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Bayyne
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Crushinator
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matiK23
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:18 Crushinator wrote: Journalists do the things journalists do, the fact that this seems to be a problem just shows how undeveloped this industry is. If you don't want your information leaked, make sure your employees don't leak the information. Welcome to the real world, esports. Well, Alex posted on twitter I think? Somewhere he described that when there is a bidding war between teams for a player, the losing team knows that they didn't win and sometimes those people can leak stuff. So its not always the EG employees. I'm not arguing against your point, I'm just mentioning that sometimes, it's out of the organization's hands. | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
Slasher really is the only esports journalist there is at the moment. He is NOT a publicist for teams. Support Slasher 100%. | ||
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FollowKronborg
Finland21 Posts
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TFS
United States53 Posts
GG EG. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Slasher posting something like, EG Signing New player, exclusive interviews with the player and the CEO when it hits. Or Slasher posting EG sign Jaedong. I do think unexpected news is not very good because there is no build-up to it, one reason why Liquid.Snute's annoucement bombed. However, buildup like Acer did with MMA and Cella is really good, so teams should do more of that. | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:08 TotalBiscuit wrote: I have still yet to see a single benefit to press announcing something prior to a team. Whether or not you do or do not think "epic music" means anything isn't relevant, the press announcing it prior to the team does not benefit anybody but the site that does the announcing. There's no benefits either way except maybe for management if it helps them with sponsors. Beside that, the journalist wants to break the news just as much as the team wants to. I liked what you said earlier about leaking some information, but keeping the biggest stuff for the announcement. That's just smart, the journalist has enough to run with his story so he's not digging as much(sad, but that's how it works) and you get your bang. Just to take an example everybody will understand, how big would it be if the LA Galaxy announce a press conference and then David Beckham is there and they announce he just signed with the team. It would be insane. Thing is, media don't just show up to press conference for the fun of it and usually they announce the news and when the press conference will be. So you get your news in a timely manner and you get content at the press conference. Issue is we get the news early, but then where's the content? | ||
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marvin.
United States469 Posts
Edit - Did it have to do with JD to EG? | ||
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Superpower
Australia212 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:20 tshi wrote: Well, Alex posted on twitter I think? Somewhere he described that when there is a bidding war between teams for a player, the losing team knows that they didn't win and sometimes those people can leak stuff. So its not always the EG employees. I'm not arguing against your point, I'm just mentioning that sometimes, it's out of the organization's hands. Still, you don't leak the information it doesn't get out their, if Alex kept it to himself, nothing would have happened, if someone knows about your crush, no matter how much you trust them the info will be leaked sooner or later, if they don't the only way someone will find out is if you tell them. | ||
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Kammalleri
Canada613 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:29 TFS wrote: EG doesn't pay Slasher. Slasher owes them nothing. GG EG. It's not just about money or owing people something. It's a small business, there's no reason to just burn bridges for the hell of it. And I certainly hope that Slasher doesn't just break these news just to piss organizations off. The thing is we need journalism in SC2 and that's part of what they have to do. People said we need independent journalist, but it looks like what they really wanted is writers, people that will just take facts, put them one in front of the other and post it on a website. Oh hey there sponsor my player won and there's a nice article on it on this website, great eh? | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:37 marvin. wrote: Sorry guys, but I've been looking for a while and can't even figure out what Slasher leaked. If someone could give a TLDR or pm me with that info, that would be great. Edit - Did it have to do with JD to EG? That and Axiom signings and GSTL participation. And some other stuff too. Snute to Liquid. Etc. It's silly though, if you don't want to keep it a secret, don't tell anyone! Slasher's doing his job. Alex was being completely irrational and unprofessional. I don't understand the point of this was, to redeem EG's reputation for stupid announcements and tarnish Slashers? Because if it was it was a complete failiure. In my eyes Alex did nothing but embarrass himself and his organization. Come to terms with it, because as the scene grows so will journalism and so will leaks. It's part of the business. Deal with it like you do everything that is just part of the business, because it's not going anywhere. | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:20 matiK23 wrote: Alex complains about how esports isn't funded the same way real sports is, where esports is mostly funded by marketing and sponsors. Well if that money is so fragile, that information should be your top priority. Sorry, you have nobody to blame but yourself. Slasher was doing his job. Slasher is not only effectively damaging his career by stirring trouble with major esports organizations but hes damaging the vitality of the industry. If things like this get leaked out, sponsors don't make enough return so they pull funding. If sponsors pull funding, esports goes to shit and Slasher is out a job. He can do all the leaking he wants if esports in its current state was as economically healthy as other major sports but its not so there has to be some sort of code of conduct that he has to abide by in order to prevent crashing a sponsorship deal that would help make esports bigger and better. | ||
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Sabu113
United States11078 Posts
He was never going to set things afire. It would be like an announcement that Zenio got invited to the blizz cup as liquid's rep. Alex just seemed angry that Slasher acted like a journalist. Stupid fight for him to pick. His point about it doing damage is irrelevant. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:50 Sabu113 wrote: I think it's hard to say liquid snute's announcement died because of Slasher. I mean snute is another euro zerg who got hot during swarm season to contribute to liquids already large zerg lineup. He was never going to set things afire. It would be like an announcement that Zenio got invited to the blizz cup as liquid's rep. Alex just seemed angry that Slasher acted like a journalist. Stupid fight for him to pick. His point about it doing damage is irrelevant. Well I dont know if it's hard to say that the snute thing mattered because Alex mentioned that Nazgul was angry at him. How is it irrelevant? 'Cause he should have protected the info? What if it wasn't possible? I guess its someone else's fault that Slasher found out about it? So, either way, its not Slashers fault. Is that what you mean? like, that, at any point possible, it is not on Slasher because he is simply supposed to break the news? Everyone elses problems are not relevant? | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:50 Sabu113 wrote: I think it's hard to say liquid snute's announcement died because of Slasher. I mean snute is another euro zerg who got hot during swarm season to contribute to liquids already large zerg lineup. He was never going to set things afire. It would be like an announcement that Zenio got invited to the blizz cup as liquid's rep. Alex just seemed angry that Slasher acted like a journalist. Stupid fight for him to pick. His point about it doing damage is irrelevant. Its one thing to be a journalist for a major industry that doesn't live or die by sponsorship deals but esports is VERY FRAGILE. There has to be steps taken by journalists in esports to make sure they aren't threatening the health of the industry because of journalistic ideology. | ||
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Bart
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TheDougler
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proofy
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