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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
June 12 2011 20:47 GMT
#361
Tasteless is the second best caster in the world behind Artosis. Using other sports as a way Starcraft casting should be is a terrible idea. Nobody ever actually listens to other sports commentators because they are so damn boring.
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 12 2011 20:49 GMT
#362
Man Tastlesess solocasting, season 2 with LilSusie then season 3 with SuperDanielMan, I've seen it all, it's AMAZING! Just search 'GSI' IF anything I'd hope he cuts down on smoking, to preserve his voice as commentator of ALL the most epic SC2 (SC3?) games for at least the next decade!
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
June 12 2011 20:54 GMT
#363
On June 13 2011 04:09 Flying_Cake wrote:
99.9% of the people love tastosis. Why are we wasting our time arguing this?


Because this is the internets and we love a good debate, if you can call it that.
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
June 12 2011 20:56 GMT
#364
On June 13 2011 04:38 uSnAmplified wrote:
Tasteless is amazing as is, if anything we need more insight on tasteless ladder games and how he is stealing nerds ladder points.


This.

He really needs to start telling us again on how he steals nerds points on the ladder.

Also I want to hear a lot more on how Artosis plays custom games with this pro gamers friends.

Those jokes never got old
TheNihilist
Profile Joined May 2010
United States178 Posts
June 12 2011 20:58 GMT
#365
On June 12 2011 15:08 pc_room_freak wrote:

**To the people who obviously is being overprotective of our casters, realize that this is NOTHING personal. Throwing out these facts isn't going to hurt anybody.


What exactly makes you think that your opinions on Tasteless' casting qualify as "facts"?
FuTon
Profile Joined April 2011
United States308 Posts
June 12 2011 21:04 GMT
#366
Tasteless is : an average observer, average commentator, not bad caster.
kratos-23
Profile Joined March 2011
303 Posts
June 12 2011 21:04 GMT
#367
he is doing just fine, he is unique man. let him just to his thing. don't chance tastosis!
Kiangani
Profile Joined April 2011
United States122 Posts
June 12 2011 21:04 GMT
#368
I'd hate to sound like a fanboy but I don't think there is anything wrong with the way Tasteless casts. I think the last thing that eSports should be worrying about is people getting butthurt over using the word "sex". This isn't the fucking Victorian Era. On the note of his relaxed demeanor, other casters that I've seen such as Wheat, Husky, Moletrap, and Doa may sound more excited but they aren't actually saying ANYTHING AT ALL. Tasteless does more than just tell me literally everything I see on the screen in a series of nasally shouts. He casts calmly, collectedly, with focus on the things that I should be hearing as a viewer, not just the things I can obviously see for myself. He also does it very humorously, which is a great plus, and if you ask me he also casts quite intelligently with actually very good diction. He uses a lot of words that I never hear commonly used but work great in context. However, he is also able to realize when a simple "good" is in order; nothing is more annoying than listening to someone who thinks they are good at speaking when in reality they are just churning through a rather limited minithesaurus in their head every time they are worried they might - god forbid - repeat a word or phrase. I love his calm style, and the fact that him and Artosis work so well together, despite occasional interruptions which will naturally happen in dual casts, is great for spectating. The Archon isn't perfect, each one has little flaws, but overall they are doing a great job and honestly don't need to change any sort of overt factor in their casting, they'll just continue improving as they continue working. Imo.
"david some do it T>T" - The Emperor, SlayerS BoxeR, MLG Pro Circuit 2011 Anaheim
tosog
Profile Joined March 2011
64 Posts
June 12 2011 21:06 GMT
#369
And for those who says Tasteless has lost his passion for Starcraft. Maybe, probably not. It's just damned hard to look like a Starcraft enthusiast next to Artosis lol.
Aldehyde
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden939 Posts
June 12 2011 21:57 GMT
#370
Mentioning sex is definitely really bad...

Grow up.
hoby2000
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States918 Posts
June 12 2011 21:59 GMT
#371
On June 13 2011 05:56 papaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 13 2011 04:38 uSnAmplified wrote:
Tasteless is amazing as is, if anything we need more insight on tasteless ladder games and how he is stealing nerds ladder points.


This.

He really needs to start telling us again on how he steals nerds points on the ladder.

Also I want to hear a lot more on how Artosis plays custom games with this pro gamers friends.

Those jokes never got old


Easily my favorite part. One of my friends and myself make ladder point jokes sometimes. They're like chuck norris jokes, but better!
A lesson without pain is meaningless for nothing can be gained without giving something in return.
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 23:23:03
June 12 2011 22:16 GMT
#372
Tasteless is a fun guy but his SC2 commentary is weak and a major weak point to me. It's like he pigeon hole'd himself to be really bare bones and basic for the "nubs" and often sounds like a broken record. If his SC2 knowledge was as good as others like Artosis, Day9, Gretorp, Incontrol etc than their casts will be a lot more interesting, to an already dynamic duo. I would say the Archon would be perfect! So instead of always resorting to recycled stale jokes & often really generalized statements about the game like "He is so good", "That game was so good", "He plays a lot different than other players" to kill dead air time, he can actually go in-depth with what he means and maybe even argue with Artosis about the game every once in awhile. Maybe then he wouldn't stutter "uh" a lot when trying to analyze something within the game.

