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GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 02 2011 17:43 GMT
#2921
gg bamboo!
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
September 02 2011 17:51 GMT
#2922
In terms of anti-team, fruit dealer was a great choice even before we found out the team switch because he's been slumping and he had huge fantasy cost to fill up that 13 points. He was like the most common anti-team pick because of that.

Lyn was a pretty obvious pick as well due to him valued at 5 points and isn't very good. Moon at least has shown some capabilities in foreign tournaments. And he also meant you couldn't lose anti the first 5 weeks.

I had picked San at beginning for my 3rd anti. Before week two I traded him for Maka because at the time I thought everyone in NSHs is bad like everyone else and was afraid to see San play and get some lucky wins. I did pick up Sage because he got top 4 in the LG 3D tournament which really helped my momentum. A lot of people will criticize that I trading Maka for PuMa in the small time frame when PuMa traded out to EG is bullshit. But honestly it wasn't even a good trade, If I stayed with Maka I'd lost 2 less points because TSL won all their games.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 02 2011 17:52 GMT
#2923
Great season guys. Can't wait to do this again I learned so much about so many players I would normally have never heard of. Can't wait to see how much its going to cost to own DRG next season :/

I promise to return to the top of the leaderboard next season and will share my team and moves again. 23 trades and no regrets
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
September 02 2011 18:37 GMT
#2924
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:28 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:17 Primadog wrote:
Sleep be damn, I am liveblogging the fantasy results

First up, a reminder of the fantasy scoring system

Scoring
+ Show Spoiler +
Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.

Team Scoring:
4-0 Victory: 8 Points
4-1 Victory: 6 Points
4-2 Victory: 4 Points
4-3 Victory: 2 Points
3-4 Defeat: 1 Point
2-4 Defeat: 0 Points
1-4 Defeat: -1 Points
0-4 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1


Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic


On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 19:49:33
September 02 2011 19:37 GMT
#2925
On September 03 2011 03:37 Fanta_Rules wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:28 Primadog wrote:
[quote]

Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic


On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!


So that's why 11 out of 17 of my trades netted +1 or less. 6 out 17 is 35% success rate. But I guess that's not too far from 99% like you said.

Trading is so great. that's why if you sort the leaderboard by trade gain I'm only rank 6. And everyone traded better than me didn't even break top 40. out of the top 10 traders I'm the only one that got top 10 rank, with Doomville next at rank 14, MrBorto at rank 40, and everyone else rank 70-500.

Everything I want happens, that's why I kept Jjaki and Sage for 6 weeks and they scored like 4 points total in 3 series which nearly cost me the fantasy league. I guess it's skill only if who you think will win wins, cause you know the players and coaches better than everyone else, if you are wrong someone else got lucky. You know what pisses me off, that even though you made the best predictions possible you didn't even break top 200, that's just extreme bad luck. You deserve number one, you will probably win the next fantasy season so I shouldn't even bother entering.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 02 2011 19:42 GMT
#2926
NESTEA WHYYYY
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GenoPewPew
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States347 Posts
September 02 2011 20:09 GMT
#2927
I just drafted my guys with the intent that I wasn't going to make any trades and just try to win that way
Caster for GosuGamers.Net and www.binary-gaming.org for my team!
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 02 2011 20:18 GMT
#2928
Stop with the hate guys.

Everyone had a different strategy going in with varying degrees of effectiveness. What some call luck, I call calculated odds.

It was nice discussing teams/players all season. Let's not turn this awesome, peaceful thread into a shit storm for no reason. Remember this was all for fun.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 21:57:09
September 02 2011 21:41 GMT
#2929
mrbamboo played fair and within bound of the game rules. It's not like he accidentally trip over the game server like waxangel did to get a better score >.>

Congrats bamboo, I look forward to our interview!



