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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7021 Posts
June 14 2011 11:53 GMT
#1261
Kiwi and Slush to Liquid!!! plz
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
stuish
Profile Joined March 2011
United States97 Posts
June 14 2011 11:54 GMT
#1262
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.


User was temp banned for this post.
stuish
Profile Joined March 2011
United States97 Posts
June 14 2011 12:01 GMT
#1263
On June 14 2011 07:50 Destiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:


so wat u r saying is that kiwi + slush r true gamers who love esports and u and catz are just trying to get rich playin games lol?



lol this ^^^^^^^
Linwelin
Profile Joined March 2011
Ireland7554 Posts
June 14 2011 12:03 GMT
#1264
On June 14 2011 21:01 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:50 Destiny wrote:
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:


so wat u r saying is that kiwi + slush r true gamers who love esports and u and catz are just trying to get rich playin games lol?



lol this ^^^^^^^


You realise Destiny was trolling right?
Fuck Razor and Death Prophet
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
June 14 2011 12:07 GMT
#1265
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.



are you retarded?

saying we need to be able to afford to eat food isnt the same as saying its about the money
rootfan
Profile Joined May 2011
France31 Posts
June 14 2011 12:23 GMT
#1266
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.


You clearly know what you are talking about. How I wish I were like you, full of knowledge and no need for income.

Posts like this seriously makes me wanna cry.
<3 ROOT <3
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
June 14 2011 12:28 GMT
#1267
hmm root fan - how about a new id ? then hehe - or keeping it oldschool ? hehe
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
mechavoc
Profile Joined December 2010
United States664 Posts
June 14 2011 12:36 GMT
#1268
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.


So funny,
So many people just don't get it.
And just come with the you are selling out blah blah.


Think about these two choices.
#1 You had a good run of it but were not able to get major sponsors to be able to support yourselves ( Pay rent, buy food, pay for travel to tournaments every month etc... ). In addition you spent a great deal of your time taking care of the details of running a team, and trying to get sponsors so your gameplayed suffered and you didn't reach your max potential.

It just didn't work out so you shut the doors and all go your separate ways.

#2 You had a good run of it but were not able to get major sponsors to be able to support yourselves ( Pay rent, buy food, pay for travel to tournaments every month etc... ). In addition you spent a great deal of your time taking care of the details of running a team and trying to get sponsors, so your gameplayed suffered and you didn't reach your max potential.

It just didn't work out so you talk with a solid well established team who can provide the support needed so the team members can focus soley on being top players. You are able to keep most of the team together in this new place.

This well established team has a contract which requires the players to participate in promoting the team and the sport with appearances, streaming, posting on forums etc.. Unfortunatley two of the teams players did not want to be obligated to do that so they went their separate ways.

So what sounds like the better path ?

For further reference on selling out I would direct you to listen to the tool song "Hooker with a P***s" and ask yourself are you the OGT kid in that song? ( I would put a link but think that is a no-no)

rootfan
Profile Joined May 2011
France31 Posts
June 14 2011 12:37 GMT
#1269
On June 14 2011 21:28 Special Endrey wrote:
hmm root fan - how about a new id ? then hehe - or keeping it oldschool ? hehe


No, I doubt I gonna change it. I am still a rootfan, even though there is no ROOT anymore. Even though I will continue to be a fan of the players and their new team(s) I will forever be a rootfan
<3 ROOT <3
Apahota
Profile Joined January 2011
United States41 Posts
June 14 2011 12:39 GMT
#1270
On June 14 2011 07:50 Destiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


so wat u r saying is that kiwi + slush r true gamers who love esports and u and catz are just trying to get rich playin games lol?

naww dude u need sponsers and stuff like that to get you out to the big tournaments anyway otherwise the travel fee and hotels and all that would be really expensive not about getting rich itd b good to support yourself off a salary so you can focus this as your main job getting better and sutff so plz stop trolling root
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
June 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#1271
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.



Is this some kind of joke? So many absolutely ignorant posts in this thread it's ridiculous.

Of course it's sad that ROOT split up as they were such a fun team full of friends who tried to build up a team from scratch and go big, but it unfortunately didn't work out at a business level, so the right decision was definitely made to switch to coL where they can now just focus on becoming better players.

Good luck to all the Ex-Root players including Kiwi and Slush!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
June 14 2011 12:45 GMT
#1272
On June 14 2011 20:51 joshboy42 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 18:40 Svartstol wrote:
Badmouthing old members isn't good for anyone. You are all grown ups and play SC2 on a professional level and a speach like yours, Drewbie, is something you could expect from 14yo Stan badmouthing his teammates in 3v3.

If you want to project the image of professionalism, this is not the way to go. Especially not on TL public forum.

I'm glad though that you worked something out with Complexity, I'm looking forward seeing you guys in upcomming tournaments.

I don't understand why people think drewbie was bad mouthing slush and kiwi in his post. If you actually read what he says he's not bad mouthing them at all. Simply shedding some light on the situation and everyone's motivations behind moving to coL or leaving the clan at that point.

