EPTToo me, Tasteless is doing an absolute great job of both taking time to explain the players train of thougts with very basic things to new viewers, which is a thing most casters dont care about, and being able to analyze and understand the game on a very high level. In between this he's being hillarious, explaining what's going on and doing some play by play plus giving viewers a good picture of what's going on off-screen in the game.
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
Too me, Tasteless is doing an absolute great job of both taking time to explain the players train of thougts with very basic things to new viewers, which is a thing most casters dont care about, and being able to analyze and understand the game on a very high level. In between this he's being hillarious, explaining what's going on and doing some play by play plus giving viewers a good picture of what's going on off-screen in the game. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On July 12 2012 21:18 SenorChang wrote: he said it was his opinion, he's entitled to it, whether it's correct or not But he's not entitled to not have it challenged. | ||
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Goibon
New Zealand8185 Posts
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Voltaire
United States1485 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On July 12 2012 22:04 Voltaire wrote: I think Tasteless and Artosis should talk about as much sex as they can. I also think they should use really graphic sexual imagery. yeah and to top if of, one day they should just stream videos of animal sex from youtube and make sounds as if 2 dongs were clashing in the background. then they could have swordfights (with real swords obviously) and tasteless can wear his onepiece-swimsuit with a bathing cap. Personally I feel like there arent enough onepieceswimsuits and bathing caps on air, tasteless def needs more of those in order to become a better caster. Please take this as constructive critisism, no flaming. | ||
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w.s
Sweden850 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote: I'm a big fan of tastosis, but does anybody else find tasteless slightly inexperienced as a caster? (inexperienced as in, making rookie mistakes, not his actual experience) I don't know about him being commentator in bw, but from the gsl's i noticed he's 1.) overly repetitive in diction- for example "he's so SOLID", "he's playing so GOOD", "it's going to be so COOL". I don't understand why he can't use... more descriptive words whenever he's trying to add something to the cast. Not only that, he just constantly overuses these words, making him sound like a broken record sometimes. It's weird since he seems quite articulate in casual settings. 2.) cuts Artosis off too frequently, at the wrong times -only to add "he's so GOOD" Artosis is the commentator, let him get technical with his part, and cut him off when u have to (ie when something happens on the map). 3.) needs to be more PROFESSIONAL -I'm not even talking about the eating and drinking during matches. i don't think this "relaxed mindset" during casting is so detrimental to the event,,, but.. - Please don't mention "sex" on-air again, or at least not say the word so downright. Esports is still largely unaccepted in society, even in korea (i'm a korean, so i know). If you don't act to the bare minimum on one of esports premier events, how do you expect people to start taking this sport seriously? **THIS DOES NOT MEAN he should stop fooling around and start casting seriously. the Lax casting is a part of his charm, for the billionth time i've mentioned. Needing more professionalism DOESNT mean they need to stop being hilarious. I know i might come off sounding too critical, but i realized Tastosis is and will most likely be the "voice" of starcraft 2 (for the foreigners, at least). Both casters are very likable, and i would like nothing more than the very best, since i'm one of those people who watches GSL's due to entertainment value i get from listening to you guys. Thanks **To the people who obviously is being overprotective of our casters, realize that this is NOTHING personal. Throwing out these facts isn't going to hurt anybody. Tastosis has said this before they have no limits on what they can say during air, sex isn't an offensive word, or a word that should be used cautiously, do you watch tv? sex is commonly used. | ||
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nOlifeTERRAN
United States153 Posts
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
On July 12 2012 22:09 NEEDZMOAR wrote: yeah and to top if of, one day they should just stream videos of animal sex from youtube and make sounds as if 2 dongs were clashing in the background. then they could have swordfights (with real swords obviously) and tasteless can wear his onepiece-swimsuit with a bathing cap. Personally I feel like there arent enough onepieceswimsuits and bathing caps on air, tasteless def needs more of those in order to become a better caster. Please take this as constructive critisism, no flaming. I wholeheartedly agree with this post. | ||
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drumsolo86
Singapore7 Posts
"He's so far ahead." "He's so behind." "He's so..." Its really getting to that stage where some of us have noticed that his commentary is almost like clockwork. It doesn't help he doesnt have that ingame knowledge as much as Artosis (guessing he doesnt play the game as much anymore, not noticing trends on Korean ladder) but the fact that Tasteless is really starting to get 'tasteless', cliche as it sounds. His commentary is starting to get stale and he has some insecurity issues when he's up there casting with Artosis. I don't know if its obvious but I've picked that up from a long time ago - he's really got some insecurity issues. Making sweeping statements and calling the game early, "ALRIGHT I GUESS ITS GG at decisive points of the battle" is really starting to get to him. The game feels like, well at least to me, Tasteless just waiting for the moment which HE thinks the game is over and mouthing the golden words "Alright, onto game number 2." Sadly, it feels like he just wants to get the thing done and over with. Not sure if I'm just delusional or what, but that's my honest 2 cents. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Fleshcut
