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Re-opening. Any derailment of this thread will be punished harshly from here on out. Watch your language folks. - p4NDemik
MacroNcheesE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States508 Posts
June 24 2011 23:53 GMT
#561
I watched some of the NASL but I didn't really enjoy it very much. Gretorp tilts me when he casts. But, I'm glad to see iNcontroL focusing on gaming now. Good luck, buddy!
Doubt is the venom that has paralyzed humanity.
makk
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
June 24 2011 23:55 GMT
#562
Shame, but I guess it's the best for Incontrol.

I hope nasl changes their format next season... like splitting the groups to 4 players and double the amount of groups so each game matters as currently 8 player groups don't keep me interested at all. Looking forward to the finals though.
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
June 24 2011 23:56 GMT
#563
Aw man, NASL was his baby. Hopefully his MLG and other performances improve.
ponyo.848
Greatness
Profile Joined May 2011
United States450 Posts
June 25 2011 00:00 GMT
#564
Fucking Gretorp took over the place. Mutiny I tells ya, mutiny.
tyrless
Profile Joined July 2010
United States485 Posts
June 25 2011 00:16 GMT
#565
Realistically there's no way NASL could match the income from coaching, so that's probably going to become a bigger focus. It would be for me @ $100/hr....................
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16711 Posts
June 25 2011 00:22 GMT
#566
On June 25 2011 07:51 legaton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 06:02 Mereel wrote:
On June 25 2011 05:56 chroniX wrote:
Leaving the sinking ship....good move!


what?


Incontrol has always been really good at leaving risky business endeavors at the right time. He did it first with the SC2 guide and then with the SC2 coaching (just search for that stuff on the archives). NASL is probably on a really bad spot right now (a 5000 euros tournament like HomeStory racks up to 20000 viewers while the NASL does what, half of that?) , so he can't be blamed for taking some distance from it.


This is total crap.

Incontrol made a lot of promises to a lot of people:

The money has been budgeted and secured. There's no like, “well gosh, if season one does really well then season two will be fine.” It's completely secure for three seasons. It's all insured and backed by Blizzard, that kind of stuff.


http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/north-american-star-league-exclusive-interview-with-geoff-incontrol-robinson/#ixzz1QEmZdsOu

He can't wash his hands of these promises. He stuck his neck out... made a big story out of all this.. and made the claim the $400,000 was backed and insured by Blizzard. Whatever that means. Blizzard is NOT an insurance company. So the terminology here is not exactly dead on correct. And when talking about $400,000 you'd expect ruthless attention to detail.

The pattern of behaviour here is similar to GosuGuide.com
The Parallels are Ominous.

he talked big with GosuGuide.com and when the money was incoming he was right there. when the flow of cash slowed down and later parts of the project required some real work...he then began to distance himself from GosuGuide.com and claimed the "business guys" behind GosuGuide.com had left him in the lurch. And yet.. if u visit the site.. its still accepting orders and will still take ur money.. and there is Incontrol "front and centre".

Simiilar pattern thus far with NASL. Everything is great when $250 application fee money is streaming in. Now that has stopped and money must be paid out.. Incontrol is slowly distancing himself from NASL. And if the pattern holds true he will start talking in 3rd person terms about NASL and what "those guys are doing". If NASL fails he'll claim to be 1 of the victims duped by unscrupulous "business guys"... just as happened with GosuGuide.com.

I'd recommend no one pay any kind of "entry fee" for season 2 until all the season 1 prize money is handed out.

Is NASL another big idea, with Mr. Robinson starting off as the "face of organization", about to go bad?
Time will tell.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Herculix
Profile Joined May 2010
United States946 Posts
June 25 2011 00:23 GMT
#567
incontrol lol. i'm not gonna say he's fucking dumb or anything but with all the silly drama about him having to grow up and be a face for esports and all of this nonsense, and then he goes and quits after only 1 season... idk what to say. he invested so much into being a caster, lost all the momentum he had gained after training in korea where he was starting to become a real threat in tournaments.

i guess when i think back to when NASL was being put together, and the months leading up to its announcement, it seemed like a much bigger deal than it actually ended up being. what was to be a star league comparable to GSL just never lived up to the hype, and so i guess i can understand his initial investment of time and effort and eventual disappointment and departure. it's still a good tournament, but it's only a star league in name.