He tried to say it in a good way by stating he`s perfectly ok with everything Kiwi did.
Between the lines he was still complaining that Kiwi/Slush are seen as star players and Kiwi didn't do enough for the team, wants too much money, etc. Not really bad mouthing but this stuff shouldn't be talked in public.
Bokchoy
Profile Joined June 2011
55 Posts
June 14 2011 13:26 GMT
#1273
The problem is that KiWi already has money from poker and he doesn't need to treat the game as a business, he doesn't need to spend his time getting his name out there and marketing himself or streaming or anything


LOL somehow remember when i was not working and i was eating my roomate food

WHY , WHy does he had food he wasnt working either oh thats so unfair
holycrapitsTony
Profile Joined October 2010
United States330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-14 13:36:47
June 14 2011 13:33 GMT
#1274
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT.


How is this at all relevant? Sounds like some envy over Slush's recent stardom.
NYE: when the match loading screen comes up "zvz" it's like finding out you have hiv
Yakuza
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway18 Posts
June 14 2011 13:37 GMT
#1275
The funny thing is that now Kiwi and slush can join REAL teams..
Starcraft 2 greatest game
Slaytilost
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands968 Posts
June 14 2011 13:40 GMT
#1276
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.


Because money is bad amirite? And the government is only trying to get you?

Please realise that at the end of the day, even great people like CatZ and Drewbie have to eat and drink, and as sad as it is that costs money.
Yiska
Profile Joined November 2010
141 Posts
June 14 2011 13:44 GMT
#1277
On June 14 2011 20:54 stuish wrote:
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On June 14 2011 07:45 coL.drewbie wrote:
LOL this thread is disgusting, some people in here really have their heads up their asses. Lets try and clear some things up. Me and CatZ tried very hard to make ROOT work, and to get our own sponsors and make it on our own. Unfortunately it has proved to be much, much harder than we ever thought, and even if we found 1 or 2 good sponsors, it would still not make us even close to enough money to compensate for all the hours it takes us to run ROOT. We did it for a very long time, not making any money at all and paying our own way to tournaments, because we loved the team and Starcraft 2, but unfortunately Starcraft 2 is not just a game for us, it is our livelihood, and we need to treat it as a business, and ROOT just didn't work as a business. Sponsors are looking for teams that have players that are willing to put themselves out there in the community and get exposure and do interviews and make videos and promote their product. We couldn't even get KiWiKaKi or Slush to post on the root-gaming.com website ffs, they only treated SC2 as a game, and that is 100% fine with me, they are amazing players and friends but they don't give a shit about the business side. The ROOT members that went to complexity are willing to work hard to make Starcraft work on a business level and complexity is a huge organization that has had many years of experience supporting the top players in the world and marketing them and helping them in every way. Just think about IdrA, before he joined EG he wasn't making any money, but EG showed IdrA how to treat the game as a business, and make training videos and cast and coach and stream and do tons of interviews and get himself out there. Complexity can give us this amazing support, so that we can play Starcraft full time, which in the end is best for the fans and viewers because it will produce better quality players and games. So I for one, am really happy to be joining complexity, as sad as I am that Slush and Kiwi will not be joining us, I do think that it is for the best, and I can promise that from now on I will step up my game, as I have more time to dedicate to practicing now, and I am a lot more motivated since I don't have to deal with running a team anymore.

It would be nice if everyone stopped bashing on me / catz / minigun / ddoro / destiny, and treating slush / kiwi like superstars LOL I know slush did really amazing at the last MLG but I did beat him in the group stages and in a tournament finals not too long ago and at MLG dallas 2010 finals so I am not sure why everyone thinks he is levels above everyone else in ROOT. I know that KiWiKaKi has always been our all-star player, but any team he joins will be sadly disappointed because he is asking for a LOT of money, and he is not even willing to post on the forums.

Anyways, I loved ROOT but it is time to move on, we are still the same people that you know and love, only now we have the support of a huge team to publicize / promote / send us to events which will only make us better players .


well atleast u had the balls to admit it was all about the money, unlike CatZ who lied, and we all knew.

in my opinion, you did sell your friends and team down the river.

only one i feel bad for is minigun, he had true potential that just went to waste in root and now in coL. he should have looked elsewhere.

o well, noobs will be noobs.


dat obvious troll. Ban plz.
Rylaji
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden580 Posts
June 14 2011 13:57 GMT
#1278
I dont care much about this really except that I am interest in where KiWi ends up. Slush might be somewhat interesting aswell, but I personally think CatZ and Drewbie are horribly overrated. I dont mean to bash, but there might be a reason that KiWi can ask for more money.

As for Destiny, as long as he makes money to support his kid and gets better Im happy =)
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rootfan
Profile Joined May 2011
France31 Posts
June 14 2011 14:01 GMT
#1279
On June 14 2011 22:37 Yakuza wrote:
The funny thing is that now Kiwi and slush can join REAL teams..


Have you even bothered to read drewbies posts? I kindly ask you to please do before you continue posting in this thread. Then maybe you'll realize one of the reasons KiWiKaki (and Slush) were so happy in ROOT was the lack of obligations. So maybe, they don't even desire a so-called "real" team.

Absolutely no disrespect to any of Slush, KiWiKaKi or Fayth. I love them all, just pointing out what should be pretty obvious to anyone who actually read drewbies posts. KiWiKaKi does not wish to be bound by strict contracts, he just wanna play the game. Which among other reasons, made ROOT the perfect team for him. Please think it through before you pretty much say ROOT was holding KiWiKaKi and Slush back.



<3 ROOT <3
Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
June 14 2011 14:19 GMT
#1280
Pretty crazy to say this, but this time GosITerran was proven right....
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