• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 06:21
CEST 12:21
KST 19:21
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!33Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45Weekly Cups (Aug 3-9): Protoss get shut out7
StarCraft 2
General
SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16)
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 540 Dodge This The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome Mutation # 538 Media Blackout
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion [Personal Project Share] Terran Defense v0.60 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery! Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro24 Group F BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS Escore Tournament - Season 3
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread The Letting Off Steam Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 5833 users

ESL announces Extreme Masters VI (IEM) - Page 5

Forum Index > SC2 General
661 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 33 34 Next All
This isn't going to turn into another LoL vs (all other games apparently) thread. You can speak your mind about the selection of games but keep it civil.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23346 Posts
June 27 2011 15:43 GMT
#81
On June 27 2011 23:17 TArujo wrote:
i feel so bad they removed Quake Live to replace it with League of Legends -.-

bah atleast we have sc2


I play LoL and I'm still pretty sad. Used to play original quake with my family and watching quake live in between sc was great fun, shame they couldn't keep both.
At least we still have Joe commentating, even if its not on quake any more xD.
zul
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany5427 Posts
June 27 2011 15:43 GMT
#82
kinda sad for the remaining loyal Quake Fans, but I prefer LoL, so it`s all good.
keep it deep! @zulison
D2HLC
Profile Joined February 2011
Cook Islands22 Posts
June 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#83
Isnt it weird that there is only one strategy game (maybe 3 if you count war3 and scbw that are dying) representing the whole genre in the e-sports scene?

I can't understand why no other company had taken the effort to create a competitive RTS before blizzard released SC2. Its a great game and I love it, but I think some competition would make it even better.
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
June 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#84
On June 27 2011 23:27 Atlasy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 23:24 MartinN wrote:
five different continents...mm

europe
asia
north america
south america
Oceania ?

:D Not continents, countries! So i guess Germany, French, Spain, Poland aaanndd i dont know, hopefuly Hungary
Edit: Ukraine


Germany, France, Britain, Sweden, Ukraine is my bet
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
zere
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1287 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 15:47:05
June 27 2011 15:45 GMT
#85
On June 27 2011 23:33 clusen wrote:
I bet there will be atleast one stop in Asia and atleast one stop in America like the last time.
Germany is a pretty safe bet tho, IEM Hannover was amazing with such a huge crowd.


On June 28 2011 00:45 Tidus Mino wrote:
Germany, France, Britain, Sweden, Ukraine is my bet


July 28th-31st = Weekend of ChinaJoy fare (As in 2010 Global Challenge Shanghai)
It's only 5 weeks to go, so we can pretty much count this out.

August 17th - 21st = Week of Gamescom (As in 2010 Global Challenge Cologne)
October 8th - 15th = Week of Gitex Dubai fare (As in 2009 Global Challenge Dubai)
These two look much more promising.

With an NA final (US?) and an EU final (Ukraine again?), we are pretty much up for a surprise for the grand finals. Or maybe NA/EU finals will get switched? Carmac, need more input! :p
ModeratorWenn ich einmal traurig bin, dann trink' ich einen Korn. Wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann trink' ich noch 'nen Korn. Und wenn ich dann noch traurig bin, dann fang' ich an von vorn!
Laids
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom596 Posts
June 27 2011 15:46 GMT
#86
League of legends is a horrible game to spectate, you could never have played QL and understand what was going on, LoL is a good game but it's nowhere near as skillful as QL. Really hope ESL don't start phasing QL out of the other tournies.
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 27 2011 15:47 GMT
#87
On June 28 2011 00:41 CoR wrote:
thank god no more quake rly not understand that game so bad grafic so bad gameplay cant understand it was still in

i am looking for this event and hope that the sc2 part will be as great as mlg or dreamhack

Oh you , sad that you dismiss a game because of the graphics...
The gameplay is one of the best in whatever shooter, really sad they removed it, such a great series of games.
Psyched for sc2, but, again, really sad that I can't watch some QL.
Especially since IEM was one of the few big tournaments that still incorporated it.
It appears I have been chosen.
CarlCaliente
Profile Joined July 2010
53 Posts
June 27 2011 15:50 GMT
#88
So incredibly sad to see quake dropped for league of legends. The times are a changin
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
June 27 2011 15:50 GMT
#89
On June 28 2011 00:46 Laids wrote:
League of legends is a horrible game to spectate, you could never have played QL and understand what was going on, LoL is a good game but it's nowhere near as skillful as QL. Really hope ESL don't start phasing QL out of the other tournies.

Agree here, it might have a giant fanbase, but spectator-wise?
I've never played LoL, but I tried to watch it at DH, I just couldn't follow it at all, no explanation either, which was usually the case with QL.
I just don't see it as a better game for the spectators, or just a better game in general.
But hey, Riot has the money, and we all know what rules the world ;(.
It appears I have been chosen.
Domination
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1177 Posts
June 27 2011 15:51 GMT
#90
On June 28 2011 00:43 Slayer91 wrote:
At least we still have Joe commentating, even if its not on quake any more xD.

