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ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
September 02 2011 13:00 GMT
#2901
On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?



@-@ You're from the future aren't you? I.. just .. how the fuck did you predict that?
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
September 02 2011 13:32 GMT
#2902
No. Fucking. Way.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 13:53:09
September 02 2011 13:41 GMT
#2903
On September 02 2011 04:28 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 04:23 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:11 mrbamboo wrote:
On September 02 2011 04:08 babylon wrote:
On September 02 2011 03:56 mrbamboo wrote:
Here what it comes down to.

If fOu does 3-4 or better, godemperor beats me by having fOu on his team.
If Bomber get's more than 1 kill, MinoMino beats me.

How can I win? Bomber loses with only 1 kill, but ST beats fOu 4-2 or 4-1.
if ST win 4-1. Mino and I tie for first
if ST win 4-2, Mino , godemperor, and I three way tie.
if Bomber loses his first match but fOu loses 1-4 I WIN ALONE BIATCH.
if Bomber does better than 1 win MinoMino wins alone.
if fOu does 3-4 or better but Bomber only gets 1 or 0 kills. godemperor wins alone.

I'd say chances are. MinoMino wins 75%. godemperor wins 20%. Me win 5%.

Most likely scenario that I can win? Bomber gets sniped second game (leenock, or any weird TvT. like TheBest!)and then July or Squirtle reverse all kill fOu for a 4-1 ST victory.

I can dream right?

Oh. or I convince Wax that I actually traded Smart for Clide before he broke the fantasy league and retroactively give me them points!
Conspiracy theory - MinoMino canceled his Clide trade last minute but the change got lost because sYstim is super jealous of me and didn't want me to win so he hacked the fantasy league after last night's results.

Bomber's going to be tired and jetlagged. His flight got delayed by the hurricane and he just got back to Korea today. Hasn't been able to practice much, by his own admission.

Good luck.


You know if bomber gets sniped and then Squirtle/July all kills, which isn't toooo surprising, I can still pull the craziest friggin win out of my ass. :D

Do you think they'll put in Squirtle and July over Ace and Curious, though? ST's already in the playoffs no matter what happens -- it might even be beneficial if they lose this to lock IM out of the playoffs -- so they will probably throw in some of their B-teamers. Curious is apparently ST's best Zerg -- he just has nerve issues and chokes onstage a bit -- and they use him quite often to give him experience, so I wouldn't be surprised to see them use Curious over July. They do use Squirtle more often than Ace, I'll give you that much.


Curious is actually a pretty strong player so I don't have a problem with picking him over July at all. Either way. Curious can take two games then Squirtle to win the ace. 4-2 Startale with bomber taking 1 game means godemperor, minomino, and I 3-way tie. Which would be pretty awesome actually.


On September 02 2011 11:50 mrbamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 08:37 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:33 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 08:19 Primadog wrote:
On September 02 2011 07:17 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 19:39 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:35 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:28 Primadog wrote:
On September 01 2011 18:17 Primadog wrote:
Sleep be damn, I am liveblogging the fantasy results

First up, a reminder of the fantasy scoring system

Scoring
+ Show Spoiler +
Player Scoring:
Lineup Appearance: +1 Point*
Game Win: +2 Points per win
Game Loss: -1 Point
2-Game Streak Break: +1 Point**
3-Game Streak Break: +2 Points**
Your Player's Team Wins: +1 Point***

Tie-breaks are decided by the team captain's score.

*Point given just for appearing in a match, regardless of win or loss. Only counts once, i.e. if MC goes 4-0, he still only gets 1 appearance point.
**Given when a pro-gamer defeats a pro-gamer on the opposing team who is on a two or three game winning streak. Streaks do not carry over between matches; all streaks must occur in the same match.
***This counts for all players on the team's roster, even if they did not play in the match.

Team Scoring:
4-0 Victory: 8 Points
4-1 Victory: 6 Points
4-2 Victory: 4 Points
4-3 Victory: 2 Points
3-4 Defeat: 1 Point
2-4 Defeat: 0 Points
1-4 Defeat: -1 Points
0-4 Defeat: -2 Points

Miscellaneous
Trade Tax: -1


Top-19 teams that will be affected by F.United vs oGs:

-5 godemperor has MC, hero, luvsic, soccer
-7 Nexic has soccer
-8 maze has hero
-10 pretensile has TheSTC
-11 GenoPewPew has Thorzain, hero
-12 xxxxxxb has NaNiwa, TOP
-14 Zasz. has Hero
-17 Toganas has Soccer
-18 oursblanc has oGs
-18 Doomsville has oGs, TheSTC, Soccer
-19 Archerylady has Hero, luvsic


On the antiteam side, Lyn is on the antiteam of the following fantasies: mrbamboo, -5 godemperor, -8 maze., -10 pretensile, -10 MinoMino, -11 GenoPewPew, -12 Mattchew, -12 xxxxxxb, -14 AmICool, -14 Zasz., -17 Toganas, -18 oursblanc

others: maze. antiteam Inca; MinoMino antiteam Thorzain; GenoPewPew antiteam Moon; Mattchew antiteam huk, fenix; MidnightSun001 antiteam Zenio; Toganas antiteam Huk, Inca; mocavious sam antiteam inca;


With soccer's win and luvsic at-bat, godemperor has already made up suffiicent points to surpass mrbamboo in rankings (2pts from soccer's win, 2pts from either soccer or luvsic win, 1 \ 3 pts from a F.united win or oGs win).


