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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
June 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#581
Ehh as overrated as I think MC is, I think his timings will be too good for MLG this time. No one has been practicing for him lmao, he may just stomp.
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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 02 2011 13:23 GMT
#582
On June 02 2011 22:09 RHMVNovus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:53 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:52 Zeon0 wrote:
I'd love a statement from IdrA, I'm pretty sure MC is a much harder opponent for him (or at least in his opinion) than Bomber (ZvT best MU, ZvP worst). Also Nestea beat Bomber very convincingly, and I really dont think IdrA is much worse than Nestea


Yes he is.

Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating.


I'm very hesitant to judge IdrA over the last 3 months. Who has he played?

I mean, he be rollin face on the ladder. I've watched his stream, hell, I have a mobile update for his twitter so I can know when he's streaming. But the NA ladder is notoriously blah (yes, I'm in silver on an awful ladder, shut up :V).

Love the Proxy Gracktory, but I don't think we can actually judge his relative skill right now. About 36 hours from now, we can start doing that.


True, but watching him play, he seems to have really branched out into doing a lot of different things, and has implemented a lot of cheesy timings and all-ins that keep his opponents guessing at least. He might not be quite Korean quality, but comparing his game now to his 2010/early 2011 form is a night and day difference.
ffadicted
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3545 Posts
June 02 2011 13:24 GMT
#583
On June 02 2011 22:06 Blasphemi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:53 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:52 Zeon0 wrote:
I'd love a statement from IdrA, I'm pretty sure MC is a much harder opponent for him (or at least in his opinion) than Bomber (ZvT best MU, ZvP worst). Also Nestea beat Bomber very convincingly, and I really dont think IdrA is much worse than Nestea


Yes he is.

Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating.

While he probably isn't better, saying he's "Much worse" is definitely not true.


Have you seen Nestea play recently? The gap now is bigger than it's ever been.


Ya pretty much, I don't even think Idra would do well in Code A anymore, and seeing him get completely outplayed in every possible way in two long macro games (one of which Zenio got off to an awful start) did nothing to change my opinion on that.

Idra is just an average player that refuses to change his strategies and they have become outdated and stale nowadays
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TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
June 02 2011 13:27 GMT
#584
Wow, sucks for the people who had prepared for vT in his group who are now going to find themself facing one of the best 'toss in the world.
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 02 2011 13:28 GMT
#585
On June 02 2011 22:22 FuRong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 22:06 Blasphemi wrote:
He's not American. He was born in Korea, spent most of his life in Korea, I'm guessing owns a Korean and not American Passport. He's no more Korean than TLO is Swedish or Jinro is Korean, where you live does not define your nationality.


He's definitely American, otherwise he would be in the Korean army right now. He wouldn't be allowed to represent NA in Blizzcon if he didn't have citizenship =/


Idra represented Korea at IEM World Championships. I don't think Blizzard are checking passports at the door. Regardless, he moved to the US as an adult to study I think, so he's still clearly Korean.

If I moved to France and occasionally people asked me to represent France at a Computer Game I would, but I'd still be English.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44971 Posts
June 02 2011 13:29 GMT
#586
Holy shit, July and MC are going to be there!?!? This is going to be amazing! ♥
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 02 2011 13:29 GMT
#587
On June 02 2011 22:23 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 22:09 RHMVNovus wrote:
On June 02 2011 22:03 Sm3agol wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:53 Blasphemi wrote:
On June 02 2011 21:52 Zeon0 wrote:
I'd love a statement from IdrA, I'm pretty sure MC is a much harder opponent for him (or at least in his opinion) than Bomber (ZvT best MU, ZvP worst). Also Nestea beat Bomber very convincingly, and I really dont think IdrA is much worse than Nestea


Yes he is.

Eh. Maybe 3 months ago. Watching Idra, it really seems like he's vastly improved himself over the last few months, while many of the korean zergs are kind of stagnating.


I'm very hesitant to judge IdrA over the last 3 months. Who has he played?

I mean, he be rollin face on the ladder. I've watched his stream, hell, I have a mobile update for his twitter so I can know when he's streaming. But the NA ladder is notoriously blah (yes, I'm in silver on an awful ladder, shut up :V).

Love the Proxy Gracktory, but I don't think we can actually judge his relative skill right now. About 36 hours from now, we can start doing that.


True, but watching him play, he seems to have really branched out into doing a lot of different things, and has implemented a lot of cheesy timings and all-ins that keep his opponents guessing at least. He might not be quite Korean quality, but comparing his game now to his 2010/early 2011 form is a night and day difference.


