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gosuMalicE
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada676 Posts
June 30 2011 22:21 GMT
#121
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


They literally need to flip a switch to fix this, it is not an undetectable hack so all they need to do is turn on warden then boom insta bans, AFAIK they leave it off until there is a large number of people using a hack then turn it on and ban a bunch of people at once that way they get more hackers, this practice has been well documented on the hack sites themselves and they even have indicators to say weather warden is on or off.
I play Protoss, because lets face it, who doesn't love hyper-advanced Egyptian ninja-aliens that kill people with lightsabres attached to both arms?
MorNin
Profile Joined June 2010
United States443 Posts
June 30 2011 22:21 GMT
#122
On July 01 2011 07:18 Huge O wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:14 MorNin wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 Huge O wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:11 MorNin wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 blizzind wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:02 LittLeD wrote:
Now this will be amusing to see how Blizzard deals with it.

This is what killed off War3 competitive ladder, btw.


Yeah i really don't know what blizzard is going to do. War3 ladder is unplayable because of drop hacks and blizzard doesn't do anything about it.


I think not allowing Guests to ladder is an ez fix...


Not being a subscription game may mean Blizzard are more interested in new sales than keeping old customers.


Discouraging people from buying expansions because they do little about hacking seems a little worse... Guests passes should just be allow to custom game and mayb ladder in bronze idk..

As a bronze player I think everyone above me deserves hackers cause alott of higher ranked people believe they are better human being, couldn't they have matches against other guest passes, although proper guests will be given a bad impression if matched up against hackers.


Then no Ladder for guests.. pretty simple
ntvarify
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States331 Posts
June 30 2011 22:22 GMT
#123
On July 01 2011 07:19 BeeNu wrote:
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On July 01 2011 07:15 MrMotionPicture wrote:
Is this just in the top divisions or is it also in say Platinum?
And what about team games?


I would assume this occurs in all leagues and team games too. Of course, the hackers will very quickly rise in ranking due to winning basically every game they play so they'll end up towards the top of the ladder.

Yep all leagues. Some drop hack got cracked and became public .
trancey
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States430 Posts
June 30 2011 22:22 GMT
#124
this happened to me =_=
Powerforged2
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada48 Posts
June 30 2011 22:22 GMT
#125
MAn this suck, 2 days I didn't want to ladder because of the bug, now drop hackers.. god everyday I see myself moving further and further from the game, and it's not because I don't enjoy playing this game
Winnipeg, MB (GO JETS GO!!!)
CodECleaR
Profile Joined November 2010
United States395 Posts
June 30 2011 22:22 GMT
#126
This is honestly pissing me off. I lost 7 games in a row to drop hackers and I had to win 10 games straight afterwards to regain my rank 12 in masters. Take 3 hours to play sc2, have around half of it wasted by people who hack. Grrr.... Blizzard really needs to fix this and i feel even more for the pros who lose about 20 points for a loss.
How do you beat a terran who's hardcore turtling off 3 base? Flip him on his back and walk away."
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 30 2011 22:22 GMT
#127
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


So why doesn't Blizzard fix their code? All we ever asked for is a properly administrated ladder, since they won't let us have LAN. Is it so much to ask for ladder points updating properly, anti-hacks, and decent maps?
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Cataphract
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
June 30 2011 22:23 GMT
#128
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


Pretty much this. It is easy to throw around blame at blizzard for not fixing this, but for all you know they've had a team working on fixing it since it cropped up. Sure, they have been quiet, but they do care or else those people and the fake Idra would not have been banned.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
June 30 2011 22:26 GMT
#129
The way it worked for PiLLaGe and co. was patched. If you look at how this one works, it's a much slower onset. This indicates to me that it has to do the attack in a much more roundabout and inefficient way. I'm sure Blizz will catch it soon, but it's definitely not using the exact same exploit.
Cataphract
Profile Joined August 2010
United States69 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-30 22:27:34
June 30 2011 22:26 GMT
#130
On July 01 2011 07:22 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


So why doesn't Blizzard fix their code? All we ever asked for is a properly administrated ladder, since they won't let us have LAN. Is it so much to ask for ladder points updating properly, anti-hacks, and decent maps?


Just fix the code? If only it was that simple. You have no idea, and neither do I, but there could literally be MILLIONS of lines to go through to find and fix whatever this is messing with.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
June 30 2011 22:27 GMT
#131
On July 01 2011 07:23 Cataphract wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


Pretty much this. It is easy to throw around blame at blizzard for not fixing this, but for all you know they've had a team working on fixing it since it cropped up. Sure, they have been quiet, but they do care or else those people and the fake Idra would not have been banned.

