iNcontroL leaves NASL - Page 30

On June 25 2011 11:09 Olinim wrote:

What? the NASL open had like 4k viewers and the HSC had like 20k.

On June 25 2011 11:20 Powerforged2 wrote:
I wonder if the players feel the same way? I could see some of them saying something like ``ah shit, I have to play my NASL matches tonight, can`t wait till this is over and done with``

On June 25 2011 11:25 godemperor wrote:

Almost Naniwa's exact words from a post he made on TL about NASL.

On June 25 2011 10:51 Defacer wrote:

You and you're revisionist, half-baked history should be a bannable offense. Everything you've mentioned is imagined, fabricated or warped, and it's obvious you know absolutely nothing about how NASL is run, who runs it, or even how business works.

If the NASL fails, and there is absolutely now reason right now to think it would since they have financing for three seasons, it will almost have nothing to do with InControl, who was basically their contract employee.

Your attempt to blame InControl for a failure that a) hasn't even happened yet or b) he would deserve absolutely no fault for is so fucking despicable and low it makes me sick.

I can only assume that your a 15 year old that InControl beat you on the ladder once, and now you're making it a mission to drag his name in the mud. To which I say this: Go fuck yourself.

On June 25 2011 09:22 JimmyJRaynor wrote:


This is total crap.

Incontrol made a lot of promises to a lot of people:

The money has been budgeted and secured. There's no like, “well gosh, if season one does really well then season two will be fine.” It's completely secure for three seasons. It's all insured and backed by Blizzard, that kind of stuff.

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/north-american-star-league-exclusive-interview-with-geoff-incontrol-robinson/#ixzz1QEmZdsOu

He can't wash his hands of these promises. He stuck his neck out... made a big story out of all this.. and made the claim the $400,000 was backed and insured by Blizzard. Whatever that means. Blizzard is NOT an insurance company. So the terminology here is not exactly dead on correct. And when talking about $400,000 you'd expect ruthless attention to detail.

The pattern of behaviour here is similar to GosuGuide.com
The Parallels are Ominous.

he talked big with GosuGuide.com and when the money was incoming he was right there. when the flow of cash slowed down and later parts of the project required some real work...he then began to distance himself from GosuGuide.com and claimed the "business guys" behind GosuGuide.com had left him in the lurch. And yet.. if u visit the site.. its still accepting orders and will still take ur money.. and there is Incontrol "front and centre".

Simiilar pattern thus far with NASL. Everything is great when $250 application fee money is streaming in. Now that has stopped and money must be paid out.. Incontrol is slowly distancing himself from NASL. And if the pattern holds true he will start talking in 3rd person terms about NASL and what "those guys are doing". If NASL fails he'll claim to be 1 of the victims duped by unscrupulous "business guys"... just as happened with GosuGuide.com.

I'd recommend no one pay any kind of "entry fee" for season 2 until all the season 1 prize money is handed out.

Is NASL another big idea, with Mr. Robinson starting off as the "face of organization", about to go bad?
Time will tell.

On June 25 2011 11:29 JimmyJRaynor wrote:




if you are going to take big shots at me like this please at least get the basic grammar correct.
it should be "you and your revisionist history"

unfortunately, http://www.GosuGuide.com is doing a pretty good job dragging his name through the mud.
The site is still actively accepting orders with Mr. Robinson's name all over it. I'm just some random poster in the middle of a giant thread. Now, Mr. Robinson publicly acknowledged he exercised poor judgement is doing business with unscrupulous people in the formation of GosuGuide.com. As a result many innocent SC2 consumers were mislead regarding the product they were buying. Basically, a bunch of people got ripped off. Let's hope for everyone involved that Mr. Robinson did not exercise poor judgement again in dealing with the people at http://www.NASL.tv


NASL was good at accepting the application fees. Let's see how good they are at paying out the prize money.

I'd be cautious about giving them any money for Season 2 until the Season 1 prize money is handed out.

Is the NASL asking for Season 2 "application money" before handing out Season 1 prize money?

Regarding these comments about my lack of business acumen let's examine the motives of an eSports promoter or organizer than hands out 10s of thousands of dollars in prizes.

With the haphazard organization of NASL these kinds of questions arise. Furthermore, lacking a sponsor like a Chip Manufacturer, Peripheral Maker, or Dr. Pepper for that matter one must wonder how the NASL is sustainable.
You see Razer, Intel, AMD and ZOTAC sponsor eSports events not because they want to generously hand out money, but because they want to advertise their brand.
The same reason Honda, Toyota, FOrd and Penzoil sponsor and hand out huge prizes a auto racing events.
It is because of facts like these that speculation regarding the long term viability of the NASL arises.

I hope I've satisfied your concerns regarding my lack of business acumen.

you get to see the personalities behind the players. This is something NASL promised but never delivered.

On June 25 2011 11:15 godemperor wrote:

Also HSC is fucking awesome, you get to see the personalities behind the players. This is something NASL promised but never delivered.

On June 25 2011 15:56 Defacer wrote:



Here's the point: Let's say the NASL does tank?

WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH INCONTROL?

InControl was employed by the NASL. Do you seriously think that he is somehow liable for how they do business, or the prize money, or the salaries of employees?

Your original, ridiculous post suggests that -- somehow -- InControl should somehow be blamed IF the NASL were to fail, when all he did was his fucking job -- commentate the games and promote the enterprise as much as he could. And he did both those things quite well.

Your eagerness to assign guilt-by-association is preposterous and obviously motivated by a personal bias. It's like blaming a foot soldier for wasting hundreds of billions of dollar in the war in Iraq. It's like blaming Day 9 for the clusterfuck at MLG Dallas.

Your skepticism of the NASL may have merit -- however it is purely skepticism, there is absolutely nothing substantial to suggest otherwise. Still, it has nothing to do with InControl. Unless you can show me the documentation that suggests that InControl has equity in the NASL, is an owner, or was responsible for financing and finding sponsors for the NASL, it doesn't belong in this thread.

And your business acumen is still unsatisfactory, due to your inability to properly parse and separate different individuals from their responsibilities and respective liabilities.