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Wildsound
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
May 30 2011 03:55 GMT
#1
So we all know about the Thor + Medivac transformer-like animation:

[image loading]

However, for the other races there is no cool looking animation for when you load:

Colossus into a Warp Prism
Ultralisk into an Overlord


Would be cool to see if there are any artists out there that have some cool ideas for what they think it should look like?
I feel like there could be some cool potential for the protoss one. Maybe with the warp prism opened up like when in phase mode, with the colossus head attached and with its legs bent upwards.
As for the Zerg one, I'm not too sure. Maybe sucked up into the bottom of the overlord with its feet tucked in (like a tortoise), with its menacing pincers facing outwards.

I'm no graphical designer, but I've seen a lot of creative people on several threads showcasing their photoshop abilities. Im sure theres some people able to make some cool looking stuff!

(This is not a thread looking for wanting blizzard attention, merely some fun to see peoples artistic ideas)



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Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 04:23:35
May 30 2011 04:12 GMT
#2
The warp prism actually converts the units it transports into energy.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
May 30 2011 04:18 GMT
#3
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.
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Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
May 30 2011 04:20 GMT
#4
Just in general, it would be awesome/hilarious if overlords got more bloated when they had more units in them. And yes, for the ultralisk it would be neat to see the pincers poking out the bottom of the overlord.
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Arco
Profile Joined September 2009
United States2090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 04:24:17
May 30 2011 04:21 GMT
#5
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Not all races are supposed to be equal.

The Thor +Dropship animation is funny/cool. Deal with it.

Warp Prisms holding Colossus don't make sense since the Warp Prism "vanishes" them. Look at the animation when units are picked up -- it wouldn't make sense to hold a Colossus outside.

Overlords are really big floating guys. It makes sense that Ultralisks fit.
oPPRoBe
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States199 Posts
May 30 2011 04:21 GMT
#6
Fat ovies would be cool :D
Maybe the Tusks would show too
lmlm
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10366 Posts
May 30 2011 04:22 GMT
#7
Never realized this, lol the Overlord would look very amusing.

Agree with Rococo, the warp prism doesn't transfer them physically (as solids at least) I thought? But there can definitely be a cooler animation for the Colossus. I think when you load up other Protoss units there is a small affect with blue beams, they could make them a lot bigger for the Colossus
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BroboCop
Profile Joined December 2010
United States373 Posts
May 30 2011 04:23 GMT
#8
well obviously it should be a flying ultralisk with a overlord inside the ultralisk. don't ask me how it works. it just does.
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
May 30 2011 04:23 GMT
#9
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.
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canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
May 30 2011 04:25 GMT
#10
So... what about the overlord carrying the thor?
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 30 2011 04:25 GMT
#11
[image loading]

u mean like this?
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Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
May 30 2011 04:25 GMT
#12
It would be helpful to know if there are 10 fuaosdfvnaifvding ultralisks in those overlords going towards your base as opposed to dud overlords so you can move your army in such a position as to let the Zerg cram his real army all up in your grill.
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
May 30 2011 04:26 GMT
#13
On May 30 2011 13:21 oPPRoBe wrote:
Fat ovies would be cool :D
Maybe the Tusks would show too


haha oh god that would be so cute <3 the ovie is all bloated and u can see some tusks dangling out the front, or maybe the ultralisks stubby legs! :3
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
May 30 2011 04:27 GMT
#14
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Protoss Stargate.
Subversion
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
South Africa3627 Posts
May 30 2011 04:32 GMT
#15
On May 30 2011 13:27 how2TL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Protoss Stargate.


well i think he means with dropships.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 30 2011 04:34 GMT
#16
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?

My first thought: That Ultralisk shouldnt be considered as carried but rather dragged across the floor and leaving a trail on the ground.

My second thought: The Overlord needs more lift and thus should be bloated up immensely.

Another thought concerning the Thor carried beneath a Medivac: It shouldnt work, because the Medivac flies by using thrusters to get enough lift. These thrusters are directly above the shoulders and arms of the Thor and thus push the Thor down and wouldnt create lift. It really looks stupid and a reworking of the model might help to make it "work from the physics side of logic".
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johanngrunt
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Hong Kong1555 Posts
May 30 2011 04:36 GMT
#17
I wonder if you can load an ultra in a dropship?

