posts
July 06 2011 07:38 GMT
#183
Tin League for banned accounts incoming?
koonst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States215 Posts
July 06 2011 07:47 GMT
#184
the RUST league would be the most awesomest hacker league ever.
Pred8oar
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany281 Posts
July 06 2011 07:52 GMT
#185
Nice to see that happen but i think the damage has already been done
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 08:02:51
July 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#186
On July 06 2011 16:52 Pred8oar wrote:
Nice to see that happen but i think the damage has already been done


How so? Someone won a 1000 $ tournament by drop hacking or what?
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6225 Posts
July 06 2011 08:02 GMT
#187
I bet it's just temporary. I haven't read through the thread, it's likely that somebody already mentioned this, but Blizzard tends to ban in waves. They probably just temporarily demoted them to make it their GM league legitimate again. I bet they'll ban them all and all other drop/maphackers detected at the start of season 3.
good vibes only
THEEVILDUKE
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2 Posts
July 06 2011 10:25 GMT
#188
Well now they can just smuf in bronze, still fun.
FOR THE SWARM
IIIOmegaIII
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden319 Posts
July 06 2011 10:29 GMT
#189
id guess his still banned, might just has kept his profile.
arew
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Lithuania1861 Posts
July 06 2011 10:31 GMT
#190
On July 06 2011 06:49 quRax wrote:
Blizzard is just trolling him. If he tries to get promoted he will probably get banned or something


Yeah, I'm pretty much sure that Blizzard is just trolling at him as well :D
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Terminal
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom2109 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 10:36:26
July 06 2011 10:34 GMT
#191
That's pretty funny. I'm sure they won't continue drop hacking in bronze... they'll get bored eventually.

Guess he is still banned though.
tessem
Profile Joined March 2011
United States23 Posts
July 06 2011 11:30 GMT
#192
I think this is more demoralizing because the leagues are locked for two weeks! For two weeks this fuck will not be able to do anything! And plus, if he drop-hacks I'm sure he is a 12 year old kid that thinks he is cool that can't even win in Bronze League.
"More GG, more skill" - White-Ra
Cikop
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland28 Posts
July 06 2011 11:31 GMT
#193
I've heard that in the next patch Blizzard is introducing "The GrandHacker League", maybe this is that bronze division but it doesnt have a new icon yet.
When you are placed in GH you can use whatever cheat you like but you can face only other GH players. After season ends top GH and top GM player will play a showmatch during Blizzcon.

J/K
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
July 06 2011 11:34 GMT
#194
maybe this new bronze league filled with hackers can only queue against other people in the same bronze league ; / some kind of trolling punishment
CravenRaven
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia114 Posts
July 06 2011 11:38 GMT
#195
They should just make it so all the hackers just play each other.
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
July 06 2011 11:39 GMT
#196
I don't think Blizzard is trolling or trying to be humorous. It just makes sense that if they don't delete accounts and they have to move it out of GM, they move it to bronze. Either it is banned or will be banned soon.
ZergOwaR
Profile Joined March 2010
Norway280 Posts
July 06 2011 11:43 GMT
#197
On July 06 2011 06:54 Emporio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, all of the reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division! Blizz trolling.



What would be really trolling is if they were given mmr allow that they can only play each other and their mmr is so low that it's nearly impossible to play enough games to raise their mmr to play real people.


also they might just not want the hazzle of deleting everything about them... so they simply place them in a bronze league (guessing its pretty simple for them to change league) to simply remove them from the top parts of the ladder, then baning them. Perhaps someone that have the time and will to check will see if they actually play more games

the perfect troll would ofc be that they make a little function that drop hack them back every time they try to ladder?
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B4_WheeL
Profile Joined January 2009
Lithuania47 Posts
July 06 2011 11:43 GMT
#198
Mb this is banned division
Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
July 06 2011 11:53 GMT
#199
On July 06 2011 13:20 Voltus wrote:
My personal opinion is that this is the immediate response. Basically Blizzard move ppl on ladders by creating new divisions for people with similar MMR. So essentially all they had to do was to change all the hackers MMR to a similar level ( in this case it would be a minus number) and move them to the same division, then lock that division. ( isolates most of them). I imagine this would free up the GM leagues while the division lock is in place, and it gives them at least 2 weeks to work on a more permanent solution.

