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Pseudo-
Profile Joined February 2011
52 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-13 21:26:54
June 13 2011 21:24 GMT
#501
The fact that I got the impression that money is very important to him is maybe a point to work on. Probably because of the constant personal bizz promoting.

But still a great caster obviously.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:01:05
July 10 2012 17:58 GMT
#502
I'm going to resurrect this thread since this is a topic that has not been discussed openly since the time of this thread, if I'm not mistaken. Given the amount of time that has passed with no improvement in tasteless' game knowledge, a resurrection of this thread is warranted.

My personal criticism of Tasteless is not really what's mentioned in the op, but rather his lack of game knowledge. I only state this criticism because I think it would his casts with Artosis greatly. It is painfully obvious in almost every game tasteless casts that he has a fundamental lack of understanding of high level sc2. Just one example out of hundreds would claiming that byun was really outplaying genius in their antiga shipyard game after byun did a minor drop that killed 2 probes and genius had messed up the pathing on his colossi a couple times (but no consequences had come of it). Of course later in the game byun did far outplay genius, but at that point it was too early to tell. And that's not even an egriegous example. I would be shocked if tasteless plays more than a couple games a month, if that. I just have to cringe several times EVERY GAME when he says something that so fundamentally misses the mark.

Now, you might argue that Tasteless is meant to be a play by play caster, that his main draw is his sense of humor, and that he has mass cross-over appeal. But, he and Artosis are undeniably the premier casting duo and they are casting a complex game. Regardless of the role Tastless is meant to fill, he shouldn't be saying so many things that are just plain incorrect. The premier casting duo should have consistently competent casts and they should do their homework. Tasteless does neither and for the sake of making GSL casts even better than they are now, he should improve.
Toastie.NL
Profile Joined July 2012
Netherlands232 Posts
July 10 2012 18:00 GMT
#503
Tasteless is the man!
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CapTanObviOs
Profile Joined September 2011
United States52 Posts
July 10 2012 18:05 GMT
#504
I prefer artosis's casts over tasteless for the primary reason that Artosis makes smart reads that are often true early on in the game. Tasteless is really good at making a game interesting at times when its not; I feel like both traits are equally important to make a game of starcraft more interesting to the viewer however.
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Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:09:21
July 10 2012 18:08 GMT
#505
Tasteless should understand the game better, and therefore have more interesting things to say. The best casting duos are made up of two analytical casters, e.g. Artosis + Wolf. There's no need for a specialized play-by-play/humorous caster, because analytical casters can do humor and play-by-play just as well.



3.) needs to be more PROFESSIONAL
-I'm not even talking about the eating and drinking during matches. i don't think this "relaxed mindset" during casting is so detrimental to the event,,, but..

- Please don't mention "sex" on-air again, or at least not say the word so downright. Esports is still largely unaccepted in society, even in korea (i'm a korean, so i know). If you don't act to the bare minimum on one of esports premier events, how do you expect people to start taking this sport seriously?
**THIS DOES NOT MEAN he should stop fooling around and start casting seriously. the Lax casting is a part of his charm, for the billionth time i've mentioned. Needing more professionalism DOESNT mean they need to stop being hilarious.


That's a complete contradiction. What makes Tasteless (and Artosis) funny is the geeky humor. Geeky humor is not 'professional'. Geeky humor is not mainstream; it will put off anyone who is not a geek. If you want Tastosis to be professional, you're asking them to stop being geeky.
MockHamill
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1798 Posts
July 10 2012 18:11 GMT
#506
I think tasteless and artosis are by far the best caster duo in e-sports. I have no idea if tastless is as good by himself but he complements artosis perfectly.

Wolf and Khaldor has gone from bad, to ok, to good but they are still not as good as the casting archon, imo.
NexUmbra
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Scotland3776 Posts
July 10 2012 18:26 GMT
#507
Disagree with all as. At the start of GSL I always just play Binding of Isaac or something and listen to GSL as a podcast becuase I feel that Tastosis are the only guys that are genuinly good to listen to when you are not really watching the game. If the cast was to get more 'professional' I feel that Tastosis would be a shadow of their former selves. One of the reasons why most people think they are so good is that they are really good friends in real life so if you were to take away their banter then you would degrade not the cast itself but Tastosis :'(

Also people have really got to shut up about trying to make eSports grow really quickly, you can't force something, its just got to happen on its own. Think of singers that go on these horrid reality TV shows only to fade into obscurity a month or so later, if eSports will get big it wil just get big anyways, its not like its going to be some changes from some casters that will make eSports flourish.
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Helvig
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark55 Posts
July 10 2012 18:33 GMT
#508
Please don't start this thread once again >_< - Tasteless are a great caster in ->HIS<- way and there's a TON of people who enjoy watching GSL and MLG just for him and Artosis. I just think It's annoying there's angry nerds on the internet who ALWAYS have to complain about everything and where nothing satisfies them, so they post on threads like these.
Just because YOU don't like it, thousands of others do.

I just feel kinda sad and embrassed for Tasteless when seeing a thread with posts against him calling him "unprofessional" and that he interrupts Artosis at times I mean like come on, really? Can't you enjoy anything at all?

If Tasteless retired from casting GOMTV a few of you angry nerds will cheer and be happy - But the 95% of us wouldn't.

