EPTMC, July to MLG Columbus - Page 29
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 02 2011 21:58 YeYo wrote: yeah americans arnt winnning MLG this year Tbf they weren't winning before MC decided to come, players like Select, Naniwa, MMA, July, Losira are just too strong. I think most people would say only Idra has a chance and maybe Kiwikaki. | ||
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vijeze
Netherlands719 Posts
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pHelix Equilibria
United States1134 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:01 Blasphemi wrote: Tbf they weren't winning before MC decided to come, players like Select, Naniwa, MMA, July, Losira are just too strong. I think most people would say only Idra has a chance and maybe Kiwikaki. SeleCT is considered American. | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:00 MrCon wrote: Pretty bold statement. I would say Idra is up there with zenio, Min, perhaps Losira. Well, "isn't much worse" is a little misleading. I guess you're right, he's not "much worse", but at the same time he's far from having nestea's skill. The problem is that now idra train with not very good players (relatively of course), so it's impossible to judge his real skill. I'd like to see him against every MLG koreans to be able to judge. At least in ZvP Idra is far behind the top Koreans. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating. While he probably isn't better, saying he's "Much worse" is definitely not true. | ||
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flodeskum
Iceland1267 Posts
On June 02 2011 14:56 ImHuko wrote: If Idra has to face MC first round that will be stupid. One of his hardest opponents up first and suddenly, oh its not Bomber anymore, oh and its a Protoss, have fun for the entire tournament Idra. He'll most likely have been practicing his zvt pretty heavily for his games vs select and bomber. Then, two days before he plays, "sorry you're going to play the hardest pvz possible". Well, at least he has a fairly good chance of beating everyone else in the group. | ||
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DonaldLee
586 Posts
On June 02 2011 21:42 nam nam wrote: I think people are overestimating the amount practise pros put in for these kind of short tournaments. I mean specific opponents and matchups. It depends on the pro, but I don't think they are, especially depending on the group. Most of the players when asked about their groups talked about how they planned on practicing specific matchups because their groups had three of a certain race, or how one player being the only one of his race in a group has a slight advantage because he has one less matchup to practice than the rest of his pool. Now is it anything to get all worked up about? Not even a little bit. As an overall player, no question, it isn't even close. Purely ZvT, I can see why you might say Idra isn't "much" worse than Nestea. Not that the logic of "Nestea beat Bomber, then so could Idra" is even applicable because they're completely different players. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
He's not American. He was born in Korea, spent most of his life in Korea, I'm guessing owns a Korean and not American Passport. He's no more Korean than TLO is Swedish or Jinro is Korean, where you live does not define your nationality. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote: Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating. While he probably isn't better, saying he's "Much worse" is definitely not true. Have you seen Nestea play recently? The gap now is bigger than it's ever been. | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:06 Blasphemi wrote: He's not American. He was born in Korea, spent most of his life in Korea, I'm guessing owns a Korean and not American Passport. He's no more Korean than TLO is Swedish or Jinro is Korean, where you live does not define your nationality. Wasn't SeleCt one of the NA representant at Blizzcon still ? :x | ||
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RHMVNovus
United States738 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote: Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating. I'm very hesitant to judge IdrA over the last 3 months. Who has he played? I mean, he be rollin face on the ladder. I've watched his stream, hell, I have a mobile update for his twitter so I can know when he's streaming. But the NA ladder is notoriously blah (yes, I'm in silver on an awful ladder, shut up :V). Love the Proxy Gracktory, but I don't think we can actually judge his relative skill right now. About 36 hours from now, we can start doing that. | ||
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Blasphemi
United Kingdom980 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:07 Noocta wrote: Wasn't SeleCt one of the NA representant at Blizzcon still ? :x Idra was one of the 'Koreans' at IEM Cologne as well I think. Doesn't mean much. | ||
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Morgue
United States3 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:03 Jyvblamo wrote: At least in ZvP Idra is far behind the top Koreans. Yep. I would have loved to see him VS bomber, my personal main event of the weekend  Idra vT is reputed strong, wanted to see this game so bad grrrr. | ||
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sporei
Australia24 Posts
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xtfftc
United Kingdom2343 Posts
Still, better MC than nothing and I'm pretty stoked for July. | ||
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KimJongChill
United States6429 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:06 Blasphemi wrote: He's not American. He was born in Korea, spent most of his life in Korea, I'm guessing owns a Korean and not American Passport. He's no more Korean than TLO is Swedish or Jinro is Korean, where you live does not define your nationality. What? Don't you mean he's no more American? | ||
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Heavenly
2172 Posts
Time for MC to trololo America. | ||
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FuRong
New Zealand3089 Posts
On June 02 2011 22:06 Blasphemi wrote: He's not American. He was born in Korea, spent most of his life in Korea, I'm guessing owns a Korean and not American Passport. He's no more Korean than TLO is Swedish or Jinro is Korean, where you live does not define your nationality. He's definitely American, otherwise he would be in the Korean army right now. He wouldn't be allowed to represent NA in Blizzcon if he didn't have citizenship =/ | ||
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