I personally stand for Blocking IP's of known hackers.
To people saying they wont do this due to revenue? you don't realize that having hackers in the game will do more damage to revenue than removing them?

how many people left games like counterstrike because of hacks?


Yeah I'm also hoping for Blocking IP, but I still don't think it's what blizzard going to do.
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Lothargr
Profile Joined March 2011
Greece32 Posts
July 06 2011 12:10 GMT
#200
Looks like Bronze is gonna be the toughest league now...

Poor bronze leaguers
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
July 06 2011 12:52 GMT
#201
A fate worse than death, to be forever bronze D:
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lornhas
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3 Posts
July 06 2011 12:57 GMT
#202
It's Sisyphus, forever pushing his rock up to GM#1.

Actually I love the idea that Blizzard is trolling this guy. Don't ban him if he'll keep hacking, and they can keep working on a fix to his hack. Then when they've got the fix....WHAM! OFF WITH HIS HEAD!
KevinIX
Profile Joined October 2009
United States2472 Posts
July 06 2011 13:12 GMT
#203
Getting demoted to bronze seems to be a slap on the wrist. They should be banned.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
July 06 2011 13:14 GMT
#204
Would be awesome that they also got something like -1000000 MMR. Therefore hackers can only play hackers and will never reach a normal level again. Hahaha.
I had a good night of sleep.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 06 2011 13:17 GMT
#205
If he didn't hack to get into GM then he should be out of bronze in a couple games.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
July 06 2011 13:18 GMT
#206
On July 06 2011 22:17 GreEny K wrote:
If he didn't hack to get into GM then he should be out of bronze in a couple games.


Depends, they may have made it so he can't get out of bronze.
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Drake
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany6146 Posts
July 06 2011 13:19 GMT
#207
haha an OWN BRONZE LEAGUE only for drop hackers only possible to play against each other and drop each other out would so lol ^^ they need new icon no bronze but retards or something xD

blizzard trollin 4tw !
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Achaia
Profile Joined July 2010
United States643 Posts
July 06 2011 13:20 GMT
#208
Bahaha so epic!
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te3l
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada126 Posts
July 06 2011 13:23 GMT
#209
I think he may be banned. They just demoted him to get rid of his spot on the GM league so that another player can enter it.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
July 06 2011 13:24 GMT
#210
To be forever bronze a fate worse than perma ban
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Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
July 06 2011 13:40 GMT
#211
It might be so that a lot of them is actually hacked accounts, thus blizzard doesn't ban them just make sure they aren't in GM when the old owners get them back.
cyrex
Profile Joined November 2010
United States24 Posts
July 06 2011 13:41 GMT
#212
Why do you assume he isn't banned? Just because you can see his profile doesn't mean that the account isn't banned . . . With WoW, banned players still have an armory page and show up in their guild roster and friend's list. I would expect they do the same with SC2. Profile and online presence stays while the account is unable to login and play
kYem
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom412 Posts
July 06 2011 13:42 GMT
#213
[image loading]


That's what you get
Hell
dejavue
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany47 Posts
July 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#214
Nice!
I hope all hackers go into one division that is locked, in bronze, all are always rank 99 with 0 points and max bonus pool.
And like in GM, only play each other. Then, hack away.


Also, no second chances, that account needs to stick in there! Would be funny to me at least.
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PDizzle
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark1754 Posts
July 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#215
ohh blizzard, u so crazy
Sn0Board4life27
Profile Joined May 2011
United States32 Posts
July 06 2011 13:49 GMT
#216
As much as I would like for the hackers to have been banned. I believe being forever in bronze is a worth punishment for now... that is if blizz gets their act together and figures out how to stop hackers because it just plain ruins the game.
CodeskyE
Profile Joined January 2011
United States777 Posts
July 06 2011 13:52 GMT
#217
i don't know why blizzard does not perma ban the hackers that are/were caught.


what's the point in bringing these hackers down to bronze? do they want the hackers to destroy the new players in the bronze league in which bronze league players will just quit the game altogether?


if blizzard really wants extra revenue, just ban the hackers so that they'll potentially buy the game again.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
July 06 2011 13:55 GMT
#218
They should bring back the copper league for this.
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
July 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#219
Hahahhaha nice one blizzard!
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
July 06 2011 13:57 GMT
#220
it would be funny if they put all the hackers in one and the same bronze division and they all wind up just playing each other without the possibility to get promoted or play anyone from any other division or league :D
Do you really want chat rooms?
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:04:50
July 06 2011 14:04 GMT
#221
On July 06 2011 22:18 Firesilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 22:17 GreEny K wrote:
If he didn't hack to get into GM then he should be out of bronze in a couple games.