Tasteless if you're reading this don't listen to the few angry nerds who doesn't like you because you're "unprofessional" or whatever, keep doing your thing man cause there's a lot of people who enjoys and has fun watching you and Artosis - Sadly there's just always gonna be those few who has to whine about everything that annoys them, trolls if you like it?

Thx for reading
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[]Phase[]
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium927 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:34:27
July 10 2012 18:33 GMT
#509
I didnt think that sex thing was such a big deal. I was surprised, but I dont feel like there should be any taboo around it tbh.
The only thing thats a little off to me is that next to the analysis-giant Artosis, tasteless looks like a guy who doesnt know alot about the game. They should somehow make tasteless explain some more complicated strategies aswell, so it doesnt look so one-sided.

The other casters have a lot more to improve on, and this constructive critisism for tasteless and artosis isnt even necessary. They clearly stand high above all other casters, and I think its hard to imagine any better unscripted casting than their unscripted casting.
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
July 10 2012 18:33 GMT
#510
... Why the hell is there criticism?

Tasteless may not be as well versed with the game as Artosis, but he has all the other qualities that make the cast entertaining, put any other person there and they have very little chemistry.

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pzea469
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States1520 Posts
July 10 2012 18:36 GMT
#511
They're funny, but the truth is that for esports to be taken seriously, that needs to change. They need to be very technical and serious commentators first, with being funny from time to time(Just sprinkled around). When I watch basketball for example, they make jokes sometimes, but they're really focused on the action and stay focused. And when nothing is going on, they point out stats, talk about the players specifically, their past and possible future.

One of the big problems though, is that the SC2 itself doesn't have that much to talk about a lot of the time. There is a lot of downtime and probably not enough strategy to discuss. There needs to be more constant action, or else it's like commentating baseball.
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MrSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden93 Posts
July 10 2012 18:41 GMT
#512
Tasteless is awesome - no - he's awesomeness personified

+ Show Spoiler +


There is no artosis without tasteless
willoc
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1530 Posts
July 10 2012 18:42 GMT
#513
People will complain about anything. Your doing a great job Tasteless and Artosis!
Be bold and mighty forces will come to your aid!
Ewic
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada121 Posts
July 10 2012 18:42 GMT
#514
I agree with the OP whole-heartedly. One of my best friends also shares this opinion of Tasteless. We think he's getting really stale. It's the same jokes, the same phrases, and over time, a lower understanding of the game (how many times has he said "I don't understand why Terrans keep dropping when Mutalisks are out"?)

I'm glad you posted your opinions on this and hopefully Tasteless notices that not everybody is happy with his casting and can make improvements.
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Arcanefrost
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium1257 Posts
July 10 2012 18:43 GMT
#515
tasteless is awesome imo
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Lunit
Profile Joined July 2010
United States183 Posts
July 10 2012 18:45 GMT
#516
Its been proven many times already that if you have Tastosis come to your event it will draw in more people. People enjoy their casts much more than any other commentators. Both of them should just continue what their doing because their doing a great job.
howLiN
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Portugal1676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-10 18:51:17
July 10 2012 18:45 GMT
#517
On June 12 2011 15:10 Mordiford wrote:
I disagree with all of the above.

I wouldn't recommend changing any of the thing mentioned above, he's doing a great job and I've never noticed him cut off Artosis in any manner that's noticeable and detracts from the cast.

Great job Tasteless, keep up the good work. Don't change a thing.

This is an even less productive thing to say than OP's criticisms.


On June 12 2011 15:26 Mordiford wrote:
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On June 12 2011 15:22 hmunkey wrote:
Disagree with everything completely except maybe the sex thing. I can see GSL as being a family show, so talking about sex and using vulgarities is probably not the best idea. Also, while a stronger diction couldn't hurt, I don't really mind Tasteless being Tasteless -- that's what makes their casting duo so good.


Ugh... I don't want to get into this sex thing, since that's been talked to death in the Casting Language Standards and similar threads but it just comes down to individual views of what's appropriate. I got a laugh out of that comment so I have no problem with it, there's plenty of content that could otherwise be objectionable that inherent to the game, filtering otherwise age appropriate content similar to that seems unnecessary to me.

It's because it comes to individual views of what's appropriate that it's often a good idea to keep the casting in the lowest common denominator in terms of controversy. I don't particulary mind sex jokes on the GSL but I can see why people may think it's a good idea to keep them away from casting.
Wolvmatt.
Profile Joined April 2011
205 Posts
July 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#518
Tasteless, don't adopt any of these changes. You and Artosis are the best casting duo in the business. Why change a successful model?
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
July 10 2012 18:49 GMT
#519
Lol I knew I should have made a new thread about Tastless' game knowledge rather than resurrecting this one. People are just talking about the OP again. The OP is very old and it's outdated, so lets focus on Tastless' game knowledge (or lack thereof) because that's the current concern. Refer to my post above.
mYNDIG
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway179 Posts
July 10 2012 18:51 GMT
#520
I loved tastless at the start of the GSL, and when I stop watching GSL I start loving him again. But when I watch him frequently he starts to get boring, because I know what he will say. So Good, etc etc.

Tasteless and Artosis are great casters, but Tasteless is not changing things up something Artosis is, to some extent anyways.

Tastosis is still the best casting duo in SC2, but I'm going so far and saying that truly doesn't mean much atm.
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