EPTSome constructive criticism for tasteless? - Page 16
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MK4512
Canada938 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
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Kollapse
United States125 Posts
On June 13 2011 00:17 Avean wrote: Very little knowledge ? What the hell ? Tasteless is a former pro gamer, brother of day9. Without guys like that a Starcraft 2 community which we have today would simply NOT exist. He has vast Brood War knowledge and I love both him and Day9. No question he's done great things for the community. But can you deny he has very little SC2 knowledge? He says "good decision," "bad decision," as well as various repeats of things Artosis had just said or has said in the past. | ||
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flankstaek
United States120 Posts
Personally I think they could cut back on a few dirty jokes and things like that, but they should keep the playful relaxed tone and the friendliness. | ||
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pc_room_freak
United States26 Posts
On June 12 2011 22:39 Aberu wrote: You cast about 5 hours of content a week and sound fresh and different all the time. kthx. That's the point of a good castor-_-. It's frustrating because veryfew understand the bw castors, but they've been casting for a good 10 years and even they don't sound repetitive. If you can't do that, you're just not good enough with language. Note that i've never complained about artosis, cuz he is NOT repetitive as a broken record. In fact, repetitive is good in instances, like "SO MANY BANELINGS", cuz that's kinda artosis' trademark thing, and everyone (including me) love it. But overusing the same diction over and over is like a bad essay that uses the same word a 100 times. | ||
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TeWy
France714 Posts
Sure they are not a bad team, but they are definitely not as good as some people pretend them to be. Their jokes are getting so repetitive that it's frankly becoming embarassing... the tasteless secret highway, the casting archon, the "so many banelings" and so on... Sure it's hard to comment every single day and have fresh jokes all the time, but no one is asking them to try to be funny all the time. And I also do not like when they are trying to act cool by telling what they like to eat, like in a Tarantino's movie ... Although contrary to the OP, I don't believe that the show should aim at more mature people... I've no statistics but to me t's crystal clear that 95% of those interested in SC2 professional play are 14-26 years old, so you have to attract that audience rather than trying to increase the other 5%... | ||
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Kira__
Sweden2672 Posts
On June 13 2011 00:37 TeWy wrote: I think the major reason why Artosis and Tasteless are liked that much is because of the status they acquired with BW. Doesn't make much sense as the scene grew tenfold from broodwar, meaning most of the viewers didn't watch them in a previous game. I think the reason they're so popular is because they got a laid back and funny yet analytical approach to the game, something very few manage to combine well. | ||
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Mordiford
4448 Posts
On June 13 2011 00:37 pc_room_freak wrote: That's the point of a good castor-_-. It's frustrating because veryfew understand the bw castors, but they've been casting for a good 10 years and even they don't sound repetitive. If you can't do that, you're just not good enough with language. Note that i've never complained about artosis, cuz he is NOT repetitive as a broken record. In fact, repetitive is good in instances, like "SO MANY BANELINGS", cuz that's kinda artosis' trademark thing, and everyone (including me) love it. But overusing the same diction over and over is like a bad essay that uses the same word a 100 times. Every caster has some measure of repetitiveness, I agree, I've noticed it with Tasteless as of late but that's because he casts so fucking much. As for everything else including the sex thing, it's been touched on already, this isn't Spongebob Squarepants, mentions of "sex" and other suggestive content are perfectly acceptable and age appropriation for the content of the foreign cast. | ||
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pc_room_freak
United States26 Posts
On June 13 2011 00:37 TeWy wrote: I think the major reason why Artosis and Tasteless are liked that much is because of the status they acquired with BW. Sure they are not a bad team, but they are definitely not as good as some people pretend them to be. Their jokes are getting so repetitive that it's frankly becoming embarassing... the tasteless secret highway, the casting archon, the "so many banelings" and so on... And I also do not like when they are trying to act cool by telling what they like to eat, like in a Tarantino's movie ... Although contrary to the OP, I don't believe that the show should aim at more mature people... I've no statistics but to me t's crystal clear that 95% of those interested in SC2 professional play are 14-26 years old, so you have to attract that audience rather than trying to increase the other 5%... Thanks, i appreciate it. But i do like tastosis' jokes. Im one of the few who only tuned into the super tournament when tastosis was there... Except wolf is pretty good too. I just can't stand moletrap, to the point where i'm not watching the nestea vs bomber match, just cuz i can't listen to him. | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
