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mYNDIG
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway179 Posts
September 03 2011 09:34 GMT
#2941
On September 03 2011 18:08 OrchidThief wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 17:56 mYNDIG wrote:
Shouldn't we be able to trade now? Kinda needs to change my team before the playoffs!


The season is over, the fantasy league doesn't extend into the playoffs.


Well thats just sad panda = (

But guess I'm satisfied with 465th place, especially with how little time I have actually used this season!
We all die in the end
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 18:17:51
September 03 2011 17:48 GMT
#2942
On September 03 2011 18:23 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 04:37 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 03 2011 03:37 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
[quote]

With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!


You know what pisses me off, that even though you made the best predictions possible you didn't even break top 200, that's just extreme bad luck.

I was in the top 40 during most of the season, always about 10 points below you. At one point, during the middle of the season, I was 6th. Then EG (I had both PuMa and HuK on my team), qxc and IM's coach happened. They screwed me over so bad that I stopped caring and didn't make a single trade the last few weeks.

I made some reasonable predictions, but absurd things happened. With just 10% of your luck, I would have won this thing. Ezpz.


Yeah, man, all those lucky bastards who picked qxc. Oh wait, only a single person out of top 10 at the end had qxc on their team. Oh boo hoo you had Puma and Huk, they both had great trade value still when their team change got announced, TSL's other players all got tons of kills and didn't even need PuMa to go 5-0. Look at everyone in top 20, who didn't have at least a handful of players or trades that made no points? Sage and Jjakji scored 4 points in 6 weeks for me. I traded for IMMVP who got like 0 points and became a useless slot for 3 weeks. Each series is a best of 1, no one has 100% win on anything. The whole thing is a game of chance, you play to maximize your odds. How many poker players quits playing just because sometimes someone sucks out on the river? You accept that just happens sometimes and know you made the right move regardless of outcome. Players change teams, players fly out to other tournaments, players get injuries, players sometimes miss scouting a cheese by half an inch, sometimes players just have a bad game. Get over it.

No one is denying that GSTL results have really high variance. That's the just how the game is right now. Almost any of the top players in Korea can beat another in a best of 1 where you get the choose the map and practice sniping a player for a week. Coaches decisions may seem weird to you but you've only seen a handful of televised matches from each player and probably never seen half their other players play in practice. Half the game of fantasy is understanding a coach's motivation. It's not a secret that many teams treat GSTL as a chance to show off their lesser known players or get their B-team more experience on stage. Sometimes a player just really wants to play against someone and convince the coach to let them play instead of someone else. It's naive to think that coaches, who has about 100x the information about his players and different motivations than you, should make the same choices you do. Fantasy is not about picking the strongest team, fantasy is about picking what's most likely to happen.

I'm gonna keep playing fantasy the same way next season, there's always gonna be haters but the vast majority of people on this thread seems to enjoy my discussion. I play fantasy for fun because I enjoy the games and I like to speculate on players and teams. If you are tilting so hard at fantasy that you rage quit, and then calling other people scumbags for doing better than you, you are taking this way too seriously. I mean come on, this is a game about speculating about other people playing another game.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 04 2011 00:11 GMT
#2943
Having Huk was a pretty bad decision anyways.

If you looked at oGs's schedule, you'd realize he was going to miss 2 of the 3 remaining games for oGs after his strong performance in their match vs. prime (because of blizzcon NA qualifiers and MLG raleigh). You should have traded him immediately after he did well in that match.

I actually got him on my anti-team before he even moved over to EG because of this.
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
September 04 2011 00:15 GMT
#2944
On September 03 2011 03:37 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:28 Primadog wrote:
[quote]

Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic


On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!

Dude, you have to be the most sore loser ever. Of course you get lucky when your predictions come true, but that's a part of predictions, and you can only ever get good enough to keep it to a minimum. Even though you may claim that mrbamboo won points because of luck from time to time I don't think you can claim that it's all about luck. Besides, you're really not in a position ranking-wise to argue one way or another; you don't fall down that far due to bad luck only.
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mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-04 18:48:16
September 04 2011 18:13 GMT
#2945
Oh man look at all these GSTL all kill beasts qualifying for code A. Sage, GuMiho, Revival and Curious. Both Seal and Hack barely lost in final round to qualify. JJakji already in up/down from last month.
They are not gonna be cheap to get next fantasy season ~_~
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 04 2011 18:16 GMT
#2946
On September 03 2011 03:37 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:28 Primadog wrote:
[quote]

Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic


On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!

wow calm down its just a game lol. You lost, deal with it and stop being such a sore loser.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
September 04 2011 18:25 GMT
#2947
On September 02 2011 21:03 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Things that ruined this season for me:

EG stealing PuMa and HuK.
Me being stupid by grabbing Horror, the worst player in GSTL history.
IM's coach being hellbent on losing and always sending out his worst players, even when it matters the most.
qxc all-killing IM.
Trading DongRaeGu for an underperforming MC, and then trading MC for Naniwa, who went to MLG and lost most of the games he played.
mrbamboo's disgusting luck/ability to bend reality to his will.