Depends, they may have made it so he can't get out of bronze.


Ya, I didn't think of that... Sucks for him lol.

EDIT: So can he enter bronze tournaments now? For coaching and money?
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Perfi
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Poland349 Posts
July 06 2011 14:07 GMT
#222
If Blizzard has also adjusted their MMR to like -5000 or so, forcing them to only play each other for eternity, this is the GREATEST troll ever, surpassing even Uszat.
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
July 06 2011 14:13 GMT
#223
Banned accounts are still excisting accounts, they do show up in ladders and whatnot however the ability to logon has been removed. I believe the account is actually banned but the profile still simply excists, this is atleast how they take care of their WoW bans, assuming they do a similar approach to their SC2 accounts.
evsky
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom61 Posts
July 06 2011 14:34 GMT
#224
The ladder is locked though right? So noone can be promoted at the moment.
Clbull
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:42:55
July 06 2011 14:35 GMT
#225
On July 06 2011 06:50 Secret05 wrote:
maybe they haven't figured out exactly how to handle the specific hack he's using so for the time being they just demoted him to bronze


Yeah, that's really going to work.

40 more drophacked games and they will soar to Grandmaster League again.

On July 06 2011 23:34 evsky wrote:
The ladder is locked though right? So noone can be promoted at the moment.


I still have serious doubts that the ladder lock will entirely work. Just because they can't soar to GM now doesn't mean they can't disrupt GM play by playing against GM players?
Juddas
Profile Joined January 2011
768 Posts
July 06 2011 14:38 GMT
#226
great now I have to face his drophacking ways
Ashes
Profile Joined January 2011
United States362 Posts
July 06 2011 14:52 GMT
#227
Blizzard should have all the drop hackers in one division and when they search for matches, they should only get another drop hacker of that same division.. haha would be fun :D

Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 14:58:56
July 06 2011 14:57 GMT
#228
On July 06 2011 23:04 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 22:18 Firesilver wrote:
On July 06 2011 22:17 GreEny K wrote:
If he didn't hack to get into GM then he should be out of bronze in a couple games.


Depends, they may have made it so he can't get out of bronze.


Ya, I didn't think of that... Sucks for him lol.

EDIT: So can he enter bronze tournaments now? For coaching and money?

In that case a tournament admin will most likely deal with him.

Edit: Btw, are there even bronze only tournaments for money? :S
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
July 06 2011 15:03 GMT
#229
Well, now that the ladder is locked, he'll end up as Bronze for this ladder season, so it'll appear on his account forever...

And I'd also bet that they can ban someone from playing without him disappearing from ladder...

Anyway, it's pretty funny to me.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
japro
Profile Joined August 2010
172 Posts
July 06 2011 15:15 GMT
#230
I would be really funny if blizzard just set the MMR of all the cheaters to some unreasonably low value so they could only be paired against each other...
Naeroon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada166 Posts
July 06 2011 15:21 GMT
#231
I love how everybody has repeated what everyone else has said for the past ~10 pages.

But seriously this is pretty lols. They probably are banned, but either way, nuking 'em back to the bottom of bronze sure defeated anything they were trying to gain by being in GM league.

I mean think about it, the ladder was close to being locked, maybe there was the possibility that the huge surge in hackers so close to the end of the ladder was because losers out there wanted to completely ruin the state of the Season 2 Ladder, hopefully causing it to be locked in a really shitty state, ie 5 known hackers in the GM league :/
Friday_ger
Profile Joined January 2011
67 Posts
July 06 2011 15:58 GMT
#232
On July 06 2011 06:56 NoobSh1t wrote:
Remember that the ladder is locked as of today


That makes it even better :D
Arlequin
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada41 Posts
July 06 2011 16:04 GMT
#233
When blizzard previously banned account they were never
removed from the ladder ranking as previously said ! So these account
are banned he you look in the account history no recent game played!
+ they demoted them to bronze so they dont stay in the gm league forever
Mr.Kost
Profile Joined April 2011
United States8 Posts
July 06 2011 16:20 GMT
#234
Watch out sooner or later he will be on the Blizzard staff so be nice.
"Shut up imbecile" - EGIdrA
Noxie
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2227 Posts
July 06 2011 16:26 GMT
#235
Forever bronze.