my only advice for tasteless is keep being the biggest super nerd baler out there. | ||
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ProxyKnoxy
United Kingdom2576 Posts
On June 13 2011 00:50 ComaDose wrote: inexperienced? as a caster?!?!?!?! gtfo. my only advice for tasteless is keep being the biggest super nerd baler out there. Thank you for focusing on a sentence of the op instead of commenting on the whole message it was conveying. The thought put into some posts never cease to amaze... Overall however I just think the only thing holding Tastosis back is Tasteless' game knowledge. It's clear he doesn't play much, but then again, without Tasteless what is Tastosis? Artosis, that's what it is... (thought I had something going there but  ) | ||
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MandoRelease
France374 Posts
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Regretful
Sweden91 Posts
"Sex" is not a bad word and should not be frowned upon. Its not like he repeatedly sits there and pulls dirty jokes. Keep Tasteless tasteless! | ||
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ComaDose
Canada10357 Posts
I know I couldn't do better as a caster. Also yeah i picked on the word inexperienced cause it makes no sense... the most experienced English caster? | ||
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Haighstrom
United Kingdom209 Posts
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ETisME
12763 Posts
especially when they are together | ||
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pc_room_freak
United States26 Posts
On June 13 2011 01:02 ProxyKnoxy wrote: Thank you for focusing on a sentence of the op instead of commenting on the whole message it was conveying. The thought put into some posts never cease to amaze... Overall however I just think the only thing holding Tastosis back is Tasteless' game knowledge. It's clear he doesn't play much, but then again, without Tasteless what is Tastosis? Artosis, that's what it is... (thought I had something going there but )As a critic of tastless, i think that's ok. I actually think he needs to embrace his role more, which is being the caster. Artosis is the encyclopedia, he should be fine by himself. I dunno about you guys, but lately tasteless has been TRYING to sound more knowledgable, and trying to talk about more of the advanced stuff. I dunno why he would feel in such a way, cuz i think it's better for him to embrace the role of being the color commentator. On June 13 2011 01:05 MandoRelease wrote: Why create this kind of topic for tasteless and not for artosis ? I mean Artosis is the one who annoys me Cuz artosis is awesome. Period. He's got his flaws of course, but if i complain about them i would feel like im nitpicking. He has no real flaws that bugs me, and that's the point of this thread. If not broken, it doesn't need fixing. But some of the stuff tasteless does is a bit noticable. | ||
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mango_destroyer
Canada3914 Posts
Really though I am sick of people mentioning the whole "for ESPORTS!" thing. Now that is played out too much and sounds like a broken record. A big reason why I watch is because of how he and Artosis casts right now. Ever thought it might hurt "esports" if they were boring ass casters? | ||
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EnOmy
Australia183 Posts
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rysecake
United States2632 Posts
On June 13 2011 01:12 pc_room_freak wrote: Cuz artosis is awesome. Period. He's got his flaws of course, but if i complain about them i would feel like im nitpicking. He has no real flaws that bugs me, and that's the point of this thread. If not broken, it doesn't need fixing. But some of the stuff tasteless does is a bit noticable. If you only have artosis, you'll have 1 boring show. You cannot have 2 people spewing knowledge at you. The reason tastosis works so well is because they have chemistry. One spews knowledge while the other makes it enjoyable. I'd fall asleep if I was listening to 2 people analyzing the game. Pro sc2 is entertainment, not a college lecture. They both have flaws when they're solo. When they're together they're great. Fwiw, Tasteless is actually the better half of the archon for me. Artosis gives me knowledge, tasteless gives me a good time (no homo). I'm watching sc2 to have a good time and to learn. | ||
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