I stopped making trades a few weeks ago and fell from top 30 to god knows what. This season sucked.

wait your saying you lost because you were unlucky when you voluntarily traded out DRG? This season was awesome!
GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 04 2011 19:21 GMT
#2948
lol fantasy sports take a lot of luck man. this was a really fun season though
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
asperger
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1310 Posts
September 04 2011 20:59 GMT
#2949
On September 05 2011 04:21 GenoPewPew wrote:
lol fantasy sports take a lot of luck man. this was a really fun season though

I agree. Even though you can argue that "no-names" like jjakji, Sage and Hack all-killed, there were some surprising ones like Clide and Curious now at the end of the season, as well as a lot of exciting close series. I hope the play-offs will be really awesome.
Nestea | Puzzle | DongRaeGu | YongHwa
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
September 04 2011 22:36 GMT
#2950
I ended up in tied 43rd place! I'm pretty happy with that, considering I hadn't even broken the top 140 or so until week 9 =D

Congrats to all those who actually enjoyed this season, with shoutouts to those that stuck near the top with a lot of luck, but also actually a bit of risk rather than just banking on the ace of every team. That and archerylady for never trading yet nabbing a top 10 finish haha, that was my plan until I realised I made some terrible team decisions, but trading was good fun.

Looking forward to the next season already, since playoffs dont count =(
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 04 2011 23:36 GMT
#2951
Ah, GG's to everyone. Unfortunately after following my best week of the season (W8) with my worst week (W9), I fell out of the top 100 and couldn't catch up with only one active player. Final roster, assuming you guys can see that.

I really need to work on my trading, sigh. The only good one I made all season was Taeja before his all kill.

Overall though, I think my biggest mistake was trusting in foreigners. I had Puma on my original roster as well, I was a fan after his first game in the old GSTL's. I also had Sheth on my original roster, believing that he had the skill and drive to play in Korea and stick with it. Yea.... you know how those picks worked out. Thorzain was great the first week, well worth holding onto him from the start of the season.... and then he does barely *anything* in the 4 subsequent matches.

I also swapped Startale for F.United at what I thought was the perfect point. ST only had 1 game left, and F.United had 5. Too bad I didn't realize just how much WC3 the FOX players were practicing, Naniwa flying out of the country for multiple weeks, and ST ended up earning more points in a single game than F.United did in 5. I started with Soccer on my team but immediately realized that I didn't want him before they played, so I traded him away, then back again when F.United started playing. Then it turned out he sucked, so I ended up trading him away again to put my hope on SlayerS, and he ends up finally winning a game as soon as I don't have him. Sigh.

Speaking of SlayerS...... christ what a disappointment. I kept Alicia the whole season, hoping against hope. Swapped for SlayerS_Lots in one of those "what were you thinking" trades in W4 and he immediately lost so much value that he became untradable for the rest of the season. Decided to invest my Puma capital in freaking MMA, and he barely plays and hardly wins when he does. At the end I figured I'd bet the farm on SlayerS to try to keep up, so I pick up Ganzi. He wins 1 freaking game.

Finally I invest in NSH the last 2 weeks, decide that Taeja won't have to play again after his all-kill given the depth on SlayerS. So I pick up one of NSH's highest rated players in a gamble, and freaking Seal gets the all kill!

Sigh. Better luck next season.
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 14:25:46
September 05 2011 14:14 GMT
#2952
Ah, what a season. My first serious attempt Fantasy League, and Im stuck for many more seasons

I ended up with 107 positive points, enough for a place at first page. If I didn’t fuck everything up with my anti-team. To start with Killer on the anti-team is risky. To desperately trade him for Bomber is just damn stupid... Arght.

