EPTFantasy GSTL Team Discussion - Page 77
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ProperOne
United States102 Posts
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R1CH
Netherlands10341 Posts
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
On July 05 2011 12:57 R1CH wrote: Trading of random players is now possible. <3 <3 <3 <3 THANK YOU! edit: actually it seems still broken. The drop down menu now works correctly and you can select anyone in the list. However when you click trade. You get this message "Can't trade away the only player of a race on your team!" I guess the code must make this check at two different places and you only changed it at one. At least now we know the admin will fix it and I'm sure it'll be done soon  edit edit: PM'd R1CH and he got it fixed right away. Awesome! | ||
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CellTech
Canada396 Posts
(He's on my antiteam) Has he won a single game that I'm unaware of? | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
If the second choice, how is it determined? | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:12 Piski wrote: How does the announcing starting players work? Both team announce it at the same time or one team announces and other team gets to pick who goes against that? If the second choice, how is it determined? I would think that both teams will tell GOM about their starting player so that GOM can release the news at the same time (since Gom releases the news). Thus making the role of the team coach more important and add more dynamics so that you could anticipate of a losing scenario of your starting player. | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:15 shannn wrote: I would think that both teams will tell GOM about their starting player so that GOM can release the news at the same time (since Gom releases the news). Thus making the role of the team coach more important and add more dynamics so that you could anticipate of a losing scenario of your starting player. Ok thank you. I just have seen some people going "well if they put him against that guy, means they are confident he could win" etc but that would only work if one team knows in advance who the other team pics as their first player. I'm finding hard to decide if I want to switch my Gumiho for StC. If he wins game or two I might be able to switch him back to Gumiho later. Also Seal could even all-kill FXO is he manages to take down Oz. But if not he would be a waste of a player. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
 )Besides that I'm opting to switch either MVPKeen or IMSeed for Tassadar since Seal's statistics don't say much and he's a Zerg  I'm hoping Twilight will win his 1st game so that he will atleast give me 2 points and I expect Tassadar or Sage to all kill FXO. I'm hoping FXO wins but Tassadar and Sage are just on fire right now with a respective ro4 Code A and GSTL all-kill. I just need to think whether or not I should get Tassadar for either Keen or Seed. I think I'm going for Keen as Keen has played GSL code S today and shouldn't have enough time to focus on GSTL then. Hope I get lots of points ^^ this week :p | ||
CosmicSpiral
United States15275 Posts
On July 05 2011 18:22 CellTech wrote: How come PoltPrime aka Optimus Prime,hasn't given me points for losing (He's on my antiteam) Has he won a single game that I'm unaware of? You can only get negative points from your anti-team. | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
On July 05 2011 22:30 Piski wrote: Ok thank you. I just have seen some people going "well if they put him against that guy, means they are confident he could win" etc but that would only work if one team knows in advance who the other team pics as their first player. I'm finding hard to decide if I want to switch my Gumiho for StC. If he wins game or two I might be able to switch him back to Gumiho later. Also Seal could even all-kill FXO is he manages to take down Oz. But if not he would be a waste of a player. Sometimes it's because of the map. Like Belshir Beach... it's almost a guarantee that both teams are going to put out a zerg. Also, if TheStC wins a game and oGs wins (so he gets 3 points) you will be able to trade him back for GuMiho. But if he wins and oGs loses... you're screwed. Bit risky. I'm thinking about making the same trade... | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
And i have hack from Zenex but noone else from IM as I could see all of their big names playing this week (all too expensive especially when i wouldnt be surprised by a losira finishing blow after true) | ||
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DoomsVille
Canada4885 Posts
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
On July 06 2011 00:51 DoomsVille wrote: You're not trading away Hack for someone like PuMa just to take advantage of his ridiculously high trade value (that is bound to go down)? Who do you think has a better chance of being played this week? | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
On July 06 2011 00:51 DoomsVille wrote: You're not trading away Hack for someone like PuMa just to take advantage of his ridiculously high trade value (that is bound to go down)? if hack wins 1 game or his team wins his value goes up | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:00 Mattchew wrote: if hack wins 1 game or his team wins his value goes up that's not true, since the adjusted trade value takes into consideration number of games left. Hack would most likely need to win atleast 4-5 points just to stay at around the same value. Puma isn't playing so his value won't change. Hack's value is quite inflated unless you really expect him to score at least 5 points this week. | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
On July 06 2011 00:46 DoomsVille wrote: Sometimes it's because of the map. Like Belshir Beach... it's almost a guarantee that both teams are going to put out a zerg. Also, if TheStC wins a game and oGs wins (so he gets 3 points) you will be able to trade him back for GuMiho. But if he wins and oGs loses... you're screwed. Bit risky. I'm thinking about making the same trade... TheStc needs to get 2 points to stay at 10. 3 points will put him at 13. I would not make the Gumiho -> TheStc trade unless you think TheStc can score at least 4 points though. Since it cost 1 point to trade and another to trade back, he needs to score 3 points just so you can get back Gumiho which still nets you only 1 point and cost you one of your trade slots next week. Taking that risk just isn't worth it unless you intend to keep TheStc for more than one week or expect him to get 2-3 kills this week. I'm thinking about trading GuineaPig for Puma. The thing is I feel like oGs has a plan against DRG already and GuineaPig is random and probably the 2nd best player on MVP so I could potentially see him winning some games. The thing is GuineaPig would need to score a whopping 6 points if I want to swap for Puma next week which is not too likely. He would need 3 points to stay above 20 adjusted trade value which I might just get Naniwa while I still have a player that can. Same situation for Sage. Sage needs to score 2 points next week to be able to trade for Puma. But Honestly I don't see HoseO using sage this week against FXO, Tassadar/San/Shuttle/Jjakji are most likely who will see play, so Sage can only get 1 point which won't be enough for Puma. | ||