Thx blizz
Trizz
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands1318 Posts
July 06 2011 16:31 GMT
#236
I don't get why people do this, it's a lot of money down the drain by getting banned.
Question, with the ladder lock is it also impossible to get demoted opposed to promoted?
nope
Warpath
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1242 Posts
July 06 2011 16:39 GMT
#237
It doesn't even matter. The accounts are banned it's just standard Blizzard to not entirely delete an account for whatever purpose. The hackers can't play another game on the account and they're locked in at some mysterious bronze league.
MileyCyrus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States285 Posts
July 06 2011 16:49 GMT
#238
i would love to see them locked in bronze forever
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Lephex
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany153 Posts
July 06 2011 16:59 GMT
#239
maybe they reseted his mmr to like zero or so oO
There are three types of people in this world: those who make things happen, those who watch things happen and those who wonder what happened.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
July 06 2011 17:01 GMT
#240
Should be demoted to paperleague.
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
July 06 2011 17:03 GMT
#241
On July 07 2011 01:31 Trizz wrote:
I don't get why people do this, it's a lot of money down the drain by getting banned.
Question, with the ladder lock is it also impossible to get demoted opposed to promoted?

Most of them are probably guest accounts tho.
And no you cannot get promoted or demoted during the ladder lock.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
July 06 2011 17:04 GMT
#242
On July 07 2011 00:58 Friday_ger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:56 NoobSh1t wrote:
Remember that the ladder is locked as of today


That makes it even better :D


For how long? I have 500 bonus points to burn through starting tomorrow...
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
July 06 2011 17:07 GMT
#243
this is what blizz should do to hackers in general, just move their accounts to specially made bronze divisions that can only play EACH OTHER... let them have fun playing other hackers forever

gj blizz on getting a handle on it as soon as staff got back from the holiday
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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 18:05:57
July 06 2011 18:05 GMT
#244
They're most likely banned.. as in they can't log in with those accounts anymore, but the accounts themselves are still there. Blizzard for some reason has been doing their bans this way. During the last season, you would see a Master #1 hacker's account still sitting up there until it eventually sank.

However, with the introduction of locked top 200 GM this season, I guess Blizz took one more step than usual to remove them from GM. I don't know why they just didn't completely remove those accounts, but then I don't really know how that works, so I won't comment further on it.
Pigsquirrel
Profile Joined August 2009
United States615 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-06 18:14:57
July 06 2011 18:14 GMT
#245
Blizz demotes them all to bronze, they all drophack each other, staying at 50% win ratio, while Blizz sits back and figures out how their haxx work. #WINNING!
kaisertoss
Profile Joined January 2011
United States43 Posts
July 06 2011 18:23 GMT
#246
that ladder is full of drop hackers. they all have mad win streaks and are in bronze, makes no sense, these fools are drop hacking, all of them, rapdawg was gm also, hes in the bronze ladder now
hi
Yggydraseal
Profile Joined April 2011
United States285 Posts
July 06 2011 18:25 GMT
#247
On July 07 2011 03:23 kaisertoss wrote:
that ladder is full of drop hackers. they all have mad win streaks and are in bronze, makes no sense, these fools are drop hacking, all of them, rapdawg was gm also, hes in the bronze ladder now


They WERE drop hacking. Blizzard has moved them all into their own "Hacking" group and more than likely, banned those accounts.
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EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
July 06 2011 18:27 GMT
#248
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


Imagine that! One bronze division full of hackers and cheaters WITHOUT a chance to promotion??

If Blizzard pull that off it would be an huge troll^^
aka Wardo
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6565 Posts
July 06 2011 18:28 GMT
#249
On July 07 2011 03:27 EdSlyB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


Imagine that! One bronze division full of hackers and cheaters WITHOUT a chance to promotion??

