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Houkka
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland51 Posts
June 27 2011 19:02 GMT
#1161
On June 27 2011 17:25 Lysenko wrote:
No, he was saying those people do not dictate it, there was nothing in his post to suggest someone else does in their place.


But everyone already knew they don't. I was thinking since he was the first to mention the whole concept, he must be aware of what it is and who does it. Because as it is, the situation is like me coming in this thread saying "I think saying 'pork chops' is completely acceptable!" Which would make no sense, as no one assumed otherwise beforehand. Captain Obvious is obvious.
“Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist” -George Carlin
antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 27 2011 20:09 GMT
#1162
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 27 2011 20:57 GMT
#1163
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 27 2011 21:02 GMT
#1164
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.

What is a the cut off for one of the best players in the world? That usually means like...top 20 at MOST. Destiny doesn't even begin to qualify for top player.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 27 2011 21:14 GMT
#1165
On June 28 2011 06:02 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.

What is a the cut off for one of the best players in the world? That usually means like...top 20 at MOST. Destiny doesn't even begin to qualify for top player.


How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 21:23:33
June 27 2011 21:18 GMT
#1166
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...
Belial88
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5217 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 21:25:39
June 27 2011 21:22 GMT
#1167
. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens.]


Yes, I have. Some of us go outside (sorry, I have to take that cheapshot) and interact with people. At worst they will laugh at the 'cracka ass white boy'. If you go to any group of people and say "go fuck yourselves you pieces of shit' you will get beat up. "nigger" is a derogatory word, but the word itself, by itself, in an isolated context, is, as always, just a word.

So if you go up to a group of black people, in the hood, and say, "How do you think about me using the word nigger" in a polite way, you won't have a problem, outside of the problems a white boy would have in the hood without having to say anything.

Not everyone in the world is as sensitive and 'caring' as you.
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antelope591
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada820 Posts
June 27 2011 21:35 GMT
#1168
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.


Hes a good player but nowhere close to one of the best players in the world...i can name 100 better players just off the top of my head prolly 200-300 if i put some research into it. TLO isnt one of the best in the world right now either altho he has 10x more results than Destiny. Do u know what BEST means? Ur not one of the best when ur not even top 20 at your race.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 27 2011 21:38 GMT
#1169
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.
purecarnagge
Profile Joined August 2010
719 Posts
June 27 2011 21:38 GMT
#1170
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.


I've been flamed for months for saying TLO hasn't performed. Sure he's nice entertaining, but what has he won against quality competition? He hustles small tournaments...
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 21:41:19
June 27 2011 21:39 GMT
#1171
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.


TLO hasn't been performing due to carpal tunnel, Destiny no matter how funny he can be is not one of the best players in the world.
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LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-27 21:54:05
June 27 2011 21:50 GMT
#1172
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.


To me, calling Destiny "one of the best players in the world" would be like calling Idra one of the best Brood War players in the world. Sure, he had some mild success being picked up by a team and taking games off professionals back in the day, but nobody considered him as one of the best in the world simply because they were aware how far off he actually was from people who were. Destiny is in a similar boat. The guy is talented and skilled for certain, but with so many players that are better, it's just an insult to them to consider this guy in the same league.

The truth is that Destiny is much more known for his personality at this point than the results he's posted with his gameplay. He may very well be one of the best players in NA, but things change when you're talking about the global scene. He's a big fish in a small pond.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 27 2011 21:52 GMT
#1173
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.

Destiny winning some games against the absolute best players? Can you link me to the Destiny vs oGsMC and ST_bomber vods? Thanks.
badcnr
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada116 Posts
June 27 2011 21:55 GMT
#1174
On June 28 2011 06:39 Hierarch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.


TLO hasn't been performing due to carpal tunnel, Destiny no matter how funny he can be is not one of the best players in the world.

I would not say that destiny is the best in the world and i dont think he would take that claim. But who is best in the world by your definition? Because right now i dont think any one can claim best in the world. But maybe one of the best in the world would be a lot of the koreans and huk, idra, naniwa. But destiny can beat them maybe not every time and he still has a lot of practice to get to a way higher level but destiny is not out of the running because he doesnt win every tournement or fail to give results all the time. Destiny is constantly trying to improve him self and just cause he hasnt won any mlg's doesnt mean he is not capable.
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
June 27 2011 21:59 GMT
#1175
On June 28 2011 06:55 badcnr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 06:39 Hierarch wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:57 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 05:09 antelope591 wrote:
On June 28 2011 03:39 hejakev wrote:
On June 27 2011 23:10 antelope591 wrote:
Ive never watched destinys stream since I care much more about actual level of play than "entertainment" whatever that means. However to all the people saying that using the n word is ok would u ever say nigga or nigger or any other iteration of the word around a group of black people? Try it and see what happens. Once u do come back and tell us if its still ok to use the word freely. Personally I dont see why some white people are so obsessed with having to use the word but I could care less. The fact they're saying shit online they would never say in real life tells me all I need to know about them.


http://sc2ranks.com/us/310150/ROOTDestiny

So you don't watch his stream, and you obviously didn't notice that he's one of the top players in the world, but your blind insight tells you that he's not good or entertaining?


Eh its more like I don't really enjoy watching Zerg play since I've always played only T/P since the BW days...unless the Zerg is Idra/Ret/Dimaga/Sen quality or a Korean I'm not interested =\. And being #113 grandmaster on NA with zero tourney accomplishments makes you one of the top players in the world now? rofl


It does.

Take TLO for example. TLO, like Destiny, hasn't really won anything, yet he's still considered one of the best players in the world and he has always been one of the most popular players by viewership.

