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On May 10 2011 14:06 blade55555 wrote:
wow thats interesting (IM has made it too the finals both times won once, lost once right?). Yeah GOM needs too fix that somehow xD. But glad too see another team league. I really hope there's a "proleague" like system like bw where its 4 1v1's and an ace 1v1 and switches with winners league every x amount of months.
I so agree with that proleague system! Would make things more interesting in my opinion. In addition it would last longer which is always a cool thing. Now we see like 1-3 matches from our favorite teams... against 1-3 teams
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Last time: SlayerS vs IM
Now, SlayerS vs oGs for another tense finals, gogogogogogo
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so basically there is no need to invite the best team out there
well its gom's problem they are gonna lose a lot of viewers cause of that
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Rules are rules. I dont like it, and they will prob change them for next season, but you cant change it midway cus you dont like how it turned out.
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Sorry but this is just incredibly stupid and makes me about 75% less excited for GSTL than I was before.
A somewhat related problem is how someone who was champion just the previous tournament can have 2 bad days or draw tough matchups on 2 days and fall out of the money league for a whole next season (on top of not getting to see him in the tournament he was eliminated from), and then because of that, his team which is a former champion and defending runner up doesn't get to compete in the next team season. (yes if just MVP was code S, no other changes, IM makes the points).
It's all a travesty.
Oh and the group choosing system for up/down, it also promotes keeping some of the very weakest code S players in code S as long as the code A champion/runner up are self-interested.
With all these flaws, making admittance to the team league also just a factor of code S/code A placement is a terrible idea.
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Not being able to participate in the GSTL I imagine is going to further elevate the IM sponsor/funding problems (and thus their player recruitment).
I will not be purchasing a season ticket unless a game turns out to be particularly good enough to warrant it as I am an Incredible Miracle fanatic and a Korean Team League without their participation seems to be something I won't mind missing.
Hopefully GOMTV revise their team selection to be done post GSL rather than during and hopefully IM will get some of their other players into Code A this season to prevent such a travesty occurring again come the next GSTL.
I'm not digging to position of the golds on the new map, if a planetary fortress is placed there it looks tricky to bypass, but we'll see.
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No IM is a bit of a kick in the pants for the viewer ship but the biggest losers will be the eventual winners. Winning a team league minus the team considered the strongest. As a ST supporter i really wanted to see ST v IM rematch from season 1.
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On May 10 2011 19:44 Joseph123 wrote:
so basically there is no need to invite the best team out there
well its gom's problem they are gonna lose a lot of viewers cause of that
If IM was the best team out there, they would have had more players in code A to compensate for MVP's fall to code A. Look at OGS, they have plenty of players in both code A and code S. As far as I can tell, MVP only has 2 players in code A, and 2 players in code S. While seeing MVP/loisira/nestea in a tournament is cool, three members do not make the whole team, and perhaps if IM wants to go to more GSTL's, they should start helping their up and coming members in their quest to qualify for the GSL.
Besides, they'd have to eject a team that earned their place already, according to the rules. They can't just shit on that team's achievement. Who knows, maybe the team MVP will be one of the better teams in the teamleague, or perhaps SC is going to do better this time around. If esports is to be taken seriously, they have to have some semblance of competitive integrity. Inviting a team because they'll give you more viewers in lieu of another team who won't give you that luxury is pretty stupid in a competitive environment.
That said, they'll probably change the rules next month or something. Like adding a z variable for "You have an M in your team name, take 5 points".
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The map is really beautiful.
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No ImNeast?!
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
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On May 10 2011 19:44 Pekkz wrote:
Rules are rules. I dont like it, and they will prob change them for next season, but you cant change it midway cus you dont like how it turned out.
Absolutely. When they started the team leagues I thought the rules were fine, but this is a pretty big weakness.
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wow that new map looks cool, refreshing new tile set finally 
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So ironic that MVP beat 3 MVP members in Code A lol
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I think we should let MVP clan a chance to prove they diserve that spot. Maybe they'll be the new slayers this season. I'm a bit disappointed but I'm still curious to see MVP's line up.
EDIT : btw the new map looks awesome
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I think the team format should change based on the points earned in previous GTSL's, rather than individual performances, it is a team league after all.
Either way.. beautiful map. Can't believe it's taken so long for something like this to appear from the editor. Stop using the Xel-naga tile set.. more maps like this. Visually appealing is something SC2 has over every RTS, why bog it down with ugly as shit maps.
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Cool map, sucks for IM though.
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I would preffer some more stable like spanish football league,like 12 teams, and able to increase the number as wella s the team number increase. I want PROLEAGUE!!
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Top 4 in GSTL one season should be seeded into the next one imo
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oGs- SlayerS final! calling it now 
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It's unfortunate, but you cant just change the rules because one of the favorite teams didnt make it. For future GSTL's they might wanna change their point system though to include how deep in the tournaments the players are and seeding based on previous GSTL's. But that's for the next GSTL to change, for now we gotta stick to the rules, and besides this could be a break through for team MVP and I think it would be fun to see more teams fighting for the 8 GSTL spots rather then 8 auto invite teams.
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