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TeamLiquid Heart of the Swarm Preview - Page 19

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Seikhor
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada116 Posts
May 31 2011 11:27 GMT
#361
Nice write up. I'm wondering if competitive play with transfer to HS for beta or will it wait for release to be more stable and balanced?
Deleuze
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom2102 Posts
May 31 2011 11:27 GMT
#362
On May 31 2011 20:26 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
Roach

Chitinous Plating - +1 armor.
Bile Ducts – +2 damage.
Organic Carapace – Health regeneration increased by 2

Evolution:

Prowler – Enables burrow movement.
Leech – Every unit killed gains the leech 10 HP (up to a maximum of 60). Also, Health regeneration increased.

I'm glad they've finally come up with some new ideas to make the roach more interesting, it was starting to feel like a stale/1-dimensional unit. I can't wait to get try out the new +armor, +damage, +regen, +burrowed move, singleplayer-only roach upgrades in HotS!



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eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 31 2011 11:28 GMT
#363
On May 31 2011 20:23 Deleuze wrote:
The marketplace too is a little worrying.

I do wonder how much money Blizz makes from the game....

WoW is all about generating ongoing income, and is having new subscription upgrades etc to stimulate income from it.

If this marketplace is where Blizz really sees the money coming in from SC2 (from end users at least) assuming they take a cut from the custom maps they sell then this could present serious implications about where their interests lie: 'hardcore' (read: intellegent, passionate) gamers or casual gamers running around with a chefs hat trying to fry zerglings....

I think the Marketplace is more aimed at allowing mapmakers and mod-makers to make money, not just Blizzard themselves. Mapmakers may have more incentive to make top quality maps once they have an opportunity to profit from from their own work, similar to how iPhone apps or some Source mods work.

I think Valve also adopted a similar philosophy with their hat store in TF2 where some of the revenue goes to the people who helped design the items and hats that are sold in the store.

Also, I think I read in an old interview that Blizzard's standards for the map marketplace are going to be extremely high, to a point where perhaps even Blizzard DotA would not make the cut.
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Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
May 31 2011 11:29 GMT
#364
A lot of those upgrades seem overpowered as shit.

They will need to make the campaign really hard to justify them lol

I mean, in WoL you can beat brutal with mass marinez, probably can beat HOTS with mass roach unless you need antiair a lot.
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FAPPLEdotORG
Profile Joined April 2011
United States19 Posts
May 31 2011 11:29 GMT
#365
Taking note of elements that may affect multiplayer. Of course, they could also be units that only appear in campaign like the Diamondback in WoL.




0:24
Feral Zerg

0:26 Feral Zerg seems to have a Zealot charge ability.

0:29
Splitterling - Splits into two smaller banelings upon death. Split occurs twice.
Gorgeling

0:33
So many banelings!

0:54
Wrath of the Lich King looking ice terrain.

0:56
Swarmling - 3 for the price of a pair of zerglings.
Raptor

0:58
Sasquatch looking creature that can jump cliffs like a reaper.

1:00
New type of Protoss shield?


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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
May 31 2011 11:30 GMT
#366
wow this was a huge surprise! im not sure about a lot of the zerg changes though...theyre getting further and further away from the world and lore established in the original SC and BW.
leecH
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany385 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 11:33:22
May 31 2011 11:30 GMT
#367
On May 31 2011 17:20 Chicane wrote:
Why do some people make their polls so specific without covering all the possible answers...

I don't just play multiplayer... I do also play custom games, but I wouldn't pay for them.


sorry for this disturbing poll without every possible answer.
i also, after posting, realized i had serious typos and custom maps are also multiplayer. duuh me. just woke up and had serious brain latency.

but besides the multiple bitching (booya) about my poll, its interesting alot of people may pay for "modification" like maps from third party companies, which is, if you put a bit thought into it, what blizzard is propably aiming for since they mention the "app store".

they will propably charge a fee for every sold map/mod an make a shitload of money if third party companies put something out that will get a lot of downloads. like an app store/steam etc. its a distribution platform for their their engine i guess.

and this is what i tried to figure out wich my poll did, so i you could have just answered no - no money T_T and not being a tool.
Kappa09
Profile Joined January 2011
United States149 Posts
May 31 2011 11:30 GMT
#368
HoTS is going to be awesome! Really like what I'm hearing so far. The marketplace seems like a great addition and really should encourage for some high end maps/mods/games to be made.

Thanks TL for the write up! You guys rock! <3
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
May 31 2011 11:30 GMT
#369
On May 31 2011 20:26 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
Roach

Chitinous Plating - +1 armor.
Bile Ducts – +2 damage.
Organic Carapace – Health regeneration increased by 2

Evolution:

Prowler – Enables burrow movement.
Leech – Every unit killed gains the leech 10 HP (up to a maximum of 60). Also, Health regeneration increased.

I'm glad they've finally come up with some new ideas to make the roach more interesting, it was starting to feel like a stale/1-dimensional unit. I can't wait to get try out the new +armor, +damage, +regen, +burrowed move, singleplayer-only roach upgrades in HotS!


