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Butigroove
Seychelles2061 Posts
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nvs.
Canada3609 Posts
SO to all the trolls out there and the people holding us back so damn much TAKE A HUGE BREATHE and bite your tongue ... because I know one thing your hurting a lot more then just some little flame you get off on. Do you mean to say we are hurting.... e-sports? O_o | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
You mean Wheat's answer is in the WoC thread or that the talk was in WoC (and not LO3) ? Your post is confusing :p | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On June 29 2011 22:55 zarepath wrote: It was during the beginning of WoC, I remember it. Omg, I missed it (not only I missed that talk during WoC but I also read "in the WoC thread" and not "WoC") I'm confused and shameful now, and understand your disappointment >< I missed the last WoC totally, don't know how it happened as I thought I was upto date. Well, on the bright side I have something interesting to listen to now. In fact I hadn't missed the whole show, just the beginning. | ||
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
I'm sorry you think I'm a troll, that was really not my intention. I more or less knew my assumption was wrong, but oh well, I posted it still. I really not asking you you talk about GSL all day (or even to dedicate time to it), but as I like hearing you opinion on things (or your guests' opinions), I was just frustrated about these 2 or 3 events that I posted about. And frustrated people post a lot of dumb things, I can attest that as a regular live report thread maker :D I want to emphasis that again, I didn't want to troll or hate, usually I just don't listen or watch what I don't like, so my point was not saying you're bad (for ESPORTS) or whatever other negative thing. I thought perhaps some of your sponsors perhaps didn't want you to talk about the GSL. Anyway, sorry about my last post, it was an honest mistake. And now we're purchase history brothers, so it's all cool <3 (I have not missed one episode of WoC or LO3 for a year and I managed to miss the one where I make an appearance, that's something) | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
And thanks for making lots of LR threads | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
 Normal, and great that people in esports are more "legit" and financial responsible. Very, very sad on the other hand though. | ||
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SushilS
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CrossTheRiver
26 Posts
On June 29 2011 18:14 kpzd wrote: You really think they did EVERYTHING right? You think initially lying to the community about the issue in the first place was right? Sorry if lying does matter to me. Sorry if someone outright lies to me (me as part of the community), I get offended and upset. I don't feel I deserve all information all the time. Hell, I don't feel I deserve to see all information EVER. But I don't feel I EVER deserve to be lied to, by a company/person/robot/politician/WHATEVER. If it comes into the limelight you did in fact lie to a mass, such as what happened here, I feel a response like this is extremely warranted by the community and I don't feel it's any negative will being exemplified because some "notable folk" having some other beef with them. I think we were fine with EG until we saw a bullshit excuse to pull iNcontroL from a show we love, and then get proof that we were right later. If you're fine to being lied to about any issue ever I feel really sorry for you, thankfully this community doesn't seem to enjoy it much. Once again I will broken record this: EG didn't lie about anything. They just didn't give you all the details. And guess what? They don't have to either. They told us the truth as far as we needed to know it and to think otherwise is yet again, spewing forth manufactured lies created by certain community members that already have an established bias against EG. In other words dude, with your line of absolute bullshit, you are towing someone elses agenda. What I'd like to see before people declare false information as fact is just some tiny effort on their part to even confirm the nonsense they continue to spout. For example, no one can seem to link me where Incontrol or JP said incontrol was leaving and money WAS NOT in any way a motivating factor. Hell they can't even link to a tangent source like scoots saying this. All we got was an image from scoots telling incontrol there is no problem with him being on SOTG as a guest. So guess what, all this outrage, this fake emo bravado, it's all an act...kind of like when an eight year old gets his favorite video game taken away, and as the act reaches its climax it becomes a temper tantrum. Fortunately though, the eight year old's temper tantrum doesn't have the ability to spread and financially harm companies. Your irresponsible spreading of deceit (crazily enough) does. | ||
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StarCraft64
United States354 Posts
On June 29 2011 21:32 Jadu wrote: For those who want the vod, it's still possible to watch the stream vod as the blip.tv vod isn't up yet. http://sv.justin.tv/onemoregametv/b/289071245 Thank you. Listening now. It's strange how the show turns out more or less the same when there's 2, 3, or 4 hosts. Great consistency I suppose. | ||
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MrBorto