(not in a real game but in a game where i can NP an scv)
han_han
Profile Joined October 2010
United States205 Posts
May 30 2011 04:38 GMT
#18
Playing starcraft for the integrity of the aerodynamics is a bad decision. Who cares about the lift on medivacs, it's set in the future. They could have discovered some weird technology that lets their shit float without those thrusters.

I don't think zerg and protoss massive units in their respective drop-vessels warrant any unique animations. Ultralisks obviously can't transform, and warp prisms are as close to magic as they can get.
Wildsound
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom144 Posts
May 30 2011 04:42 GMT
#19
On May 30 2011 13:22 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
Never realized this, lol the Overlord would look very amusing.

Agree with Rococo, the warp prism doesn't transfer them physically (as solids at least) I thought? But there can definitely be a cooler animation for the Colossus. I think when you load up other Protoss units there is a small affect with blue beams, they could make them a lot bigger for the Colossus


Yeah I guess you could be right about the protoss thing. Although I guess maybe a colour change or something to the warp prism (flashing between 2 colours maybe) if we want to be really basic, with possibly a change in physical appearance to the prism.

I did think about the possible annoyances in that you can scout a "thorship" before it gets to your base, whereas you can't for the other dropships, but I didn't wana go into anything that could be balance related.
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Shadowcloak
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
May 30 2011 05:05 GMT
#20
im Terran and i even i know making overlords look bigger/bloated or diffren when there is a ultra in it is DUMB since the other team will just focusfire that overlord imo its asking for it
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 30 2011 05:08 GMT
#21
On May 30 2011 13:32 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:27 how2TL wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Protoss Stargate.


well i think he means with dropships.

Yeah but the point is that each race doesn't have to be identical and that there are differing aspects to each race, so the fact that you can tell it's a Thor doesn't necessarily mean that it should be removed to imitate the other races.
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 30 2011 05:09 GMT
#22
On May 30 2011 14:05 Shadowcloak wrote:
im Terran and i even i know making overlords look bigger/bloated or diffren when there is a ultra in it is DUMB since the other team will just focusfire that overlord imo its asking for it

And the same wouldnt happen with the Thor hanging from the Medivac?
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Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 05:12:23
May 30 2011 05:11 GMT
#23
The Warp-Prism is actually completely hollow, have a good look at the model--it is like a box kite (feels like it ingame as well ^^).
Ropid
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany3557 Posts
May 30 2011 05:12 GMT
#24
Perhaps ultralisks are actually inflatable and that is how they fit into an overlord?
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how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
May 30 2011 05:20 GMT
#25
On May 30 2011 13:32 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:27 how2TL wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Protoss Stargate.


well i think he means with dropships.


I think it's a fair comparison nonetheless.
tmIntoTheFruitro
Profile Joined February 2011
United States76 Posts
May 30 2011 05:22 GMT
#26
Fat ovies would be funny, but I kinda like threatening baneling drops with empty ovies sometimes. if people could tell they were empty that would kinda ruin it.
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ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
May 30 2011 05:23 GMT
#27
when im in a game and i see a thor in a medivac coming my way i lol
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0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 05:31:12
May 30 2011 05:30 GMT
#28
To be honest, the thor carry is the worst visual part of Sc2 because it looks ridiculous and comepletely ruins the illusion of pseudo-reality.

The infested terran 'softball lob' is a close second. They should be shot in line drives and stick to the target location like velcro but with zerg puss, that's more believable.

The Colossus walking is third, because it moves so fast and looks stupid and the legs are too thin.
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
May 30 2011 05:38 GMT
#29
On May 30 2011 13:36 johanngrunt wrote:
I wonder if you can load an ultra in a dropship?

(not in a real game but in a game where i can NP an scv)


You can, but there is no special animation for either ultra or colossus in a dropship.
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iokke
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 06:18:00
May 30 2011 05:46 GMT
#30
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?


that made me feel really bad for that poor ovie, getting an ultra inside must rly hurt
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rbx270j
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada540 Posts
May 30 2011 06:12 GMT
#31
I think the overlord should grab the ultra with the dangly bits, and the Ultra should violently squirm like he doesn't want to be lifted. then 2 seconds later, he gives up and goes limp until dropped.
TedJustice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1324 Posts
May 30 2011 06:19 GMT
#32
Ultralisks can fit inside a tiny egg, so they probably shrink to fit inside an overlord.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
May 30 2011 06:35 GMT
#33
As stated earlier, the Colossus is converted into an energy form when transferred into the Warp Prism.