Germany592 Posts
First of all I think that the quality of casters is mainly decided by the first look. At first I liked Husky, Day9, Tastosis, djWHEAT, Doa, Khaldor and TaKe and I still like them. People who never made an impact in the first seconds I listened kinda fall back even though they are technically not bad casters like Wolf or Mowltrap (is that how he is spelled?). It's just some weird and very subjective way of judging but if I do so, others might aswell. Also very important when it comes to judging casters is my personal mood. Sometimes I came home from a shitty day of work and I watched tournaments and the casters seemed way worse than on a weekend with free time. My next point - and this is why I mentioned the Artosis is the beginning - is that Tasteless has a hard time next to Artosis who is so much more analytical, less repetitive, damn funny and also has the smoother voice. I think there aren't many people who can cast for such a long time next to Artosis without being eaten by his presence. So of course, Tasteless looks bad from time to time but it's actually not that bad if you look closer. And because of all the points above we shouldn't really critisize this hard, I think. The OP is kinda right with his opinion and expressed it well but many others here just shit on casters/Tasteless for the fun of it. TL;DR: Artosis is sexy. | ||
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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schaf
Germany1326 Posts
On July 12 2012 22:04 Voltaire wrote: I think Tasteless and Artosis should talk about as much sex as they can. I also think they should use really graphic sexual imagery. haha  I really enjoyed Tasteless today, don't get what people find wrong about him. Was really sad to see another great tournament (think it was ROG) announcing that they will fly in wolf and khaldor for this. These guys are just not really my thing  | ||
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GeorgeH
United Kingdom190 Posts
On July 12 2012 04:58 ref4 wrote: My constructive criticism for Tasteless: 2. Since I am a DRG fan, I actually noticed the fact that Tasteless have actually NEVER said DRG's real ID which is DongRaeGu. He is introduced as such by the Korean street-fighter voice guy however every time, every FUCKING time Tasteless (and you too Artosis) just uses the acronym DRG. He doesn't do that for MarineKingPrime (uses MKP instead of MarineKing every time) is it because he feels silly saying "Dong" or what is up with that? I see a lot of people giving good constructive criticism in here, but this? I don't even... | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51481 Posts
The best casters/commentators are the one who knows the most and the other who brings a different aspect, it doesn't have to be a funny aspect it could be just the knowledge of being there and have done it, for example football commentators are always in pairs, you have the guy with all the stats and the good voice who does the majority of talking about the live action with added stats to throw in to keep viewers interested if the game is boring, and you have the seasoned professional at his side, giving his view and opinion on the game or even tactics (like Gary Neville did and Andy Grey) im sure this is the same in other sports in America too. The list is endless for commentator duo's like the footballing ones throughout sports Boxing/Snooker/Cricket/Tennis it's all based around the same sort of style Tastosis are bringing to the GSL every day and there other adventures. One tells you everything that is going on to the upmost indepth knowledge whilst the other is dumbing things down for the lower ended viewers and also throwing in funnies whilst the play is not all that entertaining (take the first 5-6minutes of a quick expo game) | ||
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ThePiedPiper
Canada102 Posts
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NEEDZMOAR
Sweden1277 Posts
On July 12 2012 22:52 Pandemona wrote: So do you want two casters discussing high end level mechanics that only GMs would understand? Or would you like one guy (Artosis) doing this and the other (Tasteless) being more noob friendly for those in Masters league and below to help make them follow in the loop? I'd much prefer the second. The best casters/commentators are the one who knows the most and the other who brings a different aspect, it doesn't have to be a funny aspect it could be just the knowledge of being there and have done it, for example football commentators are always in pairs, you have the guy with all the stats and the good voice who does the majority of talking about the live action with added stats to throw in to keep viewers interested if the game is boring, and you have the seasoned professional at his side, giving his view and opinion on the game or even tactics (like Gary Neville did and Andy Grey) im sure this is the same in other sports in America too. The list is endless for commentator duo's like the footballing ones throughout sports Boxing/Snooker/Cricket/Tennis it's all based around the same sort of style Tastosis are bringing to the GSL every day and there other adventures. One tells you everything that is going on to the upmost indepth knowledge whilst the other is dumbing things down for the lower ended viewers and also throwing in funnies whilst the play is not all that entertaining (take the first 5-6minutes of a quick expo game) just a quick question; Is Artosis really that high level? I honestly dont see it, I know im in no way a GM or even master, but most of the times I dont understand what's so indepth of what artosis is saying, he's pointing out some obvious things and other times he's just wrong. I've never said anything because I feel like the faultry is on my part and not on his, but I wish he'd take time to dumb down why some things are so great because most of the times I see the difference in the play that he points out but I dont understand what's so insanely great about it. | ||
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