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On July 11 2012 03:49 Doodsmack wrote:
Lol I knew I should have made a new thread about Tastless' game knowledge rather than resurrecting this one. People are just talking about the OP again. The OP is very old and it's outdated, so lets focus on Tastless' game knowledge (or lack thereof) because that's the current concern. Refer to my post above.
Well, whenever you want to make a new point, discussion etc. Make a new thread? People will discuss the OP, people wont look around in the thread to find your opinion and discuss it
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IMO anyone who gets to cast with Artosis does not need any game knowledge. The fact is they gel so well as a casting duo, with very few awkward pauses, that all Tasteless really needs to do is be his entertaining self and he can leave the analysis to Artosis if he wants to.
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tasteless can only cast with artosis, and even then hes quite terrible
as a duo i much prefer bitter and rotterdam
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I've watched you since you began casting tasteless. You're awesome.
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tasteless is the best. nothing more needs to be said.
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Only thing I can say about Tasteless is that he stutters ALOT. Its like his mind just sometimes wanders off and he's having problems finishing a sentence. This actually happens frequently and is actually pretty annoying in the long run.
But hey, I love Tasteless no matter what, and combined with Artosis they are funniest guys out there!
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On July 11 2012 04:03 ItchyLegs wrote:
tasteless is the best. nothing more needs to be said.
Man, such a great argument.
Well I for one care substantially less about the GSL because of Tasteless' casting. I love Wolf, I love Artosis and I like Khaldor.
But what I don't like, is still, to this day, being reminded upon twitter accounts and other stuff because Tasteless never knows what to talk about during downtime.
In the few cases where Artosis is coupled with Wolf or some progamer he begins to really shine. The synergy between him and Tasteless though, well there is none other than the fact that they know each other for so long.
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It's a joke that people are saying Tasteless doesn't have enough game knowledge. Who freaking cares? I can't remember one time where I was watching GSL, and I thought to myself... "Damn, tasteless knows so much about this game!" In fact, I find myself saying that about Artosis.... all of the time. Nick's job isn't to drop mad knowledge bombs on people - it's to entertain them. That means he doesn't need in-depth knowledge about the game, he just has to know enough to know what's going on so he can make it more entertaining for those who don't. I'm not saying a caster should know jack shit about the game, but let's be honest here - They don't need to know everything. They don't even need to be playing as long as they're watching games and reading up on the meta-game. Combine that with the fact that Nick talks to Artosis about all sorts of nerd things, and in those conversations probably learns something he needs for SC2.
Tl;DR - If you care about how much Tasteless knows about SC2 - you probably need a hobby.
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Thank you for this post. I am in agreement with you 100%. If people would just listen to what he actually said, many would realize that he is either stating the obvious, missing something important, or completely wrong in his analysis. I realize he tries to simplify what hes saying and make new comers who have never watched starcraft understand, but this is only because he has no clue what is going on himself. He is, in my opinion, one of the worst casters out there. He sounds like a complete meathead, despite being a "nerd". He does not come across as intelligent whatsoever. I am a huge fan of day9 and surprised that these two are brothers.
edit: after reading the post above who argues that he isnt there for knowledge and that he's there for entertainment, let me point out that he is not entertaining at all, at least in my opinion. His jokes are rarely funny. His attempts at being witty fall flat on their face. Occasionally there is a humorous comment. I don't see why people hop on this guys dick. There is NOTHING special about him.
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Stop being so fucking awesome?
I mean come on lol, Tastosis is the literal definition of perfection.
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I find it interesting that Tasteless signed with "esports managing group" i cant remember what it was called lol. Artosis didnt sign. I have seen Tasteless cast without Artosis only in MLG when they rotated the casting combos. Man he was so lost (granted, his casting partner wasnt the perfect match). I would like to see how he does in an event without Artosis and is there even an event that would want only him.
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I absolutely love how Tastosis work well together. Best casters imo
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On July 11 2012 04:13 hoby2000 wrote:
It's a joke that people are saying Tasteless doesn't have enough game knowledge. Who freaking cares? I can't remember one time where I was watching GSL, and I thought to myself... "Damn, tasteless knows so much about this game!" In fact, I find myself saying that about Artosis.... all of the time. Nick's job isn't to drop mad knowledge bombs on people - it's to entertain them. That means he doesn't need in-depth knowledge about the game, he just has to know enough to know what's going on so he can make it more entertaining for those who don't. I'm not saying a caster should know jack shit about the game, but let's be honest here - They don't need to know everything. They don't even need to be playing as long as they're watching games and reading up on the meta-game. Combine that with the fact that Nick talks to Artosis about all sorts of nerd things, and in those conversations probably learns something he needs for SC2.
Tl;DR - If you care about how much Tasteless knows about SC2 - you probably need a hobby.
That is some high level white knighting. People spend lots of money on the GSL and just because their opinion of one of the main casters differ from yours doesn't mean they need a hobby or is a whiner.
Tasteless seems to try and predict more lately and you really notice how Artosis often has to dodge the "right, Artosis?" because the prediction is plain wrong. Tasteless gets by on being a great personality, but he would be twice as good if he actually cared to look up stats and play the game as much as the other GOM employed english casters. He's more fun than Wolf and Khaldor imo but they trump him in actual game knowledge and knowledge about players and trends.
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I agree with alot of what the op mentions. Actually the only gsl caster I really like is artosis. Don't know what it is, but tasteless just says the same things over and over again, rarely something of "use". I'm not really in to the "nerdy" humor they're playing with neither, but that goes for Artosis aswell I guess.
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I completely disagree. Artosis is knowledgable and Tasteless helps the commentary flow. Could you imagine 2 Artosis', that wouldn't work. Two tastless' also wouldn't work. One of each, Perfect.
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There's some good points in here and I can definitely see why some people might get rubbed the wrong way by Tasteless.
That said, you all suck 
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Why do people think tastless and artosis are such a great duo?
Bitterdam is just as funny as tastosis AND they both play the game at a masters level. Instead of one analytic caster there are two.
Also, day9 brings both humor and analysis to his casting. He is FAR better than either Artosis, or Tastless.
I bring these three people up to demonstrate that in every way these guys are better, yet people still like tastosis? Don't get it....
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On July 11 2012 04:26 meridian2012 wrote:
I completely disagree. Artosis is knowledgable and Tasteless helps the commentary flow. Could you imagine 2 Artosis', that wouldn't work. Two tastless' also wouldn't work. One of each, Perfect.
Artosis and Wolf/Khaldor were, in my opinion, better than Tastosis. More focus on the game, current trends, and playstyles.
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On July 11 2012 04:26 meridian2012 wrote:
I completely disagree. Artosis is knowledgable and Tasteless helps the commentary flow. Could you imagine 2 Artosis', that wouldn't work. Two tastless' also wouldn't work. One of each, Perfect.
I actually really like Artosis and Wolf when they cast together, because they keep the flow going with their excitement about the match-up, the metagame, the players, and the strategies in play or that have the potential to come into play. At no point do they feel the need to say "we're going to have some downtime here guys" or "there's not really much going on at the moment", because there's so much Starcraft for them to gush over in between the big battles. To me that keeps the flow going in a much more interesting way.
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Different people like different things. Tasteless doesn't need to change anything as he is appealing to his directed audience. The reason why wolf+artosis isnt' ideal as those who are "new" to sc2 would have the information go completely over their head. Stop being haters and enjoy the fact we have people who would want to cast this game and have experience. If you want something to complain about, complain about incontrol.
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