An Overlord transporting an Ultralisk is a disgusting thought no matter how you twist the idea around.

- Tentacles used as ropes to carry the Ultralisk would remind me of tentacle sex. -_-"

- The Overlord carrying the Ultralisk as they are currently gives you a disturbing thought as to how the orifice would stretch to accommodate the Ultralisk.

It makes me wonder more about the Overlord's willingness to even have the drop ship feature researched...
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wongfeihung
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States763 Posts
May 30 2011 06:44 GMT
#34
On May 30 2011 13:34 Rabiator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?

My first thought: That Ultralisk shouldnt be considered as carried but rather dragged across the floor and leaving a trail on the ground.

My second thought: The Overlord needs more lift and thus should be bloated up immensely.

So... like this?

[image loading]
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
May 30 2011 06:44 GMT
#35
Toss has visuals of the unit being built in Stargate. Nydus worm makes a noise all can hear.

Every race got little something or other.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
May 30 2011 06:48 GMT
#36
OMFG FLYING ULTRAS WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!!

But seriously, if Ultras could be carried outside overlords, they could attack while flying, and I don't think we'd want that.
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Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
May 30 2011 06:51 GMT
#37
On May 30 2011 15:44 wongfeihung wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:34 Rabiator wrote:
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?

My first thought: That Ultralisk shouldnt be considered as carried but rather dragged across the floor and leaving a trail on the ground.

My second thought: The Overlord needs more lift and thus should be bloated up immensely.

So... like this?

[image loading]


This...this is beautiful O.O you should contact blizzard for a spot on their graphic design team asap!
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Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 07:04:29
May 30 2011 06:57 GMT
#38
in lore, i think overlords expand there bodies to bigger sizes in order to fit there load. which is why the drop upgrade is called what it is. so that is why a overlord is able to fit a ultra inside of it cuz it expands its sacs to where it can. medivacs obviously cannot expand there haul so it has to carry a massive unit like thor on the outside.

and as for the warp prism, well its a WARP prism... the way the toss race works then im sure ppl can think up a reason to why the warp prism works the way it does. when ur picking up units it seems to convert them to energy and when unloading it returns them to normal form.
Navillus
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1188 Posts
May 30 2011 07:01 GMT
#39
On May 30 2011 14:30 0neder wrote:
To be honest, the thor carry is the worst visual part of Sc2 because it looks ridiculous and comepletely ruins the illusion of pseudo-reality.

The infested terran 'softball lob' is a close second. They should be shot in line drives and stick to the target location like velcro but with zerg puss, that's more believable.

The Colossus walking is third, because it moves so fast and looks stupid and the legs are too thin.


Idk the fact that it's a computer game being run on my 16" laptop screen kinda does it for me.
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
May 30 2011 07:01 GMT
#40
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?

like this imo

[image loading]
BAMK
Profile Joined January 2011
United States117 Posts
May 30 2011 07:14 GMT
#41
On May 30 2011 15:35 Tatari wrote:
As stated earlier, the Colossus is converted into an energy form when transferred into the Warp Prism.


Wait, are you SURE it doesn't temporarily warp the units to somewhere close by and then re-warp them back in when it drops off? That's how it always made sense to me...EXCEPT

1) most units you drop off are built from warpgates so it makes sense for them to warp in/out
2) colossus and immortals are built from robotics, so they actually shouldn't be able to warp!

So it would make total sense to see robotic units have a cool animation of some sort (maybe like tractor beams holding it up or something) :D.
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Ballistixz
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 07:17:29
May 30 2011 07:14 GMT
#42
lol such bad windows paint edits =p


On May 30 2011 16:14 BAMK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 15:35 Tatari wrote:
As stated earlier, the Colossus is converted into an energy form when transferred into the Warp Prism.


Wait, are you SURE it doesn't temporarily warp the units to somewhere close by and then re-warp them back in when it drops off? That's how it always made sense to me...EXCEPT

1) most units you drop off are built from warpgates so it makes sense for them to warp in/out
2) colossus and immortals are built from robotics, so they actually shouldn't be able to warp!