PS Before I launch off another mob, waxangel did not trip over the server to get a better score. I was merely setting up a hypothetical. Besides, he still lost to mine even with Curious and Clide getting a double all-kill.
Thank God and gunrun.
Tanstaafl
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
September 03 2011 00:39 GMT
#2930
I love how the last-place finisher (with -26) is TheWorstfOu, who didn't even make any trades to intentionally tank the team.
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 03 2011 00:41 GMT
#2931
On September 03 2011 09:39 Tanstaafl wrote:
I love how the last-place finisher (with -26) is TheWorstfOu, who didn't even make any trades to intentionally tank the team.

That antiteam is magnificent. Imagine how much better it would be had he put DRG on there.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
September 03 2011 00:54 GMT
#2932
On September 03 2011 09:41 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 09:39 Tanstaafl wrote:
I love how the last-place finisher (with -26) is TheWorstfOu, who didn't even make any trades to intentionally tank the team.

That antiteam is magnificent. Imagine how much better it would be had he put DRG on there.



Almost as magnificent as this anti team. The other guy tied for last rank - http://www.teamliquid.net/fantasy/gstl/Team.php?team=doomshroom&r=1

Too bad he picked up qxc who scored an all kill out of no where, or he'd gotten for worse a score.
Tanstaafl
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom123 Posts
September 03 2011 00:56 GMT
#2933
On September 03 2011 09:41 babylon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 09:39 Tanstaafl wrote:
I love how the last-place finisher (with -26) is TheWorstfOu, who didn't even make any trades to intentionally tank the team.

That antiteam is magnificent. Imagine how much better it would be had he put DRG on there.


Well, the worst anti-team belonged to doomshroom, who also finished with -26 but is ranked second-last due to some tie-breaking voodoo. He picked DRG, Bomber, and LosirA for a penalty of -62.
AtariJesus
Profile Joined October 2009
United States54 Posts
September 03 2011 08:47 GMT
#2934
Hahahaha 8th bitches! Sorry had to celebrate somewhere. GG to all that played and gl hf next season
AtariJesus
Profile Joined October 2009
United States54 Posts
September 03 2011 08:50 GMT
#2935
On September 03 2011 05:09 GenoPewPew wrote:
I just drafted my guys with the intent that I wasn't going to make any trades and just try to win that way


Considering teams have staggered playing schedules. That wasn't the smartest choice to get the most chances to make points. Its about timing your trades with the playing schedule and then just hope for good luck.
mYNDIG
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway179 Posts
September 03 2011 08:56 GMT
#2936
Shouldn't we be able to trade now? Kinda needs to change my team before the playoffs!
We all die in the end
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
September 03 2011 09:08 GMT
#2937
On September 03 2011 17:56 mYNDIG wrote:
Shouldn't we be able to trade now? Kinda needs to change my team before the playoffs!


The season is over, the fantasy league doesn't extend into the playoffs.
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 09:10:07
September 03 2011 09:09 GMT
#2938
wp bamboo <3
d=(^_^)z
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
September 03 2011 09:23 GMT
#2939
On September 03 2011 04:37 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 03:37 Fanta_Rules wrote:
On September 02 2011 22:41 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
[quote]

On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.

You didn't get lucky "sometimes". You got lucky all the time. In fact, everything you did turned out exactly the way you wanted it to. If I didn't know better I'd think you were from the future. That's not the case, though. You just got extremely lucky with 99% of your trades and won't have the same amount of success next season. That's what pisses me off.

Deal with it, scumbag!


You know what pisses me off, that even though you made the best predictions possible you didn't even break top 200, that's just extreme bad luck.

I was in the top 40 during most of the season, always about 10 points below you. At one point, during the middle of the season, I was 6th. Then EG (I had both PuMa and HuK on my team), qxc and IM's coach happened. They screwed me over so bad that I stopped caring and didn't make a single trade the last few weeks.

I made some reasonable predictions, but absurd things happened. With just 10% of your luck, I would have won this thing. Ezpz.
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 03 2011 09:32 GMT
#2940
Thus starts a beautiful, eternal rivalry between Fanta and bamboo. Who shall win Season 2?
Thank God and gunrun.
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