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mordek
United States12705 Posts
Edit: On July 06 2011 01:26 mrbamboo wrote: that's not true, since the adjusted trade value takes into consideration number of games left. Hack would most likely need to win atleast 4-5 points just to stay at around the same value. Puma isn't playing so his value won't change. Hack's value is quite inflated unless you really expect him to score at least 5 points this week. I just want to see if I understand you correctly. It makes sense to trade Hack for Puma solely because Puma is the better player. Hack could not play or mess up this week and his value drops (due to less games left) and there go your chances of securing Puma who is worth keeping around for the long haul. Yes? | ||
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
I don't have Hack but if I would I would trade instantly. Edit: Question. Do people think that in this lead off lineup there is someone that is a "must have" that could do earn you a lot of points. At least I haven't found reasons to get anyone from these lead offs. Seal could do well and even all kill but that depends on if he is good enough to take down Oz. Also I agree that StC is risky but he has a chance to win 2 games. I checked Finale's and StC's records and they heavily favored on StC but that was before his military. But I agree that it's a risky move. | ||
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mrbamboo
United States415 Posts
TradeValue = ( GamesLeft * Salary /5 + 5/9 * Score ) * GamesLeft Hack is now worth (4 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 10) * 4 = 25.42 next week he could be worth (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 10) * 3 = 18.47 (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 11) * 3 = 20.13 (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 12) * 3 = 21.8 (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 13) * 3 = 23.47 (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 14) * 3 = 25.13 (3 * 1/5 + 5/9 * 15) * 3 = 26.8 See he needs 4 points to just stay at ~25 trade value. Puma is worth 24.18 so Hack needs to score 4 points this week if you want to wait and trade him for Puma afterwards. Edit: Here are my trades this week, subject to change but you can use them as just a guide for maybe similar trades you plan on making. Sheth for Hero - If Sheth does't score any points he will be less than 5 next week. Too hard to trade off. Honestly It's really hard to justify keeping any FXO players except maybe Oz just for one more week if you think he will win the starting set. I think Hero or Huk will be the solution to DRG, it makes more sense for oGs to use Hero but Huk has been on fire and with all the foreigners in the GSTL now Huk might actually get sent out so who knows. I intend to keep Hero for a while though who is more likely to see play in the future series. Alternatives for this trade: Tassadar, Jjakji, Shuttle. Man I swear one of those 3 is gonna get the 3-kill or all kill on FXO, I already have Sage though for HoSeo and they aren't playing the week after and I don't like to put all my eggs in one basket. Also Huk instead of Hero, I know a lot of people don't think oGs will use him but Huk has gotten so good and just winning 2 championships. With MC out of town I definitely could see Huk getting used to please the foreigners. Tons of other 5 point alternatives like IceCream, Luvsik, TSL_Smart, IMHorror might be worthwhile? GuineaPig for Puma - GuineaPig needs to score atleast 3 points to stay above 20 and 6 points to stay above 24 for next week. Sage and GuineaPig are my only two players worth over 20 right now (well except DRG who is my captain). GuineaPig might be able to get a win or two tomorrow but I don't want to risk losing trade value on waiting. I think Puma is a beast and also the rest of TSL isn't as good so Puma should see a lot of play too. Long term planning I don't see myself trading Puma off for the rest of the season. I'm gonna be so mad when GuineaPig gets a 3 kill on oGs >.< Alternatives: Alicia. Could definitely keep beasting it up rest of the series. Alive. Killer. Honestly just not as a good of a choice when you can get Puma, but hey Puma had his go so Alive will prob get played before Puma the next time TSL plays and Alive is still very good. Nada. He is out of school and back to full time pro gamer, showing us how good he can be in the code S group play last night. He could definitely see some play after TheStc goes down. Naniwa/Thorzain for long term thinking. Remember everyone else's trade value will keep dipping down due to game played and if you wait for the last week before F.United plays you might not have anyone left that's worth 20+ points to get them, so keep that in mind. Anti team trade San for Lyn. I didn't understand the system too well when it started, I really should've just had Lyn on my anti-team to begin with. I'm deathly scared San will play after Seal and get some kind of 3 or all kill on FXO. Despite Sheth beating him in code A, San can definitely still take games off him. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On July 06 2011 01:26 mrbamboo wrote: that's not true, since the adjusted trade value takes into consideration number of games left. Hack would most likely need to win atleast 4-5 points just to stay at around the same value. Puma isn't playing so his value won't change. Hack's value is quite inflated unless you really expect him to score at least 5 points this week. Hack needs to get 4 points in order for his value to be higher than PuMa's, which is not ENTIRELY impossible however unlikely. It could be a good investment to keep Hack considering that ZeNeX plays week 3 AND 4 while TSL won't play until week 4. The safe bet is trading Hack for PuMa right now though. | ||
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