They're both in grandmasters, they compete at the same level, and they both have huge fan bases for being quality players in both skill and entertainment value. Just because you don't think Destiny is entertaining and just because he hasn't won the tournaments you watch doesn't mean he's not playing top level matches.


TLO hasn't been performing due to carpal tunnel, Destiny no matter how funny he can be is not one of the best players in the world.

I would not say that destiny is the best in the world and i dont think he would take that claim. But who is best in the world by your definition? Because right now i dont think any one can claim best in the world. But maybe one of the best in the world would be a lot of the koreans and huk, idra, naniwa. But destiny can beat them maybe not every time and he still has a lot of practice to get to a way higher level but destiny is not out of the running because he doesnt win every tournement or fail to give results all the time. Destiny is constantly trying to improve him self and just cause he hasnt won any mlg's doesnt mean he is not capable.


I'm not diminishing Destiny's skill or passion or work ethic or any of that but at this time he's not on the same level as someone like DRG/NesTea/MVP/MKP/Polt/MC/Nani/Thorzain/MMA/Losira/HuK etc etc...

There are just a ton of players that are really good, with the better of them coming mostly from EU and Korea. Especially after watching HSC EU has a ton of talented players that are just unexposed, like Stephano.
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epidGoaty
Profile Joined December 2010
United States219 Posts
June 27 2011 22:00 GMT
#1176
Might I point out that TLO did well in the GSL, Destiny wouldn't even qualify. He'd be too busy stating he lost because someone played P lol.
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
June 27 2011 22:01 GMT
#1177
On June 28 2011 06:52 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.

Destiny winning some games against the absolute best players? Can you link me to the Destiny vs oGsMC and ST_bomber vods? Thanks.


Obviously if your definition of "really good" is beating MC and Bomber, whereas someone else's is being able to beat most of the top NA players, there's going to be a tough time communicating. Neither of you guys are even saying different things, you're both just sloppy with your wording. Its not like its even the sorta thing that you can misinterpret. Results are results. Its just a matter of how each of you judge the results..
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
June 27 2011 22:02 GMT
#1178
On June 28 2011 07:01 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 06:52 Olinim wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.

Destiny winning some games against the absolute best players? Can you link me to the Destiny vs oGsMC and ST_bomber vods? Thanks.


Obviously if your definition of "really good" is beating MC and Bomber, whereas someone else's is being able to beat most of the top NA players, there's going to be a tough time communicating. Neither of you guys are even saying different things, you're both just sloppy with your wording. Its not like its even the sorta thing that you can misinterpret. Results are results. Its just a matter of how each of you judge the results..

He said the absolute best players in the world. Those were his words.
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
June 27 2011 22:08 GMT
#1179
On June 28 2011 07:02 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 07:01 Mohdoo wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:52 Olinim wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.

Destiny winning some games against the absolute best players? Can you link me to the Destiny vs oGsMC and ST_bomber vods? Thanks.


Obviously if your definition of "really good" is beating MC and Bomber, whereas someone else's is being able to beat most of the top NA players, there's going to be a tough time communicating. Neither of you guys are even saying different things, you're both just sloppy with your wording. Its not like its even the sorta thing that you can misinterpret. Results are results. Its just a matter of how each of you judge the results..

He said the absolute best players in the world. Those were his words.


Way to completely miss his point.

I'm saying he plays against some of the absolute best players, playing against Huk and Idra on his stream were the only examples I gave. You want to see replays of him against Koreans. I don't know if he's played against bomber or MC, I guess I could check around.
badcnr
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada116 Posts
June 27 2011 22:11 GMT
#1180
On June 28 2011 07:02 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 07:01 Mohdoo wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:52 Olinim wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:38 hejakev wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:18 LegendaryZ wrote:
On June 28 2011 06:14 hejakev wrote:
How about being in grandmasters, competing, and playing even games against people who win tournaments? I'd say just being GM, but that would include some trash like Deezer and Combatex. There's a reason players like Huk come over to NA just to play him, and there's a reason he's constantly getting matched against players like Idra on the ladder.


Sure, if you look at the million+ people that play Starcraft 2, then I suppose you can say he's "one of the best", but the truth is that he probably wouldn't break into the top 200 players on a global scale so as far as the professional scene is concerned, he's not and to say that he is just waters down the phrase. Just being in GM doesn't automatically qualify you for that title. As far as the professional scene is concerned, that is just a given.

Personally I'm tired of people constantly throwing around the "one of the best in the world" tag. It's used so often it's just become meaningless...


Oh wow, nice edit.

He plays with the best players, he's winning some games against the absolute best players, I don't know how else you'd describe him. He's only been on teams and competing for a few months, yet he can make a big enough impact for players from other servers want to come practice with him.

Huk wouldn't come to NA to waste his time on some nobody.

Destiny winning some games against the absolute best players? Can you link me to the Destiny vs oGsMC and ST_bomber vods? Thanks.


Obviously if your definition of "really good" is beating MC and Bomber, whereas someone else's is being able to beat most of the top NA players, there's going to be a tough time communicating. Neither of you guys are even saying different things, you're both just sloppy with your wording. Its not like its even the sorta thing that you can misinterpret. Results are results. Its just a matter of how each of you judge the results..

He said the absolute best players in the world. Those were his words.

and whats wrong with that. given the whole world of sc2 players he is definately not on the bottom or middle. He is not the very top like top 200 but given the skill level of the top 200 things can change quickly. Destiny still does need some learning but that doesnt mean that he is out of the running of being top of the world. Cause he has been able take games off some the top people in the world and that to me means he is up there
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