(yes yes I realize this is a very early build and most likely will be changed, but I still find it amusing how that's the best they were able to come up with for 1 of their 2 units they put on display)


I find them boring.
Zergling get some cool shit, roaches have +armor, +damage ? booring (
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baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1110 Posts
May 31 2011 11:31 GMT
#370
awesome preview guys, and even though I don't play as Zerg im kinda super hyped for the new SP stuff... though kinda bumed that they are cutting down on the number of SP missions... as didn't they said they would all have an equal amount of SP missions for the 3 races??

But here's to hoping we see a decent bit of the MP @ blizzcon and I get into the beta :D
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
May 31 2011 11:32 GMT
#371
On May 31 2011 16:20 Lovedrop wrote:We actually just implemented a new physics engine, which implements ragdoll physics; this should allow us to have ragdoll physics effects. It won't be implemented for large scale battles; however, it could be used to animate single units; for example the last marine dying in a pack could have ragdoll physics applied to it.



Ohhh! Sounds cool :p
Some kind of special last hit, like in DoW ?

Anyway, nice interview. Keep up the good work, hope to hear more in the future!
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Chopin
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway55 Posts
May 31 2011 11:33 GMT
#372
Music still sucks.. doesn't sound like a swarm at all...
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
May 31 2011 11:33 GMT
#373
On May 31 2011 20:26 Zelniq wrote:
Show nested quote +
Roach

Chitinous Plating - +1 armor.
Bile Ducts – +2 damage.
Organic Carapace – Health regeneration increased by 2

Evolution:

Prowler – Enables burrow movement.
Leech – Every unit killed gains the leech 10 HP (up to a maximum of 60). Also, Health regeneration increased.

I'm glad they've finally come up with some new ideas to make the roach more interesting, it was starting to feel like a stale/1-dimensional unit. I can't wait to get try out the new +armor, +damage, +regen, +burrowed move, singleplayer-only roach upgrades in HotS!


(yes yes I realize this is a very early build and most likely will be changed, but I still find it amusing how that's the best they were able to come up with for 1 of their 2 units they put on display)

1 of their 3 units.

The Baneling upgrades look pretty boss, especially the Splitterling. The Zergling upgrades also look pretty scary. However, I do agree that the Roach's upgrades are dull, except for their leech life ability.
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Denia1
Profile Joined January 2011
148 Posts
May 31 2011 11:34 GMT
#374
Kerrigan not looking sexy enough.
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
May 31 2011 11:34 GMT
#375
On May 31 2011 20:27 Seikhor wrote:
Nice write up. I'm wondering if competitive play with transfer to HS for beta or will it wait for release to be more stable and balanced?

Any tournament that has begun as WoL, or begun qualifiers as WoL, will stay WoL. Any tournament which is yet to start or start its prelims, will switch.

That is my guess anyway. For WC3 you could see them using the original game for an extra year because they had already announced/started prelims etc, but most tournaments switched pretty quickly IIRC.
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LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 11:36:33
May 31 2011 11:36 GMT
#376
That's an AWESOME article! TL, you're the best!
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zestzorb
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand776 Posts
May 31 2011 11:37 GMT
#377
Now I can see why WoL's gameplay is rather enjoyable while the story is sub-par. It seems like they try to find fun ways to play a mission first, then plug in some credible story behind it.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
May 31 2011 11:38 GMT
#378
Really excitet for the campaign. I think it's very intresting that they said they're considering to remove certain units that are "not so cool".
And where are the bunker changes? x_X
x6Paramore
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada130 Posts
May 31 2011 11:40 GMT
#379
I really hope they change corruptors. The whole idea of a flying worm thing with no visible wings and snake tales just seems wrong to me.

I'm glad they are taking a bit more time for multiplayer since WoL story line seemed half assed to me except for the important parts (which there weren't that many). To the haters who think this means less emphasis on multi-player.... They never really said that and I'm pretty sure they have slightly different teams for each. What they said, at least what I took from this article, was that they were trying harder to improve multiplayer to attract less hardcore players. Don't know where it said try less hard to balance and make multiplayer fun.

Really looking forward to units added and deleted from multiplayer. As a SCBW Zerg I would like some of the old feel back to consider the race again. (squad raiding more as opposed to unit balling in late game). As a current Protoss player I hope they take out or fix dark shrine vs Templar archive business or at least put something useful in darkshrine like an upgrade. Maybe even a secondary unit for both Templar paths. Currently it seems overly invested in early game.

I also hope they don't fuck this up like they did with expansion to Command and Conquer 3 where they made each faction split into 3 and have 9 essential races with small variations between each faction. That pretty much rendered that game even more unplayable than it already was. I'm sure d.apllo can agree with me there. Since D. Browder is in charge it's a pretty possible threat.
Alethios
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
New Zealand2765 Posts
May 31 2011 11:41 GMT
#380
So many banelings!
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