If Blizzard pull that off it would be an huge troll^^


Hopefully blizz tanked their mmr's as well so GM doesn't get screwed up for next season
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Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
July 06 2011 18:32 GMT
#250
lol blizzard is making a bronze league just for drop hackers lol like 5 of them are in the same division
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
July 06 2011 19:19 GMT
#251
On July 07 2011 03:28 Alejandrisha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 03:27 EdSlyB wrote:
On July 06 2011 06:51 Ryzu wrote:
Actually, if you look closely, a lot of the other reported drop-hackers are in that same Bronze division!


Imagine that! One bronze division full of hackers and cheaters WITHOUT a chance to promotion??

If Blizzard pull that off it would be an huge troll^^


Hopefully blizz tanked their mmr's as well so GM doesn't get screwed up for next season

How is that a concern? If the accounts aren't banned now they will be before next season.
NemesysTV
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1088 Posts
July 06 2011 19:26 GMT
#252
HuK is in that division :O
+ Show Spoiler +
jk probably a fake or actually it is a fake
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45009 Posts
July 06 2011 19:28 GMT
#253
Hahahaha if all the hackers are stuck in the same Bronze division, they should call it The Void.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KillerPlague
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1386 Posts
July 06 2011 19:30 GMT
#254
On July 07 2011 04:26 NemesysTV wrote:
HuK is in that division :O
+ Show Spoiler +
jk probably a fake or actually it is a fake


seeing as how there is no Liquid tag in front of it do you still think it is probably a fake? lulz
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EliteReplay
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Dominican Republic913 Posts
July 06 2011 19:31 GMT
#255
NrGMUTE drop hack me lol, being part of a good Team or they were good and doing this.
here is the replay: NrGMUTE HACK
[image loading]
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zine
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany67 Posts
July 06 2011 20:38 GMT
#256
maybe you just dropped
luckstaz
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
July 06 2011 21:41 GMT
#257
On July 06 2011 06:52 Saicam wrote:
lol blizz ftw!! troll those fuckin cunts


That's right! The C word is back folks, in a big way.
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
July 06 2011 21:47 GMT
#258
On July 07 2011 04:31 EliteReplay wrote:
NrGMUTE drop hack me lol, being part of a good Team or they were good and doing this.
here is the replay: NrGMUTE HACK
[image loading]



you were dropped when you were both on two base, drop hackers don't wait 10 minutes into the game to finally call it quits and get the win, they do it as soon as you get in the game. NrG is a pretty well known clan I'm betting you just got dropped it happens to me sometimes.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
July 06 2011 21:49 GMT
#259
On July 07 2011 06:47 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:31 EliteReplay wrote:
NrGMUTE drop hack me lol, being part of a good Team or they were good and doing this.
here is the replay: NrGMUTE HACK
[image loading]



you were dropped when you were both on two base, drop hackers don't wait 10 minutes into the game to finally call it quits and get the win, they do it as soon as you get in the game. NrG is a pretty well known clan I'm betting you just got dropped it happens to me sometimes.



That's not completely true, the hack can be turned on whenever. There were some people that would play normal and only use the hack when they were losing.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
adrenaLinG
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada676 Posts
July 07 2011 10:26 GMT
#260
As a player in bronze league, I am offended that Blizzard is choosing to put them in the same league as legitimate players like myself. If anything it shows that Blizzard has little respect for less experienced players that are still learning the game.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
July 07 2011 10:30 GMT
#261
On July 07 2011 06:47 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 04:31 EliteReplay wrote:
NrGMUTE drop hack me lol, being part of a good Team or they were good and doing this.
here is the replay: NrGMUTE HACK
[image loading]



you were dropped when you were both on two base, drop hackers don't wait 10 minutes into the game to finally call it quits and get the win, they do it as soon as you get in the game. NrG is a pretty well known clan I'm betting you just got dropped it happens to me sometimes.


Yeah, and that is not what the screen looks like when you get drop hacked.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
July 07 2011 10:37 GMT
#262
Wouldn't it be funny also if they were locked and not allowed to promote also. Haha. Stupid cheaters. Is it really that important to you? If so, why not practice?
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1507 Posts
July 07 2011 10:46 GMT
#263
Seriously guys quit spreading false information

The hackers were demoted so they dont take away any GM spots

If you are banned you still show up on sc2 ranks etc till the season is over
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Zellabris
Profile Joined October 2009
United States43 Posts
July 07 2011 11:07 GMT
#264
Lol this is so gg. Since the season I ending he is locked in bronze. Maybe he will b perpetually locked in bronze
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