Except he can't even get in a word edgewise because his co-commentator never shuts the hell up.
Mazer
Profile Joined April 2008
Canada1086 Posts
June 27 2011 15:51 GMT
#91
I hardly play Quake (and play a lot of LoL) but this is disappointing to say the least. Really surprised they went this route because the two games are so distinct from each other. I enjoyed watching some QL from time to time and IEM was the only time I ever really got to see it since it was so readily available during those weekends.

Oh well, IEM is always awesome. Should be a good season.
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
June 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#92
Quake is much better than CS and LoL. What a shame.
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
June 27 2011 15:52 GMT
#93
Sad to see Quake go - watched a bit while waiting for SC games at IEM NY and really thought it was fun. Much more fun to watch than CS for me.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
babishh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada965 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 16:04:04
June 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#94
On June 28 2011 00:39 sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 00:32 babishh wrote:
On June 28 2011 00:00 zeru wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:59 Velr wrote:
Quake Live has like no community?

I like Quake, watching a stream makes me dizzy... But i actually every time wondered why it actually was still in tournaments with that small of a community? I'm kinda sad that it's gone now but understand it completly.

But why LoL? Is there seriously no better alternative at the moment? WTF?

LoL attracts most viewers. Not sure what else they would or even could pick.

They didn't pick LoL because of the viewers factor, but because Riot (LoL's producer) spends ton of money in advertising and promoting.
Mine is just an assumption, most likely to be the truth.



now heres the real tricky part. Riot isn't spending all that money beacuse they don't have it they're so new as a studio they can't afford a 100k tourney and all the costs of shipping 6 teams and getting a place there at dreamhack. Its activision though blizzard thats bankrolling lol and its probably going to keep getting crazier and crazier as time goes on.

do you mind giving me a link where you got these info? i wasn't aware of it until you posted it.
If this is actually true, i don't get why activision went for supporting LoL instead of HoN, which is a game much more similar to DotA. it could be the F2P, and the fact that the gfx recalls a lot of other F2P mmorpg games (so that the game is much more newcomers friendly), but i still have doubts about the whole thing.

about BLC, i think it is a game that lacks depth. its limit to a 3v3 match, with small maps and extreme fast actions which bring to a confusing exchange of effects and explosions on the screen. at least this is what it felt to me when i watched a bunch of casted games at DHS. but i admit that every game at the beginning feels like it, so it could just be a lack of knowledge by my side.
twitch.tv/babishh
MinoMino
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway1103 Posts
June 27 2011 15:54 GMT
#95
Well fuck. I was expecting QL to go away, but I was hoping I was wrong. DH viewers were so low.

God damn it, Quake's dying.
Blah.
Grebliv
Profile Joined May 2006
Iceland800 Posts
June 27 2011 16:02 GMT
#96
No QL sucks so bad, I used to find cs and cod okay to watch while i still played/followed it but as is Quake is the only fps i can really watch.

On top of that i don't think i've lasted more than a few min on any lol/dota/hon stream or whatever, it's fun to silly around in but as a spectator sport it makes about as much sense as wow imo.

Lol numbers at DH will have skyrocketed even if it's "just a link " from their game client. Imagine all the bronzies who'd watch sc2 there if it got linked ingame. ~94% of sc2 doesn't know wtf tl.net is let alone follow it, same for quake (and it's respective community site(s)). It's actually really weird they don't do it for more games, that is add a really accessible stream link to their game menu for high profile tourneys.
ESV Mapmaking!
FenneK
Profile Joined November 2010
France1231 Posts
June 27 2011 16:03 GMT
#97
QL for LoL seems like a bad trade

but cool tourney otherwise
good luck have batman
XothermeK
Profile Joined May 2010
United Arab Emirates245 Posts
June 27 2011 16:08 GMT
#98
Carmac, please bring IEM to Dubai! We've got a serious SC2 community down here! :D
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
June 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#99
I'd usually watch Quake in addition to SC2 during IEM.

Guess I'll just be watching SC2 this time around. A shame.
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4769 Posts
June 27 2011 16:09 GMT
#100
There is so much misinformation concerning LoL, even in this thread. You guys should try it out before criticizing. And yeah, game gets 200k viewers because its terrible from spectator point of view....that makes sens yes?
Pathetic Greta hater.
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 32 33 34 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 39m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
EnDerr 23
Trap 15
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 4235
Killer 1296
Jaedong 938
BeSt 618
actioN 614
firebathero 474
Larva 375
Horang2 251
Mini 244
Soulkey 180
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 172
PianO 137
HiyA 101
ZZZero.O 82
Pusan 81
Light 75
ZerO 68
Mind 66
Hm[arnc] 41
Last 40
Rush 34
Shine 28
sSak 26
Sharp 25
hero 25
sorry 24
Bale 23
Noble 16
yabsab 12
Sea.KH 12
SilentControl 11
Aegong 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 8
Dota 2
XcaliburYe267
Fuzer 176
Counter-Strike
zeus276
nookyyy 106
edward1
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King154
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor197
Other Games
singsing1030
XaKoH 243
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1785
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH365
• StrangeGG 61
• LUISG 19
• Adnapsc2 8
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1672
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
39m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
23h 39m
Afreeca Starleague
23h 39m
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 5h
GSL
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
5 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-08-27
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL Season 22: Qualifier 2
BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.