Idra is Korean quality, he's just not Nestea quality.
Termit
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden3466 Posts
June 02 2011 13:29 GMT
#588
looooool sick haha
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Zombie_Velociraptor
Profile Joined May 2011
274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 13:31:25
June 02 2011 13:30 GMT
#589
I don't get the excitement over up and comers in the SC2 scene. Fresh players are great and all, but it's pretty funny seeing the heaps of "X is overrated!" "Y is in a slump!" "Z was never good!" claims as soon as MVP, MC, etc lose a set, while players like MMA or Bomber (don't get me wrong, I like both of them myself) are suddenly totally the new best thing after getting a couple wins in GSTL or whatever. This is especially true in MC's case - he's won more major events than any other player is even close to getting to date, yet if he doesn't win this MLG (which is, statistically, very likely), there will be armies of haters claiming he's "done for" and was never good, while if Bomber was in the place he was supposed to be in, and got knocked out right away, all we'd see would be "oh well he'll do better next time BOMBER BEST". I just don't get it - nobody said Jaedong is terrible after he dropped a set to ZerO.
StarCraft64
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States354 Posts
June 02 2011 13:31 GMT
#590
I'd love to see Nani vs MC... the two best PvP players in the world in the most lag-friendly environment that currently exists. Keepin my fingers crossed.
Elaborate euphemisms may conceal your intent to kill, but behind any use of power over another the ultimate assumption remains: "I feed on your energy."
TooN
Profile Joined February 2011
1046 Posts
June 02 2011 13:31 GMT
#591
On June 02 2011 21:40 JustPassingBy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 21:30 sambo400 wrote:
Does anyone else think its unfair to put him in pools the day before the event? Now Tyler has to play a PvP that he probably hasn't prepared for.


And the same does not apply to MC?


Poor tyler...... now he is going to do bad for the first time in a while..........
Deserex
Profile Joined November 2010
United States317 Posts
June 02 2011 13:31 GMT
#592
The potential of Naniwa vs MC or a Thorzain vs. MC rematch excites me to no end.
"If you can chill, chill." - Liquid'Nony
Blasphemi
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom980 Posts
June 02 2011 13:32 GMT
#593
On June 02 2011 22:31 StarCraft64 wrote:
I'd love to see Nani vs MC... the two best PvP players in the world in the most lag-friendly environment that currently exists. Keepin my fingers crossed.


Inca is better than both at PvP.
StOrmScAr
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy5 Posts
June 02 2011 13:32 GMT
#594
Time for some toss QQ from idra!

On a more serious note, he will most likely ragequit vs MC.
I like trains.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
June 02 2011 13:32 GMT
#595
Wow this is pretty huge. MLG is going to be legit.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
June 02 2011 13:34 GMT
#596
YEAH! Go July!!
Seeps
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada44 Posts
June 02 2011 13:36 GMT
#597
MC subbed for Bomber...pick your poison!
Heavenly
Profile Joined January 2011
2172 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 13:42:20
June 02 2011 13:37 GMT
#598
On June 02 2011 22:30 Zombie_Velociraptor wrote:
I don't get the excitement over up and comers in the SC2 scene. Fresh players are great and all, but it's pretty funny seeing the heaps of "X is overrated!" "Y is in a slump!" "Z was never good!" claims as soon as MVP, MC, etc lose a set, while players like MMA or Bomber (don't get me wrong, I like both of them myself) are suddenly totally the new best thing after getting a couple wins in GSTL or whatever. This is especially true in MC's case - he's won more major events than any other player is even close to getting to date, yet if he doesn't win this MLG (which is, statistically, very likely), there will be armies of haters claiming he's "done for" and was never good, while if Bomber was in the place he was supposed to be in, and got knocked out right away, all we'd see would be "oh well he'll do better next time BOMBER BEST". I just don't get it - nobody said Jaedong is terrible after he dropped a set to ZerO.


Lose 2 games because you fast expanded versus an aggressive terran.
Lose 2 games in PvP
Get a 3-kill versus Ace, Bomber, July in the GSTL
Win Copenhagen
Win Dreamhack
Get to round of 4 Stars War tournament so far as the only non-Chinese player

=

IRREVERSIBLE SLUMP, HE IS OLD NEWS

don't forget that HUGE ROFLSTOMP ONE-SIDED 3-2 victory of Thorzain v MC while MC was participating in three different tournaments almost simultaneously and all Thorzain did was practice specifically against MC,two wins coming from the same 2-2 timing push and the last game coming from a strategy that was immediately nerfed afterwards.
"thx for all my fans i'm many lost but cheer for me .. i lost but so happy my power is fans i will good play this is promise my fans" - oGsMC
Quintum_
Profile Joined May 2011
United States669 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 13:40:23
June 02 2011 13:39 GMT
#599
SeleCT is not a US citizen, i am 99% sure he has a student visa. I remember he tried to enter some tournament that required US citizenship and he got denied. I think it was a couple weeks ago
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Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
June 02 2011 13:40 GMT
#600
Thorzain vs MC rematch please!
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
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