United States17 Posts
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Hrwa
Croatia147 Posts
On June 29 2011 23:47 Sapphire.lux wrote: The romantic era of podcasts/ forum posts and people having a laugh is gone. It's all about the oil now Normal, and great that people in esports are more "legit" and financial responsible. Very, very sad on the other hand though. I miss SotG when they were just speaking their mind without political correctness BS and thousand caveats before every sentence ... | ||
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Sapphire.lux
Romania2620 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:24 Hrwa wrote: I miss SotG when they were just speaking their mind without political correctness BS and thousand caveats before every sentence ... Yep, that's what i meant by "the romantic era". I remember in one of the more recent SotG episodes when they were discussing the "political correctness" in simple posts on the forum and how some people are just interested in a prefabricated "image" then actual true representation of facts/ opinions. I remember LiquidTyler was absolutely gutted and i felt the exact same way. This is just one more reason why i love Team Liquid (the team/ management/ players/ forum) so much, and why i.......don't feel the same way for EG. TL fighting!  | ||
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MrDudeMan
Canada973 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:02 MrBorto wrote: This is just bad business. If you have a problem with the Complexity offer, make a counter offer don't steal the hosts and make a competing show. With Incontrol, Idra and the other hosts still on SOTG promoting onemoregame.tv the site would certainly have the added viewers today to more than make up for ITG. Did you even listen to the explanation? They did make a counter offer, it just didn't work out as they planned. | ||
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LagT_T
Argentina535 Posts
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Zauvryn
United States18 Posts
The vast majority of us enjoy the products both ItG and SotG, both DJWheat and JP, and we can't do that while they're struggling to put down the constant conspiracy theories and drama-mongering. | ||
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Tofugrinder
Austria899 Posts
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MrBorto
United States17 Posts
On June 30 2011 01:38 MrDudeMan wrote: Did you even listen to the explanation? They did make a counter offer, it just didn't work out as they planned. The counteroffer came with censoring and controlling the show, which is a power play and completely unreasonable. Once they found out SOTG was profitable every action by EG was hostile and business minded. I can think of numerous marketing opportunities EG has in the current environment they didn't need to dismantle SOTG to make more money. Most of their argument doesn't even make sense. Why did Idra participate in TSL3 when it's clearly sponsored by teamliquid? Who care's if a show is sponsored by soundblaster, having access to that audience with your people is still an infinitely better choice than what was done here. | ||
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TheFrankOne
United States667 Posts
On June 30 2011 02:45 MrBorto wrote: The counteroffer came with censoring and controlling the show, which is a power play and completely unreasonable. Once they found out SOTG was profitable every action by EG was hostile and business minded. I can think of numerous marketing opportunities EG has in the current environment they didn't need to dismantle SOTG to make more money. Most of their argument doesn't even make sense. Why did Idra participate in TSL3 when it's clearly sponsored by teamliquid? Who care's if a show is sponsored by soundblaster, having access to that audience with your people is still an infinitely better choice than what was done here. You are making a lot of unfounded claims, when did anyone say that they tried to censor and control the show? Tyler said that all sponsorship deals are not created equal which is true but we don't know enough to be making those sorts of judgements about censorship unless you have insider info which I doubt. Of course Idra competed in a tournament that has sponsorship conflicts between his teams sponsors and the tourney's sponsors, that's normal or else registering players for a tournament would be a nightmare, don't be ridiculous. Being on a talk show is different because Incontrol would not be competing as a player, he would just be on the show who would display their sponsors much more prominently than any shoutout would cover. Of course EG's sponsors didn't like this. EG seems to have made reasonable accommodations and may have omitted more than we would have liked in these discussions but it turns out so did JP. Sometimes things don't work out and I applaud EG for coming out and having a discussion on this. Having the Executive Director come out to directly address an issue is about as much as they can do. Not wanting to discuss what JP is doing with SotG because it is not their place is totally reasonable. JP not wanting to share every detail of things that may never happen is equally reasonable. Also you can in the future expect every action made by any company to be "business-minded," they are a business, you should keep that in mind. | ||
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