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Decelea
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia92 Posts
May 12 2011 07:44 GMT
#101
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
May 12 2011 07:45 GMT
#102
Does this clash with the Super Tournament? If so, a lot of the top Koreans won't be able to make it.
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Battousai13
Profile Joined September 2010
United States638 Posts
May 12 2011 07:45 GMT
#103
I'm guessing at least one of the four players have to be from oGs. They sent TOP and InCa to Dreamhack last winter. MC has been to like everything so far. My money is on NaDa showing up to this one. It would be awesome to have one of the best BW bonjwa competing with NA players on equal latency. I get the feeling that BoxeR will be in attendance too, since he missed the Dreamhack Invitational.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 12 2011 07:47 GMT
#104
Boxer possibly? He did go to Blizzcon for the show match. And they do have a slayers member in NA I believe as well as Cella being Cella.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
May 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#105
On May 12 2011 16:44 Sickshakes wrote:
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.


well all the top players are usually seeded, so i think they will easily blast through the open bracket. though they have to play alots of games, im sure that doesnt bother them because they are professionals. not much rewards but im sure they are just trying to get into the national championship
omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
May 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#106
On May 12 2011 16:44 Sickshakes wrote:
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.


agree. All they need to do in the GSL is ride the subway to GOMtv studio and play 2 or 3 games. That's all. It cost nothing, whereas traveling to MLG would cost 10k for a team of 4 players.
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 12 2011 07:59 GMT
#107
On May 12 2011 16:52 omegan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 16:44 Sickshakes wrote:
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.


agree. All they need to do in the GSL is ride the subway to GOMtv studio and play 2 or 3 games. That's all. It cost nothing, whereas traveling to MLG would cost 10k for a team of 4 players.


I think winning money is a big part of going to MLG, but I also think (as has been mentioned before) that there is also a lot of value in developing highly competitive tournament experience. And with the GSL basically being all that there is in South Korea, successful pro teams may see that 10k as an investment in promising players to develop the experience and stability to perform well in tournaments like the GSL. It also gets players outside of Korea and opens them up to the foreign SC2 scene, which I think is going to play a larger role down the line when compared to BW.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 08:02:30
May 12 2011 08:00 GMT
#108
Very nice, finally a solid reason to look forward to the MLG. \o/
Let's hope they've learned from all the problems they had in Dallas.
(ensuring stable internet, stable stream but also having a decent schedule for the players)


On May 12 2011 16:52 omegan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2011 16:44 Sickshakes wrote:
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.


agree. All they need to do in the GSL is ride the subway to GOMtv studio and play 2 or 3 games. That's all. It cost nothing, whereas traveling to MLG would cost 10k for a team of 4 players.


Think of it that way: the moment they manage to finish high and get a good seed in the next tournament, it might become a lucrative investment from then on.
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
May 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#109
Pretty cool, maybe Ace will come over :D
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doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
May 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#110
On May 12 2011 16:44 Sickshakes wrote:
While i'm glad Koreans are likely to make it to another international tournament, i feel bad for them for choosing to go to MLG. MLGs format is not suited to people outside NA or who don't attend every one of their tournaments because the seeding process for the Top 16 makes it impossible for those players to place outside of the top 24, and almost guaranteeing their seeding for the next event etc. The Korean players meanwhile will have to go through a tiring open bracket for a day and a half. Assuming they do make it through (not a given, there are other good players in the open brackets) they then have to play against the best foreigners back to back in 4 Bo3s and THEN play through the rest of the double elim bracket, all for a first place prize of a few thousand, to barely make up the plane and accomodation costs. It's not impossible, Naniwa did just that last tournament, but even the best players will lose sometimes. I just feel bad that the Koreans will turn up and get so little reward out of it.


Maybe mlg paid for their travels?
supdubdup
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States916 Posts
May 12 2011 08:06 GMT
#111
In before, "Koreans own white people," part 2. I hope MLG Columbus will have sick games.
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Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
May 12 2011 08:08 GMT
#112
On May 12 2011 17:06 supdubdup wrote:
In before, "Koreans own white people," part 2. I hope MLG Columbus will have sick games.


I wonder if this could lead a larger discrepancy in general attendee interest in favor of SC2 over the other major aspects of MLG.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-12 08:10:06
May 12 2011 08:09 GMT
#113
my guess is that it's just going to be players who didn't make the super tournament.
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papaz
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden4149 Posts
May 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#114
On May 12 2011 17:09 GTR wrote:
my guess is that it's just going to be players who didn't make the super tournament.


yeah, this.

Anyways it's still very exciting to see that tournaments become more international.

Really fun when there is a mix of koreans and non-koreans in tournaments.

Xerrea
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark41 Posts
May 12 2011 08:13 GMT
#115
MLG had south koreans in WoW arena first!
desRow
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2654 Posts
May 12 2011 08:21 GMT
#116
Sixjax has so many great articles lately on their website, gj evoli yea columbus will have sick competition !
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Moofadoobada
Profile Joined February 2011
United States266 Posts
May 12 2011 08:26 GMT
#117
On May 12 2011 17:09 GTR wrote:
my guess is that it's just going to be players who didn't make the super tournament.


Most definitely, still should be very good competition and I'm excited to see how well they can do in the MLG format where a majority of english speaking players complained about not even knowing when they were going to play due to the horrible scheduling.
Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
May 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#118
well atleast we allready know the winner now.. :/
Don't get me wrong I love to see korean players but they won every LAN they attended, takes the fun away for me.
Xsoild
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
May 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#119
ive heard that mlg is not even a good event. i dont know cause i havent been but they are just bad all round so far with everything i have seen the the stream is fucking terrible. they are supposed to have this big budget and almost anyone off the street could have done better than what they did.
Keep on trying
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
May 12 2011 08:32 GMT
#120
On May 12 2011 16:45 blooblooblahblah wrote:
Does this clash with the Super Tournament? If so, a lot of the top Koreans won't be able to make it.

Games won't be played during MLG and I think if GOM is in partnership with MLG, I would think they would reschedule matches for players leaving and coming back from MLG. So it could still be Super Tournament players.
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