So it would make total sense to see robotic units have a cool animation of some sort (maybe like tractor beams holding it up or something) :D.


well if they were simply warped somewhere then all u would need to do is get another warp prism and get ur units back that were loaded into it instead of them being destroyed. but instead when te prism is destroyed the units inside are destroyed and lost to. which is why the energy conversion is most logical from a SC2 lore point of view.
Foxx1
Profile Joined April 2011
United States57 Posts
May 30 2011 07:16 GMT
#43
Seems the debate really is geared towards the casual vs competitive crowd. 1. It would look cool. 2. It gives the other player and advantage.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
May 30 2011 07:18 GMT
#44
On May 30 2011 13:36 johanngrunt wrote:
I wonder if you can load an ultra in a dropship?

(not in a real game but in a game where i can NP an scv)


try it in a 2v2 where your ally leaves? i dont know if that would work but it would be cool lol

I would love it if the warp prism did extra stuff for when a Col was inside it, would be funny as hell 2 see it.
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Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 07:24:11
May 30 2011 07:23 GMT
#45
I always imagined zerg units gets 'morphed' to fit inside the overlord. Perhaps make the overlord pods vary in size?

You can't fake-out dropping if you can tell the difference between an empty transport unit with a full one.

So to make things fair, maybe the other races need this, but I don't really think its necessary because I believe Terrans rely on dropships more than zergs and protoss. Because they are somewhat an immobile race compared to zergs/protoss they rely and transports. Maybe its alright if terrans have this sort of indication?

WIth that, I wouldn't mind having tanks visible. Realistically, they can probably fit inside a medivac, but the size in the game, it would look cool if they were mounted on the bottom too. If theres one, have it centered, if theres two, have em side by side.

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Mephyss
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Brazil128 Posts
May 30 2011 07:35 GMT
#46
I think the Thor/medivac animation has the same idea as the Stargate showing which unit is being produced which can be or not for balance purpose but only Blizz can tell
Rococo
Profile Joined May 2011
United States331 Posts
May 30 2011 08:05 GMT
#47
On May 30 2011 16:14 BAMK wrote:
Wait, are you SURE it doesn't temporarily warp the units to somewhere close by and then re-warp them back in when it drops off?


http://us.starcraft2.com/features/protoss/phaseprism.xml
According to Blizzard: "Living and inorganic subjects are transformed into energy, and their unique signature imprinted into the prism's crystal lattice core. On reaching the desired destination the operation is reversed and the stored energy signatures are reconfigured into matter in proximity to the phase prism."


On May 30 2011 14:30 0neder wrote:
To be honest, the thor carry is the worst visual part of Sc2 because it looks ridiculous and comepletely ruins the illusion of pseudo-reality.

The infested terran 'softball lob' is a close second. They should be shot in line drives and stick to the target location like velcro but with zerg puss, that's more believable.

The Colossus walking is third, because it moves so fast and looks stupid and the legs are too thin.


I'm a little bit bothered by the Colossus as well - something about its walk animation just looks off - but I find the clipping issues with grouped Thors way worse. Specificially how their arms go into each other. This is also the case with Ultralisks to an extent.
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
May 30 2011 09:07 GMT
#48
On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
[image loading]

u mean like this?


No like this:

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Chirio
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany20 Posts
May 30 2011 10:30 GMT
#49
An Ultralisk riding an overlord is the best idea :D

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xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 30 2011 10:31 GMT
#50
On May 30 2011 16:35 Mephyss wrote:
I think the Thor/medivac animation has the same idea as the Stargate showing which unit is being produced which can be or not for balance purpose but only Blizz can tell


then we should be able to see ultralisks clearly in overlords!

BLOATED OVERLORDS FTW!
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Dystisis
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway713 Posts
May 30 2011 10:48 GMT
#51
On May 30 2011 13:34 Rabiator wrote:
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On May 30 2011 13:25 xza wrote:
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u mean like this?

My first thought: That Ultralisk shouldnt be considered as carried but rather dragged across the floor and leaving a trail on the ground.

My second thought: The Overlord needs more lift and thus should be bloated up immensely.

Another thought concerning the Thor carried beneath a Medivac: It shouldnt work, because the Medivac flies by using thrusters to get enough lift. These thrusters are directly above the shoulders and arms of the Thor and thus push the Thor down and wouldnt create lift. It really looks stupid and a reworking of the model might help to make it "work from the physics side of logic".

Logic and physics have nothing to do with each other.