either way, gl to you geoff, and i hope you get back on track with your gaming, but also i hope you get back on track with being yourself and not holding back anymore for the sake of... being the face of something big or whatever. you're back to just being a player, and i don't think you should compromise yourself unless absolutely necessary. greg doesn't and he benefits hugely from it without even intending to.
Ackers
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia31 Posts
June 25 2011 00:27 GMT
#568
Wish you all the best Geoff. A relatively easy decision given your a competitive person and haven't reached your skill ceiling. Who knows how far you can go now you're focusing all your efforts on the one skill set. Loved your casting and I'm sure its something you can continue on with after you're done with competitive play.
Accept everyone whether you respect them or not.
Baeras
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States140 Posts
June 25 2011 00:30 GMT
#569
Thank you for the glorious casting you have brought us, and all the joy everyone and myself has had been graced with having with you Geoff in the seat behind the mic. Best of luck to you in all your future goals and I personally cant wait to see you bringing down great results coming up.
Bet on it!
kWAkStER
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1 Post
June 25 2011 01:02 GMT
#570
I love gretorp + incontrol together.

If there's a new caster, I hope it's Day9!!
UnknownReclaimer
Profile Joined March 2011
United States146 Posts
June 25 2011 01:34 GMT
#571
I loved the chemistry that gretorp and incontrol had together. Was really fun to watch. A real bummer to hear that you're leaving Geoff, but thanks for casting while you could. I kinda feel bad for all the other pros though. He played at this level when he was casting THIS much, and doing all those business trips and tons of other stuff I'm sure I have no idea about. iNcontroL with this much extra time is gonna be taking tournaments left and right
"And when he pops out.. WE SHIT ON HIM! HAHAHAHA!" - Geoff Robinson
Katyusha
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway27 Posts
June 25 2011 01:35 GMT
#572
thank you alot for casting nasl, but i think you are doing a mistake, you might have been skilled enough to compete before the scene was established like it is now because of ur talent, but i think you missed your shot tbh, stick to casting and coaching, dont make a fool out of urself, atleast you can say now that i was good, instead of everyone proving that wrong at the big tournaments.
<Katyusha>
vojnik
Profile Joined October 2010
Macedonia923 Posts
June 25 2011 01:37 GMT
#573
On June 25 2011 10:35 Katyusha wrote:
thank you alot for casting nasl, but i think you are doing a mistake, you might have been skilled enough to compete before the scene was established like it is now because of ur talent, but i think you missed your shot tbh, stick to casting and coaching, dont make a fool out of urself, atleast you can say now that i was good, instead of everyone proving that wrong at the big tournaments.

what shot? the game is too young, only more practice makes you better, talent is nothing without practice. i disagree with you
Also i guess playing makes him more happy which is most important in the end.
For the swarm!
Mr. Nefarious
Profile Joined December 2010
United States515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 07:36:31
June 25 2011 01:40 GMT
#574
Edited. GL to Geoff he's a pretty solid protoss when he gets good practice. Same with Gretorp, I like their play better than their casting.
저그 화이팅
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
June 25 2011 01:51 GMT
#575
On June 25 2011 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 25 2011 07:51 legaton wrote:
On June 25 2011 06:02 Mereel wrote:
On June 25 2011 05:56 chroniX wrote:
Leaving the sinking ship....good move!


what?


Incontrol has always been really good at leaving risky business endeavors at the right time. He did it first with the SC2 guide and then with the SC2 coaching (just search for that stuff on the archives). NASL is probably on a really bad spot right now (a 5000 euros tournament like HomeStory racks up to 20000 viewers while the NASL does what, half of that?) , so he can't be blamed for taking some distance from it.


This is total crap.

Incontrol made a lot of promises to a lot of people:

The money has been budgeted and secured. There's no like, “well gosh, if season one does really well then season two will be fine.” It's completely secure for three seasons. It's all insured and backed by Blizzard, that kind of stuff.


http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/north-american-star-league-exclusive-interview-with-geoff-incontrol-robinson/#ixzz1QEmZdsOu

He can't wash his hands of these promises. He stuck his neck out... made a big story out of all this.. and made the claim the $400,000 was backed and insured by Blizzard. Whatever that means. Blizzard is NOT an insurance company. So the terminology here is not exactly dead on correct. And when talking about $400,000 you'd expect ruthless attention to detail.