Next season I will spend as much time with my anti-team as my fantasy team! :D

Sad to see this season end with a lot of arguing. I like your willingness to discuss choices MrBamboo. I always consider what everyone in this tread says, then think for myself, then do the trades. Why trust anyone completely? ^^

But hey MrBamboo, you could actually try to act a little bit more modest while you’re at top position Not saying I wouldn’t boast if I were there ^^

Anyway, hope to see you all next season! Now that we got our own Fantasy League Idra (Fanta_rules) and MC (MrBamboo), it’s going to be even more exciting! :D

(No offence guys)
he he... ja
~Maverick~
Profile Joined July 2010
United States234 Posts
September 05 2011 15:00 GMT
#2953
Good season guys Unfortunately Fenix on my anti team knocked me out of the top 50 into 60th place, but maybe next time ^_^
#roadto5kmmr
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
September 05 2011 18:02 GMT
#2954
On September 05 2011 23:14 Swap wrote:
Ah, what a season. My first serious attempt Fantasy League, and Im stuck for many more seasons

I ended up with 107 positive points, enough for a place at first page. If I didn’t fuck everything up with my anti-team. To start with Killer on the anti-team is risky. To desperately trade him for Bomber is just damn stupid... Arght.

Next season I will spend as much time with my anti-team as my fantasy team! :D

Sad to see this season end with a lot of arguing. I like your willingness to discuss choices MrBamboo. I always consider what everyone in this tread says, then think for myself, then do the trades. Why trust anyone completely? ^^

But hey MrBamboo, you could actually try to act a little bit more modest while you’re at top position Not saying I wouldn’t boast if I were there ^^

Anyway, hope to see you all next season! Now that we got our own Fantasy League Idra (Fanta_rules) and MC (MrBamboo), it’s going to be even more exciting! :D

(No offence guys)



I don't boast. I celebrate. When some of my predictions come true I say wow I cant' believe all those things happened. I don't go around telling other people they are wrong or bad. I only say alright here are the scenarios and chances that needs to happen so they can catch up in points, here are the different things that could happen for me to stay at top spot. Those are part of analysis, because they effect how you trade, those are not "bashing" other fantasy players.
CustomKal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada749 Posts
September 05 2011 18:09 GMT
#2955
I wish I hadn't listened to my brothers reasoning ever or I would have never had such a shitty anti-team. I started with fruitdealer lyn and inca. for some reason Halfway through i traded them all cept lyn and now my anti team is like -20 lol.

Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 05 2011 18:18 GMT
#2956
On September 06 2011 03:09 CustomKal wrote:
I wish I hadn't listened to my brothers reasoning ever or I would have never had such a shitty anti-team. I started with fruitdealer lyn and inca. for some reason Halfway through i traded them all cept lyn and now my anti team is like -20 lol.



o.O fruitdealer inca lyn... that's -8 and near optimal for an antiteam. How in the world did you get -20 from there?
Thank God and gunrun.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 18:59:32
September 05 2011 18:54 GMT
#2957
Next season is going to have a lot less luck involved.

After season 1, most of the closet gosus (HoSeo's, taeja, hack, etc.) are going to be known. Which leaves a lot less room for random all-kills that no one expects and proper trade values for them.

Also, everyone will get DRG so he won't be a factor

EDIT: regarding anti-teams. You'll notice that all of the players with ridiculous low anti-team scores (< 7 or 8) have 1 major big name player (MMA, polt, nestea) that drastically underperformed (or were overvalued?) + 2 players unlikely to see much play. That is the ideal way to make an anti-team imo. Next season there shouldn't be Lyns/Moons/fruitdealers/testers that score basically nothing for an anti-team.
maruchan
Profile Joined June 2011
31 Posts
September 05 2011 20:17 GMT
#2958
fwiw I like mrbamboo a lot

Seems like a decent guy and a very deserving winner.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
September 06 2011 14:50 GMT
#2959
On September 06 2011 05:17 maruchan wrote:
fwiw I like mrbamboo a lot

Seems like a decent guy and a very deserving winner.

Definitely.

I was just wondering this morning, how much do you think DRG will be worth next season? He has to be expensive to make the risk/reward of not using him on your team at least enticing, right?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Nexic
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States729 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-06 15:59:31
September 06 2011 15:59 GMT
#2960
On September 06 2011 23:50 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 06 2011 05:17 maruchan wrote:
fwiw I like mrbamboo a lot

Seems like a decent guy and a very deserving winner.

Definitely.

I was just wondering this morning, how much do you think DRG will be worth next season? He has to be expensive to make the risk/reward of not using him on your team at least enticing, right?
Considering he is guaranteed to play in every MVP match, and almost guaranteed to get multiple kills, he will be worth it. I don't think there's another player who you can say the same things about. But yeah he will be the most expensive player in GSTL.
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