If you know anything about the way blizzard deals with hacks you really shouldn't be holding your breath. Frankly, they either suck at it or more likely don't care.
Syben
Profile Joined October 2010
United States512 Posts
June 30 2011 22:27 GMT
#132
On July 01 2011 07:20 MrMotionPicture wrote:
What would happen if two lag hackers met each other? lol


Its actually happening, idk how it determines who wins but someone always does.
Definitely gonna switch to G, the only race I havent played yet. - TLO
Zirith
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada403 Posts
June 30 2011 22:27 GMT
#133
On July 01 2011 06:50 fadestep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 06:46 Savern101 wrote:
On July 01 2011 06:46 Bear4188 wrote:
On July 01 2011 06:44 Ashworth wrote:
piqliq drop hacking incontol on his stream currently

fucking scum


Given that they've all been impersonating famous players it's likely not the real guy.


How many Piqliqs are there in GM?


You are an idiot.

p.s. worth my inevitable temp ban. such a low level of intelligence deserves no further response than what i gave

User was temp banned for this post.


lol dude, why would you go into detail, just tell him he is an idiot in a pm and provide your personal info so you can talk it out irl. No sense being a hypocritical martyr.

Idiot.


On a slightly more related note, I would really like to know what holes these people are finding to use these hacks.
Artosis: "I don't trust hyenas."
Powerforged2
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada48 Posts
June 30 2011 22:28 GMT
#134
regardless of what happens these people will never go away, we will forever see hackers here and eventually the ladder will become unplayable.
Winnipeg, MB (GO JETS GO!!!)
ZiegFeld
Profile Joined April 2011
351 Posts
June 30 2011 22:30 GMT
#135
On July 01 2011 07:28 Powerforged2 wrote:
regardless of what happens these people will never go away, we will forever see hackers here and eventually the ladder will become unplayable.
It is unplayable. They can be banned, but they are all on trial accounts. Unless an active team is put on banning these trial accounts, or trial accounts are disabled forever, there's no point in playing on ladder.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 30 2011 22:31 GMT
#136
On July 01 2011 07:26 Cataphract wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:22 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


So why doesn't Blizzard fix their code? All we ever asked for is a properly administrated ladder, since they won't let us have LAN. Is it so much to ask for ladder points updating properly, anti-hacks, and decent maps?


Just fix the code? If only it was that simple. You have no idea, and neither do I, but there could literally be MILLIONS of lines to go through to find and fix whatever this is messing with.


You trolling? It took 3 days to fix ladder wins/losses not earning/losing points. If you think this is going to be a harder thing to fix, how long do you think this hack is going to last? My guess is months.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Kamikiri
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1319 Posts
June 30 2011 22:31 GMT
#137
Ran into drop hackers 5 times in a row on ladder was so frustrating, its not so bad losing the points its the fact it sometimes takes 10 minutes of your screen just froze to drop you from the game.
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 30 2011 22:31 GMT
#138
On July 01 2011 07:22 MangoTango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 01 2011 07:20 windsupernova wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:19 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:16 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:13 MangoTango wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:12 Cataphract wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:07 Ghostpvp wrote:
On July 01 2011 07:04 Drowsy wrote:
Blizzard will squash this asap I think.


>Blizzard
>Doing something asap

Don't want to sound like a pessimist but the blizzard track record for acting swiftly isn't good.


The fake Idra has already been banned. Last night on the battle.net forums he was trolling. All his posts are gone, and he is no longer in Grandmasters.


Root problem isn't solved.


And I'm sure it is a more complicated fix than flipping a switch. They would have to reverse-engineer the program to see what it is doing and how to prevent it. Simple fix would be to prevent trial accounts from laddering, but that is hardly a permanent fix.


Remember how this was happening with ReVenGe, ChuckNorris, and PiLLaGe literally months ago? I do.


It doesn´t mean its the same hack, a program can do the same thing and yet work in a different way.


So why doesn't Blizzard fix their code? All we ever asked for is a properly administrated ladder, since they won't let us have LAN. Is it so much to ask for ladder points updating properly, anti-hacks, and decent maps?


Fixing your code its not as trivial as you make it sound. I know you are angry but chances are that they are working on this all we can do is try to discourage this kind of crap and report them
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
June 30 2011 22:34 GMT
#139
Hmmm, so its all guest accounts? A good temp fix would be making a guest pass only ladder. It might screw some people over but at least this will buy time until they patch the hole
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
strength
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States493 Posts
June 30 2011 22:36 GMT
#140
YES THIS HAPPENED TO ME. SOME GUY NAMED REVENGE DID IT TO ME. He just made cannons in his base till i lagged out. Its so annoying T_T
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