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ThePlayer33
Australia2378 Posts
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Signus
United States269 Posts
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Kaitlin
United States2958 Posts
Also, what kind of an owner is Alex, if he invested so much into this "secret" announcement which he should have known was known to others ? I don't know if Slasher's source was within EG or not, but either way, it's either Alex's fault for not putting a lid on his own team, or for ignorantly assuming nobody else knew. If the players in question, who signed with EG, were talking to other teams about possibly joining them, then it's to be expected that other teams will also know. So these stupid announcements of announcements would have answered the other teams' question, if they didn't know it was EG. | ||
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TheDougler
Canada8324 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:59 TheDougler wrote: Where can I find the vod of this? Sounds interesting... Still wondering | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:00 proofy wrote: Slasher is doing his job and doing it well. Listening to Alex Garfield wanting to gather teams together for a media blackout is laughable. Just more idle threats similar to not sending players to Homestory Cup because of the whole Stephano/Xlord disconnect debacle. Slasher may have done his job but he didn't do it well. He pissed off EG and he caused damage to sponsorship deals in a fragile industry. | ||
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WardenSC
Canada210 Posts
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Revangale
United States7 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:10 BlackPanther wrote: Slasher may have done his job but he didn't do it well. He pissed off EG and he caused damage to sponsorship deals in a fragile industry. EG leaked the info already. They damaged themselves. Let say a person leaked/posted nude pics of themselves, then someone else uploaded. Is it logical for the person to have a bitch fit? Slasher doesn't need to do his job "well" as in making EG look good. He's not their publicist. If so, journalists shouldn't post anything that can harm BP or any of the big companies. Journalist should keep companies honest, not make them look good or bad. OBJECTIVITY. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
Type onemoregame on Twitch and it will be the 1st vod on the channel. | ||
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fire_brand
Canada1123 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:49 BlackPanther wrote: Slasher is not only effectively damaging his career by stirring trouble with major esports organizations but hes damaging the vitality of the industry. If things like this get leaked out, sponsors don't make enough return so they pull funding. If sponsors pull funding, esports goes to shit and Slasher is out a job. He can do all the leaking he wants if esports in its current state was as economically healthy as other major sports but its not so there has to be some sort of code of conduct that he has to abide by in order to prevent crashing a sponsorship deal that would help make esports bigger and better. Announcements getting out is not going to ruin funding and it's ridiculous to believe it would. Announcements that don't live up to the hype, or the failure of what they announce ruins funding. Plain and simple. Results, whether it be winning or popularity, warrant funding, not announcements. In EG's case just about every signing they've made has failed to deliver on the excitement and success promised. Is it any wonder that sponsors would begin to be more skeptical? | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:14 Revangale wrote: EG leaked the info already. They damaged themselves. Let say a person leaked/posted nude pics of themselves, then someone else uploaded. Is it logical for the person to have a bitch fit? Slasher doesn't need to do his job "well" as in making EG look good. He's not their publicist. If so, journalists shouldn't post anything that can harm BP or any of the big companies. Journalist should keep companies honest, not make them look good or bad. OBJECTIVITY. Slasher benefits when esports does well because its his job to report. In its current state, esports is very fragile and reporting leaked information won't benefit the industry as a whole and it won't benefit him. There is a HUGE difference between whistle blowing and just leaking information for the sake of leaking. Comparing EG to BP is just wrong because there is no wrong doing being done by EG. | ||
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chawinski
Australia99 Posts
Answered my own question. | ||
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Rezudox
207 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:19 chawinski wrote: When is this going to be uploaded? VOD / MP3 | ||
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jakek95
United Kingdom351 Posts
what point does it get too the good part? | ||
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BlackPanther
United States872 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:15 fire_brand wrote: Announcements getting out is not going to ruin funding and it's ridiculous to believe it would. Announcements that don't live up to the hype, or the failure of what they announce ruins funding. Plain and simple. Results, whether it be winning or popularity, warrant funding, not announcements. EG was tasked with driving ad views for their sponsors through the announcement. Since the announcement got leaked, there was less hype than anticipated when EG wanted to open the lid on it and thus there were not as many ad views as hoped. Thus sponsors get mad and reduce funding because EG didn't follow through. We can argue all day about whether EG should have kept a tighter lid on the announcement and I agree that they should have but the fact that slasher leaked it is what bothers me. He should have understood the risks that come with reporting information like this. | ||
