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Yaotzin
South Africa4280 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:37 zestzorb wrote: Now I can see why WoL's gameplay is rather enjoyable while the story is sub-par. It seems like they try to find fun ways to play a mission first, then plug in some credible story behind it. Every dev does that... Nice writeup guys! | ||
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Elasticity
3420 Posts
Well great write up <3 | ||
Zelniq
United States7166 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:30 Noocta wrote: I find them boring. Zergling get some cool shit, roaches have +armor, +damage ? booring ( putting aside the funny roach part.... "zergling get some cool shit" ?? i have to disagree, all of those seem kinda boring and actually are mostly not new ideas. In I think the alpha of WoL, there was a hive upgrade to spawn an additional zergling from an egg. Although it does make it feel more swarm-like, it's pretty uninteresting to just get more units from less production infrastructure than you'd normally need. Spawn broodling on death is new for the zergling i think, but not new to zerg.. (queen's spawn broodling in bw, buildings dying in sc2, etc). Raptors that leap at their opponents, those aren't new they're in the campaign already, and in map editor, i think they were called 'hunterlings.' And it sounds much cooler than it is, in fact I think it's annoying to have them leap into battle, it's yet more steering away from micro/control and more into automated sequences/lack of control options, and they tend to just leap into their death quicker, which I think is why they added the +10 hp as I'm sure they noticed this problem. And finally the 0 build time is new I think and sort of cool, except for the "uh oh I need some units NOW to defend this/or do that...ah np i'll just instantly make lings! now I don't have to worry anymore and can just have an army instantly on demand" factor still though it's certainly all more interesting than the roach stuff | ||
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Rococo
United States331 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:09 phanto wrote: 99% of the design should be spent around making it balanced, not whether or not it's "cool". Your issue seems to be more about semantics than anything - cool doesn't have to mean flashy and shallow. I took their use of the word to mean mechanically interesting and strategically open-ended, which the Overseer is most definitely not. To me a cool unit would be something like the vulture or science vessel. | ||
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Nazgral
Denmark28 Posts
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amanet
Croatia334 Posts
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PreliatorMax
Philippines37 Posts
When I saw the jumping lings in the trailer... I knew it... I knew they can fly!!! | ||
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
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Drazerk
United Kingdom31255 Posts
Those baneling upgrades look really cool | ||
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Elasticity
3420 Posts
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
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Carkis
Canada302 Posts
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TheLast
Germany59 Posts
Really looking forward to HotS | ||
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Pabi
Germany126 Posts
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Seikhor
Canada116 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:34 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Any tournament that has begun as WoL, or begun qualifiers as WoL, will stay WoL. Any tournament which is yet to start or start its prelims, will switch. That is my guess anyway. For WC3 you could see them using the original game for an extra year because they had already announced/started prelims etc, but most tournaments switched pretty quickly IIRC. That was what I thought. But I think it is dangerous because we don't know if the beta will be balanced or not and it could affect competetive play a lot and favor one race over the other for certain times in certain tournaments. But, every amateur player with be playing beta so I believe it is essentiel that competetive play switch as fast as possible to please the spectators. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:52 minhchi1211 wrote: hmm anyone notices the Marketplace thingy? Seems that we'll have to pay to play good custom maps :< It just gives modders to option to sell their work if they want to and that's definitely not a bad thing. They made it after all. I'd say the creator of DotA deserved some money for example (which he did get, in a way). Anyway, I still think Kerrigan looks way too pretty. IIRC she was pretty weird looking in BW and that's more.. Zerg Queen like. Still, beta in three months (lol no)? I'm really looking forward to it. Contrary to a lot of people here I bloody loved the campaign. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:45 Rococo wrote: Your issue seems to be more about semantics than anything - cool doesn't have to mean flashy and shallow. I took their use of the word to mean mechanically interesting and strategically open-ended, which the Overseer is most definitely not. To me a cool unit is something like the vulture or science vessel. That might be but blizzards idea of cool and mechanically interesting strategy unit does not really translate into balance. The colossus on paper looks like a really cool mechanically strategic unit that can walk on cliffs and is that siege unit,but is punished for being able to get shot down by air. This results in you being unable to have the option to transition into something like a stargate tech when you went colossus because they will be going anti air anyways so it leaves you with templar tech as the only optimal transition.People complain in never seeing the carrier for instance.Well this is the reason. Colossus was a cool idea both mechanically and strategically,but it doesn't really make for interesting gameplay nor balance right now. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:55 Seikhor wrote: That was what I thought. But I think it is dangerous because we don't know if the beta will be balanced or not and it could affect competetive play a lot and favor one race over the other for certain times in certain tournaments. But, every amateur player with be playing beta so I believe it is essentiel that competetive play switch as fast as possible to please the spectators. Eh, thats just how it works - whichever race is favored will be random so the rest have to live with it and hope that they get a patch of glory as well. | ||
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ApotheosisX
United States61 Posts
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Black Octopi
187 Posts
On May 31 2011 20:45 Zelniq wrote:And finally the 0 build time is new I think and sort of cool, except for the "uh oh I need some units NOW to defend this/or do that...ah np i'll just instantly make lings! now I don't have to worry anymore and can just have an army instantly on demand" factor In a way this is "balanced" for zerg, because of larva. Producing a quick unit instantly isn't exactly game breaking either. | ||
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