Week 10:
F.United
  • Soccer 3pts
  • Fenix 8pts
  • Others 1pt
  • Team 4pts


oGs
  • Cezanne 2pts
  • Luvsic 2pts
  • others 0pt
  • Team 0 pt


TSL
  • Clide 10pts
  • others 1pt
  • Team 8pts


MVP
  • all players 0pt
  • Team -2pts


I think that's correct so far.


Unbelievable how close the final leaderboard will be, even to the last day. Here's an analysis of the final point distribution:

ST vs FXK

One way of looking at each team is that besides the 1pt each member get for winning, their players has a maximum allocation of points amongst themselves:

4 wins, 2pt each = 8pts
streak break = 3pts
being the last player on deck = 1pt
= 12pts to distribute

for the losing team, the maximum point allocation is 6pts (3 wins, 2 pts each, no possibility of streak or last-man-on-deck).

Therefore, the set can provide a theoretical maximum of 18 pts to a fantasy team, without accounting for if that team has "ST" or "FXK". Only pretensile has ST on his team, and godemperor has FXKorea on his. Therefore, my follow up analysis of the leaderboard will stop at that cut-off point of -18.

Additionally, if a fantasy team has only players on one side, they can only score a maximum of 12pts.


  • mrbamboo - Fruitdealer
  • -0 godemperor + FXK - Trickster
  • -3 MinoMino + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -4 Nexic + Noblesse - Choya, Fruitdealer, Trickster
  • -4 Zasz + Nobless - Hwangsin
  • -8 maze + Bomber - Fruitdealer
  • -10 Mattchew + Gumiho (AHHH WHY DID YOU KEPT FENIX ON YOUR ANTITEAM)
  • -10 pretensile + Gumiho, Noblesse, team ST - Trickster
  • -11 GenoPewPew + Bomber, Ace, GuineaPig
  • -17 Archerlady + Bomber, Gumiho, Curious - GuineaPig




  • maze cannot win, because his active roster is same as MinoMino's.
  • Nexic will not win, Zasz will always beat him in every permutation.
  • If FXK wins, godemperor beats mrbamboo.
  • If Bomber wins a single set and ST wins, MinoMino will beat mrbamboo .




if Bomber wins 1 and ST wins we tie, he doesn't beat me. OKAY?

MVP isn't playing, I don't know why ou are listing Noblesse Hwangsin and GuineaPig.

Tonight's the night, Lucky will finally get lucky and beat Bomber, and then some unlikely hero, like ST_Virus, will all kill fOu.

AND I SHALL EMERGE A VICTOR. AND SOME ONE HAS TO LIKE EAT A SHOE OR SHIRT OR SOMETHING.

PS: I kinda hoped the weather would keep Bomber stranded in United States for the match. Can you imagine how much shit would I have gotten if I won like that?


I did not ask for these powers.

I can't believe I won without a tie breaker. Out of all the fucking scenarios, bomber losing to lucky followed by an all kill was THE only fucking way I could win without a tie. holy shit.

Btw I've noticed some haters out there. Seriously I enjoy the game and like to talk about it. It's not like I come in here and everything I say is serious. It's a discussion thread for fantasy league, which is what I do. I just talk about all the different things can happen, analyze some numbers, speculate on some players, and joke around with the other people that are talking about the fantasy. Fucking relax. Sure I got lucky sometimes. Luck is half the game in fantasy, it's not so different from poker, it's about managing your odds and risks, after you make your decisions you sit and watch and see what happens. It's not so different from poker. This is the last week and I'm all in with a bunch of players who had better hands. I had one out on the river and I happen to hit it. But all my other hands previous to this week I've shown you exactly what I thought was good or bad and sometimes you win and sometimes you lose, I thought for the most part I've just chose my plays carefully. Those who complain that I trade for a lot of starters, well sometimes there's a clear favorite in the match up, and pocket rockets will win most of the time.
Archerylady
Profile Joined January 2011
277 Posts
September 02 2011 13:58 GMT
#2904
grats mister
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
September 02 2011 14:03 GMT
#2905
grats mr bamboo... I hate you and fenix so much right now
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 14:13:07
September 02 2011 14:12 GMT
#2906
gg Bamboo ! Impressive 1st season you had here.
Edit : I end up 164th, not too too bad.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 02 2011 14:16 GMT
#2907
#5...I'll take it. And within 4 points of mrbamboo too.

