EPTAlicia is the last protoss hope in the super tournament, imho.
Protoss at the GSL - Page 2
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Alicia is the last protoss hope in the super tournament, imho. | ||
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Parodoxx
United States549 Posts
There are 2 things I could say about it, 1) passive macro games by protoss were being lost to dumb mistakes and risky pushes 2) all other games were lots out right to a timing attack made by protoss or taken by protoss. Protoss are indeed having some issues vs zerg with taking an expansion safely but I would not swap yet. When Roche's had range increase from 3 to 4 I wanted to swap b/c I could not forge expand but in time we found that it was still an option. be patient and enjoy the GSL games im sure at least 1 protoss will make it to round of 4. | ||
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Duoma
United States396 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:57 Joseph123 wrote: well protoss has never been doing well in the GSL only MC has did so.. This is generally pretty true. Outside of MC, Alicia, and some flashes of brilliance from San, the korean scene does not have many consistent or interesting protoss players. Ace and Squirtle have failed to make a splash in the korean scene thus far, Anypro Tester and SangHo have all been inconsistent in performance and rarely bring anything interesting to the table. I think it's pretty safe to say there has been no Protoss "hero" akin to MVP or Nestea. Sure, MC is likely the most successful player(winning-wise) to come out of Korea, but he hasn't revolutionized the race so much as just doing everything better. Tl;dr: OP, inconsistent protoss performance is business as usual in the GSL. | ||
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Cthun
Israel71 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:59 ZAiNs wrote: It's obvious that threads like this just promote people whining about how underpowered their race is (I play Protoss FWIW). Besides, why would you want to play Zerg because Protoss are doing badly in one tournament? What about the StarsWar where the final 4 players are all Protoss, does that make you want to play Protoss again? I'm not saying protoss are underpowered, but if most pros have such a hard time playing it then what chance do I have to get good at it :/ Maybe it's a race reserved for very few special ppl like HuK and some others that have quad core brains ^^ Tl;dr: OP, inconsistent protoss performance is business as usual in the GSL. Lol funny thing, your post was actually longer.. (but I did read it (; dw) | ||
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laharl23
United States582 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:00 Noocta wrote: Well, don't tell me protoss don"'t have the tools to win. It's just, korean don't have a lot of good protoss in my opinion. I'm just saying that whenever protoss is a slump, everyone just says the players are bad and how they are getting unlucky. But the moment zerg players are in a slump you have 20 threads on how the game is imbalanced. Just doesn't make much sense to me. | ||
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IreScath
Canada521 Posts
Terran getting owned in a tour.... oh lolol ya right Toss getting owned in a tourny = bad players. halarious. Every post in this thread about balance as well as every post sayign "well they just played bad" should have a signature with the race YOU play.. I wonder if we'll see a correllation????? | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
Instead of using our race as an excuse, we must use it as motivation. Even though zerg and terran are winning most of the matches, we still believe in our hearts that protoss is the strongest race. And it is up to us to show the world. | ||
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KevinIX
United States2472 Posts
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kagemucha
United States326 Posts
And it's okay, MC will roll over everyone at MLG columbus, restoring faith in the protoss race. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
I just wonder if this will last as long as the P dominance lasted... | ||
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Rasky
United States406 Posts
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Ovreel
United States206 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:05 laharl23 wrote: I'm just saying that whenever protoss is a slump, everyone just says the players are bad and how they are getting unlucky. But the moment zerg players are in a slump you have 20 threads on how the game is imbalanced. Just doesn't make much sense to me. Can we call this "Idra syndrome" ? | ||
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hyperdemented
Austria372 Posts
In comparison, protoss players have been getting much better results in foreign tournaments, also the chinese seem quite strong (Starswar Ro4 beeing 4 protoss) | ||
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Slayth
United States325 Posts
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ManaO
Italy185 Posts
Protoss does a 6gate push or similar stuff? Just kill his sentries, then he's dead etc You just need to understand the weaknesses | ||
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ScythedBlade
308 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:01 ErikZerg wrote: Protoss is still the best race just bad players It's been proven that Protoss is the worst race. If you use perfect micro AI (some guy who actually programmed it), Protoss finishes dead last. The real fact is that more QQ players play zerg. The only thing preventing Protoss players right now from doing extremely bad is that players have not reached anywhere near the skill ceiling, but Protoss has been mostly figured out. (Essentially because the possibility branching tree for Protoss is always less deep than the other two races.) | ||
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qwazar
Australia45 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:09 kagemucha wrote: Has everyone forgot about Inca? GSL May finalist? I think he's up there with MC/Alicia as the Top 3. And it's okay, MC will roll over everyone at MLG columbus, restoring faith in the protoss race. Inca seems to be a one trick pony having excellent results in the vP matchup, mixed in vT, and terror in the vZ. He needs to chuck an MVP (so to speak) and become a more well rounded played (even if that means sacrificing some practice against other protoss players) to improve his game. Definitely not 'Top 3'. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:10 Rasky wrote: Zerg is now the OP race if you ask me. Recently zergs have been doing very well protoss not so much. Zerg is not OP, and never has or will be. I feel like there just aren't many great korean protoss besides MC and Alicia. Zerg has Nestea, July, Losira, and some great up-and-comers like DRG and Min. And there are just a dickload of terran players, all with great potential (slayers, anyone?) that it makes the rest of the toss seem comparatively lack-luster. | ||
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
Oh and btw, its just stupid argument that protoss players are generally worse than for example terran players. Maybe the reason is like you cant use skill mechanics such as good multitasking when playing protoss. | ||
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Ovreel
United States206 Posts
On June 04 2011 03:12 Slayth wrote: Because people are finally learning when protoss is vulnerable. If you hit them in that minute or two, they are pretty much dead, but if you let them macro it can get hard to play against them. I'm not sure that's the problem. At least against zerg, it seems that zergs have figured out that if the protoss fast expands, the zerg is pretty safe from anything for a long long time, so they're able to expand and drone like crazy. Eventually their economy is so big that they get a massive influx of supply that protoss hasn't been able to keep up with. That's what seems to be happening when I watch the pros. | ||
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