And I don't think realism is what they are going for, a Medivac would never be able to lift something like a Thor in any case.
Tristy
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway172 Posts
May 30 2011 11:00 GMT
#52
On May 30 2011 13:21 oPPRoBe wrote:
Fat ovies would be cool :D
Maybe the Tusks would show too


If the tusks showed I believe we will have a flat overlord crashing towards the ground.
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Drium
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States888 Posts
May 30 2011 11:02 GMT
#53
The overlord wouldn't get bloated because in the lore overlords are much bigger than they appear in the game. They are how the zerg travel from planet to planet.

Then again ultralisks are also much bigger in the lore.
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RaLakedaimon
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1564 Posts
May 30 2011 11:04 GMT
#54
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Yeah I agree with this way of looking at it, even though maybe some situations might change the way it goes in general just seeing a ton of drops moving in would maybe me move all my army home and defend it properly regardless of what was inside. Also normally all zergs I've played have scouted the armory so they normally know whats up based on the maps. But in particular the only map zerg would always know was Lost Temple which is sadly not in the lineup anymore.
jlim
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Spain943 Posts
May 30 2011 11:05 GMT
#55
and this is why I love starcraft community
Gooey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States944 Posts
May 30 2011 11:08 GMT
#56
On May 30 2011 20:02 Drium wrote:
The overlord wouldn't get bloated because in the lore overlords are much bigger than they appear in the game. They are how the zerg travel from planet to planet.

Then again ultralisks are also much bigger in the lore.
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Yeah, I remember watching a video trailer forever ago that showed the overlords, and they were absolutely massive. Ultras are much smaller than overlords when you look at the design model they originate from. I remember watching it then cracking up at how large my probe must really be in comparison to the in-game overlord.
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GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
May 30 2011 11:11 GMT
#57
wish they made cinematics with all the units then we would know the actual size of all them :p
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Latedi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden1027 Posts
May 30 2011 11:17 GMT
#58
I always imagined units riding overlords were somehow grabbing on to all those tentacles, since they seem to be mostly just hanging. Not sure how an ultralisk would do that though.
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
May 30 2011 11:32 GMT
#59
for the robo units they can be warped without a problem, but its easier to construct them on the field, as they don't require protoss to pilot them. First the sentry was nexus and the immortal gateway. Because the sentry is a robot, whilte the immortal is still a protoss. But both didn't worked out so they had to switch that up in the multiplayer for the sake of balance ^^.

The overlords have no special look, but the units while dropped have. Don't see why the overlord has to bloat while the units make themself as small as possible hehe.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
May 30 2011 11:37 GMT
#60
Guys, I just realized:

Zerg cocoons ---> zerg units of all sizes, so theoretically you can shrink them back to the size of a small egg since they apparently fit in overlords with no problem.

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Also, certain zerg units are capable of morphing into stronger organisms under certain conditions and if enough mined minerals are applied to the unit. They also use attacking methods intrinsic to their physical makeup rather than relying on external weaponry to do battle. The zerg developed their specific role in the zerg overmind army through extensive genetic manipulation of local animal populations to best fit their environment as well as their needed function in battle.

Though some zerg units attack with simple hand-to-claw attacks, others use almost magical abilities to attack from afar or even inflict negative status effects on the enemy. Some of these abilities require the prior evolution of them before they can be used, at which point the zerg unit can use it perfectly forever.

Though there are supposedly a nearly unlimited amount of zerg types since they've conquered countless planets and thus assimilated countless fauna, we only see a small portion of them in each installment of the game, with new faces showing themselves with each series.


+ Show Spoiler +
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HOLY CRAP ZERG ARE POKEMON





Note the relentless goal of Raynor to "catch" the biggest zergmon of them all: Kerrigan.
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How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 11:40:04
May 30 2011 11:39 GMT
#61
Who the hell cares about transporting Ultralisks with Overlords.

...

We need Overlords to be able to swing Ultralisks around for true cleaving damage.

Mineral harassement with an Overlord swinging an Ultralisk pl0x.
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ShrimpDance
Profile Joined September 2010
392 Posts
May 30 2011 11:50 GMT
#62
Not really a design idea, but I think that massive units that are in a dropship that gets killed shouldn't die, but rather just fall out.
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#63
On May 30 2011 20:37 Emporio wrote:
Guys, I just realized:

Zerg cocoons ---> zerg units of all sizes, so theoretically you can shrink them back to the size of a small egg since they apparently fit in overlords with no problem.