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Hermasaurus
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On January 16 2013 16:38 Superpower wrote: Still, you don't leak the information it doesn't get out their, if Alex kept it to himself, nothing would have happened, if someone knows about your crush, no matter how much you trust them the info will be leaked sooner or later, if they don't the only way someone will find out is if you tell them. Re-read what he wrote. If you can't understand it I will simplify. He said when there are multiple teams trying to acquire a player through bids NOT ALL THE TEAMS CAN WIN. Therefore there are losers who are informed that obviously since they didn't get the player they deduct the such team must have acquired the player. Alex doesn't have to say a word if another team bidding at a player lost and since they lost they know who acquired the player and they leak the information to a journalist...It is so frustrating when people speak ignorantly because they are uninformed, can't or chose not to read, or are incapable of making deduction on their own. There are a pool of people involved in esports who for the most part are aware of things going around them whether it involves the directly or indirectly. Through this group of people the word spreads. Obviously someone leaked the information to Slasher. For instance when something goes on the pro community say with EG, Team Liquid knows about it. In short, it doesn't matter if the buyer of said player keeps his mouth shut, plenty of other people know about it. | ||
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On January 16 2013 16:27 dizzy101 wrote: The crew really piled it on Slasher this episide, I didn't like that at all. DJ Wheat in cahoots with the EG gang--where's the impartiality? They looked like angry parents trying to straighten out a disobedient kid. Frown and all. Slasher really is the only esports journalist there is at the moment. He is NOT a publicist for teams. Support Slasher 100%. he lost his impartiality a long time ago | ||
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naux
Canada738 Posts
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Vanadiel
France961 Posts
On January 16 2013 17:22 BlackPanther wrote: EG was tasked with driving ad views for their sponsors through the announcement. Since the announcement got leaked, there was less hype than anticipated when EG wanted to open the lid on it and thus there were not as many ad views as hoped. Thus sponsors get mad and reduce funding because EG didn't follow through. We can argue all day about whether EG should have kept a tighter lid on the announcement and I agree that they should have but the fact that slasher leaked it is what bothers me. He should have understood the risks that come with reporting information like this. It is not his job as a journalist to worry about the implication to EG. He had the information, he told it, end of story. If EG gambled this much on the annoucement and its failure causes some issue, it is their problem and their problem only, they did their jobs poorly and they should learn about their mistakes and not whining against Slasher. Between Slasher and Alex Garfield, only one of them did its job correctly. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
At a point he basically tells Slasher that he should take the offer he made him and have a few interviews outside of announcements,as compensation for not leaking information,or he would organize a witch hunt against him and try to get as many teams as possible to stop talking to him ever,like what in the actual fuck. Although Slasher is not the sharpest tool in the shed he obviously can recognize incredible passive aggressive behavior and retarded ultimatums.Like what was he supposed to say?"Oh yes mr Garfield,I'll gladly take your crumbs just so you can have your announcement." That's kinda something you do offscreen and not put a guy on the spot about something that is his job.You think it's smart for him to openly say on a talk to show that he will withhold information in the future just so you can have your shitty announcement? I'm actually glad TB came onto the show to save face of the owners because you just all made them look like giant douchebags for a moment there. I agree with TB that smaller teams suffer way more from this and obviously there needs to be some kind of consensus,but this Garfield outburst was just fucking lol. If people have this much of a problem with Slasher than the way to deal with it is contacting him directly and not bombard him with tweets from your little minions and call him out on a talk show,trying to get him to essentially sell out as a journalist publicly. Be happy while you actually have a single person that you can lash out on for something like this,because if suddenly more people start doing it what than?You're going to threaten every single site on the internet with not giving out information at all in the future?You're going to tell your players to not do interviews with those people. Fucking sad man,if you don't want something to get leaked than tie your shit together and start firing some people in your own house for it. Slasher your doing a good job man I'm sure you can figure out this thing on your own with the other teams,I'd just suggest that you move away from EG and let that bridge be burned down as Garfield says. | ||
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
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