Fun season guys! Can't wait until next time.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 17:35:35
September 02 2011 14:20 GMT
#2908
Grats mrbamboo! I can't believe it turned exactly the way you needed it. It was an awesome season, thanks for all your discussion and suggestions, along with all the other contributors like mattchew and doomsville
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
September 02 2011 15:08 GMT
#2909
Well played bamboo. I think you lead for most of the season as well.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33692 Posts
September 02 2011 16:34 GMT
#2910
#1 through #12 separated by one point each, fucking tight season o_O
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 02 2011 16:57 GMT
#2911
mrbamboo, man. Wow. Congrats!

You should thank Irene for delaying Bomber's flight! Who knows what might have happened had he gotten back to Korea on time?
Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
September 02 2011 16:58 GMT
#2912
oh wow....
Thank God and gunrun.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 02 2011 17:13 GMT
#2913
Dang, missed top 100 by 8 places (we're all tied until #97 not sure how it's determined.)

However, I got 3rd for most points gained by trading (+46) behind MrBorto and dapanman

My anti team killed me! XD
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 02 2011 17:15 GMT
#2914
Well I'm pretty happy nonetheless! Highest placing team that didn't pick DRG by a huge margin (I don't count teams that traded him away half way through). If I had drafted DRG I would have been right at the top with the rest of you ballers.

Secret to my success: only -6 from the antiteam thanks to my awesome NesTea antiteam pick. Plus trading every single week to try and make up for really poor draft choices.
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 17:19:05
September 02 2011 17:18 GMT
#2915
IMO, most amazing performance: Archerylady.

Getting that high without making a single trade is amazing. Especially considering how easy some of the trades were.
zarepath
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1626 Posts
September 02 2011 17:25 GMT
#2916
I got 86th place with zero trades on my active roster. But I lost 27 points just off of my stupid anti-team... if I hadn't, guess who I would've tied with (without using DRG once, save on my anti)? Mrbamboo himself.

Next season? Make fewer stupid decisions on my anti team
"Your efforts you put in will never betray you." - Flash | "If I'm not good enough, I don't wanna win." - Naniwa
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 17:29:08
September 02 2011 17:27 GMT
#2917
On September 03 2011 01:34 Waxangel wrote:
#1 through #12 separated by one point each, fucking tight season o_O


Damn that was close. Yeah seriously godemperor and I were tied and he got -1 for FXK going 1-4. MinoMino only needed a single win from bomber + ST win to tie it up with me. The only way for this to get any tighter is if Bomber won the first match and Curious only got 3 kills after. Then I'd literally win the 3-way tie breaker due to DRG captain.

Crazy good games. I feel like I played too safe the last few weeks after I got ahead. I didn't want to take as many risks and lose my lead. TheBest trade that I talked up few weeks ago comes to mind, shouldn't have canceled that in favor of safe starter wins for mere 1-2 point gains. The only real gamble I took was on jjakji and sage doing well, I kept them both for like 6 weeks and they netted maybe 4 points for me, really wasted great potential for those 2 spots consider how high their trade values were. I got pretty lucky in the end to come out an unlikely win. I only said Bomber is gonna lose because that was the only way I could win.

Looking forward to next season. I'll definitely continue to share my thoughts and speculations here
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 02 2011 17:29 GMT
#2918
Yea half the battle is designing a smart anti-team!

Any anti-team that includes DRG is not that

But nice team nonetheless. That's why I was really against grabbing nani/thor at the start of the season. Few options to trade for midway through. Most people got extremely lucky because Moon/Lyn decided they were going to focus 100% on WC3. If they practiced SC2 exclusively, good chance that Lyn/Moon would have grabbed some kills and got more anti-points for some people.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
September 02 2011 17:33 GMT
#2919
On September 03 2011 02:29 DoomsVille wrote:
Yea half the battle is designing a smart anti-team!

Any anti-team that includes DRG is not that

But nice team nonetheless. That's why I was really against grabbing nani/thor at the start of the season. Few options to trade for midway through. Most people got extremely lucky because Moon/Lyn decided they were going to focus 100% on WC3. If they practiced SC2 exclusively, good chance that Lyn/Moon would have grabbed some kills and got more anti-points for some people.


Lyn was probably one of the best anti team members, did he get a single win? That's like -2 points over the whole season for 5 trade value if I remember right.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
September 02 2011 17:34 GMT
#2920
He did not get a single win no.

So unfair that people got away with the huge Nani/Thor gamble
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