[image loading]


Also, certain zerg units are capable of morphing into stronger organisms under certain conditions and if enough mined minerals are applied to the unit. They also use attacking methods intrinsic to their physical makeup rather than relying on external weaponry to do battle. The zerg developed their specific role in the zerg overmind army through extensive genetic manipulation of local animal populations to best fit their environment as well as their needed function in battle.

Though some zerg units attack with simple hand-to-claw attacks, others use almost magical abilities to attack from afar or even inflict negative status effects on the enemy. Some of these abilities require the prior evolution of them before they can be used, at which point the zerg unit can use it perfectly forever.

Though there are supposedly a nearly unlimited amount of zerg types since they've conquered countless planets and thus assimilated countless fauna, we only see a small portion of them in each installment of the game, with new faces showing themselves with each series.


+ Show Spoiler +
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HOLY CRAP ZERG ARE POKEMON





Note the relentless goal of Raynor to "catch" the biggest zergmon of them all: Kerrigan.
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so ur saying that zerg can change their size to fit in ovies? oh and that jim raynor pic is just.. lulworthy
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FarbrorAbavna
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden4856 Posts
May 30 2011 11:53 GMT
#64
protoss can warp in units out of thin air(yeah yeah pylon energy whatever :D) so the colossus "disappearing" into the warp prism is nothing.

The ultralisk though, now that would be funny if it was something similar to how the thor is transported or the overlord getting all bloated like others have said :D
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Bozotclown
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom60 Posts
May 30 2011 12:24 GMT
#65
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Overlords don't seem that big.
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faulty
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada204 Posts
May 30 2011 13:43 GMT
#66
t`s are actually at a disadvantage in this regard because the opponent knows which dropship to focus down.

Although i dont think anything shoudl be done with the warp prism since it makes since, I think the ultralisk should be tucked under the overlord and wrapped by its tentacles.
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mavsfan0041
Profile Joined February 2011
United States306 Posts
May 30 2011 13:48 GMT
#67
I think the the Ultra should ride on TOP of the overlord. Not for any logical reason; I just think it would look neat, having this giant beast on top of a floating sac.
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xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 30 2011 16:45 GMT
#68
On May 30 2011 22:48 mavsfan0041 wrote:
I think the the Ultra should ride on TOP of the overlord. Not for any logical reason; I just think it would look neat, having this giant beast on top of a floating sac.


yeah if the overlords were filled with vespene gas like helium :D
"What a terrible final. This is why BO3s are horrible. Seriously MKP vs Moon in a final and having it BO3 is like having Mila Kunis naked in your bed and all she'll give you is a HJ with her PJs on. Pffffffffffffffftt." -greatZERG
Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
May 30 2011 16:50 GMT
#69
I think it would look cool if units would stand on top of overlords, and then when you go to baneling bombs you see them jump off into the marines. Shit would be so cash.

I think the warp prism/collosus change should be implemented because it would be hilarious.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
May 30 2011 17:07 GMT
#70
That Ultra riding Overlord picture is too funny.
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Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
May 30 2011 19:29 GMT
#71
As has been said, no problems gameplay wise, but damn if there aren't some hilarious illustrations in this thread!

Although if these were implemented, I foresee Zergs going mass Ultra drops and just load and unload constantly for the lolz.
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Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
May 30 2011 19:39 GMT
#72
There are balance issues with making the unit inside a dropship visible to anyone. If I know what's in your dropship, then that removes the element of surprise. Personally:[image loading]
As you can see, the tentacles dangling down from the Overlord hook into the back of the Ultralisk, and carry it around outside of the overlord. Alternatively, the Back of the ultralisk would fit into the ventral sacs of the Overlord, and the legs and scythes hang out the bottom.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-30 19:43:11
May 30 2011 19:42 GMT
#73
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2011 21:24 Bozotclown wrote:
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Overlords don't seem that big.

Whoa... May I ask where that picture is from? Some cinematic? Heavens devils?
brownthing
Profile Joined November 2009
United States189 Posts
May 30 2011 19:52 GMT
#74
On May 31 2011 04:42 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On May 30 2011 21:24 Bozotclown wrote:
[image loading]

Overlords don't seem that big.