The pattern of behaviour here is similar to GosuGuide.com
The Parallels are Ominous.

he talked big with GosuGuide.com and when the money was incoming he was right there. when the flow of cash slowed down and later parts of the project required some real work...he then began to distance himself from GosuGuide.com and claimed the "business guys" behind GosuGuide.com had left him in the lurch. And yet.. if u visit the site.. its still accepting orders and will still take ur money.. and there is Incontrol "front and centre".

Simiilar pattern thus far with NASL. Everything is great when $250 application fee money is streaming in. Now that has stopped and money must be paid out.. Incontrol is slowly distancing himself from NASL. And if the pattern holds true he will start talking in 3rd person terms about NASL and what "those guys are doing". If NASL fails he'll claim to be 1 of the victims duped by unscrupulous "business guys"... just as happened with GosuGuide.com.

I'd recommend no one pay any kind of "entry fee" for season 2 until all the season 1 prize money is handed out.

Is NASL another big idea, with Mr. Robinson starting off as the "face of organization", about to go bad?
Time will tell.



You and you're revisionist, half-baked history should be a bannable offense. Everything you've mentioned is imagined, fabricated or warped, and it's obvious you know absolutely nothing about how NASL is run, who runs it, or even how business works.

If the NASL fails, and there is absolutely now reason right now to think it would since they have financing for three seasons, it will almost have nothing to do with InControl, who was basically their contract employee.

Your attempt to blame InControl for a failure that a) hasn't even happened yet or b) he would deserve absolutely no fault for is so fucking despicable and low it makes me sick.

I can only assume that your a 15 year old that InControl beat you on the ladder once, and now you're making it a mission to drag his name in the mud. To which I say this: Go fuck yourself.



User was temp banned for this post.
Benga
Profile Joined October 2010
Korea (South)471 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 02:02:05
June 25 2011 02:01 GMT
#576
On June 24 2011 10:56 iNcontroL wrote:
there absolutely will be a season 2!!

I even spoke about how gretorp will continue casting alongside other casters and I will make guest appearances.

We are also running a qualifier atm for season 2... please fix OP


LOL it seems like he really has lingering desire in casting.Maybe EG is putting pressure on him,team sponsors wouldnt be happy if he gates knocked out of every tourney in the first round,paying him travel expenses and salary.He's trying to be th community interactive guy which is useless if he gets demolished every lan he goes,and its totally useless to for the team.
He really doesnt care about tourney results because he gains more money for himself by coaching and streaming anyways,redundant as a team.
hi
venge1155
Profile Joined January 2011
United States174 Posts
June 25 2011 02:04 GMT
#577
NASL open stuff got a lot more views than the HSC got, not to mention the vods... I do not know what you guys are talking about.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/haters-gonna-hate

Honestly I could care less if Geoff casts ( after the "top end" of casting as long as its not TB I could care less) or not. I can see why he needs the time, the dude really needs to get to marrying and focusing on playing!



User was warned for this post
tubs
Profile Joined March 2010
764 Posts
June 25 2011 02:04 GMT
#578
I love watching incontrol's stream and commentary. It was obviously cutting big time into his practice though. Can't fault a player for wanting to play more. Best of luck man!
"Roach dies to immortal and rockit black guy" - Tierdal.thex
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 25 2011 02:05 GMT
#579
Well talk about unexpected o_O

Best of luck to iNc, and it's good to see a couple of other casters carrying the torch
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 25 2011 02:09 GMT
#580
On June 25 2011 11:04 venge1155 wrote:
NASL open stuff got a lot more views than the HSC got, not to mention the vods... I do not know what you guys are talking about.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/haters-gonna-hate

Honestly I could care less if Geoff casts ( after the "top end" of casting as long as its not TB I could care less) or not. I can see why he needs the time, the dude really needs to get to marrying and focusing on playing!


What? the NASL open had like 4k viewers and the HSC had like 20k.
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