The excessive premature gg's also have to go. It's annoying and only adds negativity to the cast, especially when the player makes a comeback. Other than that, everything else is great. His positives definitely makes up for his weaknesses though, and mostly because Artosis is there. They really do make a good pairing but there is some room for improvement.
Endymion
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States3701 Posts
June 12 2011 22:21 GMT
#373
I love Tasteless, I'm not watching his commentary so that I can become a better player, I'll watch replays for that.. I watch to be entertained, and he's fucking hilarious, I don't care what the naysayers think. He's a genius, and he plays off of Artosis perfectly. He is a true baller of the TL community, and if you think you have some major criticism then go become a caster and take his job. Here's a pro tip, you won't be able to, and neither will anyone else, because Tasteless is irreplaceable.
Have you considered the MMO-Champion forum? You are just as irrational and delusional with the right portion of nostalgic populism. By the way: The old Brood War was absolutely unplayable
Hollis
Profile Joined January 2011
United States505 Posts
June 12 2011 22:22 GMT
#374
All criticism for Tasteless, Artosis, Day9, and several others depending on the day, are sucked up into the black hole of awesome that surrounds them. And that's all I have to say about that.
Hokay
Profile Joined May 2007
United States738 Posts
June 12 2011 22:30 GMT
#375
On June 13 2011 07:21 Endymion wrote:
I love Tasteless, I'm not watching his commentary so that I can become a better player, I'll watch replays for that.. I watch to be entertained, and he's fucking hilarious, I don't care what the naysayers think. He's a genius, and he plays off of Artosis perfectly. He is a true baller of the TL community, and if you think you have some major criticism then go become a caster and take his job. Here's a pro tip, you won't be able to, and neither will anyone else, because Tasteless is irreplaceable.


Don't act like a caster can't improve some aspects of his casting without still being a funny guy, off-topic, or entertaining. No one is saying for him to change to a MrBitter analytical commentator.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
June 12 2011 22:33 GMT
#376
On June 13 2011 06:04 FuTon wrote:
Tasteless is : an average observer, average commentator, not bad caster.


At least provide reasoning for your opinion, because I don't think most people agree with that.
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Felix_mk
Profile Joined October 2010
85 Posts
June 12 2011 22:34 GMT
#377
I hope no one makes tastosis aware of this crappy threat, they shouldn't change at all.
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
June 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#378
On June 13 2011 07:16 Hokay wrote:
Tasteless is a fun guy but his SC2 commentary is weak and a major weak point to me. It's like he pigeon hole'd himself to be really bare bones and basic for the "nubs" and often sounds like a broken record. If his SC2 knowledge was as good as others like Artosis, Day9, Gretorp, Incontrol etc than their casts will be a lot more interesting, to an already dynamic duo. I would say the Archon would be perfect! So instead of always resorting to recycled stale jokes & often really generalized statements about the game like "He is so good", "That game was so good", "He plays a lot different than other players" to kill dead air time, he can actually go in-depth with what he means and maybe even argue with Artosis about the game every once in awhile. Maybe he wouldn't stutter "uh" a million times when trying to explain something as well.

The excessive premature gg's also have to go. It's annoying and only adds negativity to the cast, especially when the player makes a comeback.


Totally agree with everything said here. Sometimes I wonder if he's even really watching the game or if he's too worried about thinking of something witty to say. For example, the last time I wached GSL live a few days ago during the Alicia vs Polt match, a probe was harassing the scv building the first barracks. Polt did a good job switching off building scvs so as to not lose ANY scvs to the probe. But all I could hear in the background was Tasteless commenting on how the probe had two or three kills and was really messing Polt up...wtf? In reality he did hardly any damage at all. The knee to the groin was the third or fourth time Tasteless mentioned how many kills the probe had, the observer clicked on the probe to see it had a whopping zero kills.

I've always been a huge fan of Tastetosis but that last GSL cast I saw/heard just really irked me... Thankfully Artosis has been consistently awesome imo.
Spitfire
Profile Joined September 2009
South Africa442 Posts
June 12 2011 22:51 GMT
#379
Inexperienced? He's been casting StarCraft since before most people gave a crap about StarCraft.

If you watch old BW games commentated by Tastosis its very different. They changed their style for the GSL to be more of a balanced casting duo, with one providing the analysis and the other focusing more on just being entertaining. It works perfectly.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
June 12 2011 23:00 GMT
#380
I disagree completely with everything that the OP said. E-sports has a very different culture and you can't try to change it to be just like other sports or you will lose your primary audience - the gamers themselves. This professionalism argument is weak at best and many of the big personalities in the scene have had heated discussions over it recently.

On Tasteless as a caster, I think he's a perfectly good caster. While not as good as Day9, DJWheat, Artosis, or MrBitter, he's definitely better than Gretorp/InControl and the other random people that cast various tournaments. The one sad thing to note is that being a BW fan for so long, I watched him cast BW for quite a while, and it's pretty noticeable that he 1) doesn't have the knowledge of SC2 that he did of BW and 2) he doesn't quite have the passion for SC2 that he did for BW.
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