Whoa... May I ask where that picture is from? Some cinematic? Heavens devils?


Starcraft: Ghost, I think.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 30 2011 19:55 GMT
#75
If you think about it, not much of starcraft is actually to scale. Look at carriers/bcs in game vs the cinematic. Theres a fan art somewhere that shows the true scale using the blizzard numbers. This game doesnt really take scale into account. Honestly, with the size of ultras, how could any marine stand up from the force of the hit? Scaling overlords, ultras, etc... not the biggest priority of blizzard, so they probably won't do it.
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SilverJohnny
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States885 Posts
May 30 2011 19:57 GMT
#76
On May 30 2011 20:37 Emporio wrote:
Guys, I just realized:

Zerg cocoons ---> zerg units of all sizes, so theoretically you can shrink them back to the size of a small egg since they apparently fit in overlords with no problem.

[image loading]


Also, certain zerg units are capable of morphing into stronger organisms under certain conditions and if enough mined minerals are applied to the unit. They also use attacking methods intrinsic to their physical makeup rather than relying on external weaponry to do battle. The zerg developed their specific role in the zerg overmind army through extensive genetic manipulation of local animal populations to best fit their environment as well as their needed function in battle.

Though some zerg units attack with simple hand-to-claw attacks, others use almost magical abilities to attack from afar or even inflict negative status effects on the enemy. Some of these abilities require the prior evolution of them before they can be used, at which point the zerg unit can use it perfectly forever.

Though there are supposedly a nearly unlimited amount of zerg types since they've conquered countless planets and thus assimilated countless fauna, we only see a small portion of them in each installment of the game, with new faces showing themselves with each series.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


HOLY CRAP ZERG ARE POKEMON





Note the relentless goal of Raynor to "catch" the biggest zergmon of them all: Kerrigan.
[image loading]



hahahaha I died, that's too funny!

OT - I think ovies and prisms are fine as is, I just wish there was more cool drop micro I could do with them. wtb reavers T_T
also i think you should be able to combine like 5 archons to make a really really shitty oliver stone film - Keanu_Reaver, bw balance genius
xza
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore1600 Posts
May 31 2011 02:24 GMT
#77
On May 31 2011 04:39 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
There are balance issues with making the unit inside a dropship visible to anyone. If I know what's in your dropship, then that removes the element of surprise. Personally:[image loading]
As you can see, the tentacles dangling down from the Overlord hook into the back of the Ultralisk, and carry it around outside of the overlord. Alternatively, the Back of the ultralisk would fit into the ventral sacs of the Overlord, and the legs and scythes hang out the bottom.


haha it would be like a hermit crab. and yeah i can see zergs load/unload ultras as a diss to mule drops
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BushidoSnipr
Profile Joined November 2010
United States910 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-31 02:31:32
May 31 2011 02:30 GMT
#78
Also, i think it would be totally badass if, when the OV starting spewing creep, all the units inside came out with all the creep

It would make drops 19483942420 X cooler.
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
May 31 2011 02:31 GMT
#79
On May 30 2011 13:23 SilverPotato wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2011 13:18 Backpack wrote:
I personally would like to see the thor animation removed. The fact that I already know whats in the medivac when i scout it leaving your base is just silly.

Yeah I kind of agree, thinking about it, Terran is the only race that has that revealing factor, but TBH when you see medivacs coming at your base (or any transport unit) your first thoughts are not "oh look at those medivacs with this that and those in them", its more like "OH CRAP! Time to move my army back home" regardless of what is inside the medivacs.


Some information is compromised just so things can look cool, i.e. the Stargate.
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Existor
Profile Joined July 2010
Russian Federation4295 Posts
May 31 2011 02:54 GMT
#80
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Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
May 31 2011 03:52 GMT
#81
People really need to learn to scale their images ...
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edc
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States666 Posts
May 31 2011 04:08 GMT
#82
On May 30 2011 13:12 Rococo wrote:
The warp prism actually converts the units it transports into energy.


I checked the Warp Prism description on the Starcraft 2 main site, and it matched this person's description. Therefore, lore wise it would only be right to keep the Warp Prism as it is. However, I think Overlords could use an improvement.
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Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
May 31 2011 05:13 GMT
#83
How about if the ultralisk rides the overlord?
And yeah warp prism can let out some indication of the collussus because it's too massive to be fully contained by that technology or something
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