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Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
October 24 2012 02:17 GMT
#5821
On October 24 2012 11:14 Kouda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.


Way to be sensationalist . lol.


Not sensationalizing, just saying what I overheard as I happened to turn into the morrow stream. He was ranting over some bullshit about what DJ wheat said and finished it off with a "suck my dick" as if he was talking to him. Pretty cowardly to insult somebody as if they were there, when they actually aren't, when you have a stream of people tuning in.
skeldark
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:28:18
October 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#5822
destiny normally talks a lot and only bullshit.
His thread did not get attention because of his person.
His person made the thread less good. When i read the post first time i agreed with most of it and was shocked when i saw who wrote it. However, he said what most people think and what is not picked up by many pros.
Perhaps you should have invited gretop not destiny to have this discussion.

Its not all about getting esport big for us. I dont care how much pro gamers make a month. I dont care how many views their stream has. I want an awesome rts to play.
You guys think sc2 community is the e-sport community but you are wrong.

This is the gamer community and esport is only a small and not the import part of it.
Esport dont define or feed the community. The gaming community feed esport!

Sc2 has big problems and even the last one is sick of waiting for blizzard.
And yes we have to wait because they are the only once who can fix the mayor problems.
We all know they will not fix it, so we all know they will not make it good.

So we are left with a decent game that could have been awesome. Thats the problem.
Not that its dont have micro-transitions. This are methods to get money out of your playerbase not to build up a playerbase!
The problem is not to get the "causal" in. If you make a good game you get many people. This "causal" argument is just a arrogant word to let other people think you are better than the majority and not only in playing the game.

If they fail to make a good game than no one is interested in the addon and the future. Not the "causal" and not the hardcore gamers.
Only because you played bw for 10 years and sc2 for 2 dont mean you have to stick with it.
People waiting for the awesome rts. We all hoped that sc2 will turn out to be it.
Sadly its time to realise we have a better chance waiting for an other company to develop an new rts than waiting for blizzard to relearn how to do it.
Save gaming: kill esport
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:19 GMT
#5823
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
October 24 2012 02:21 GMT
#5824
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k


Well I'll take DJwheat's word (as someone who actually works for the place) over some whiney kid on a video game forum.
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#5825
On October 24 2012 11:17 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:14 Kouda wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.


Way to be sensationalist . lol.


Not sensationalizing, just saying what I overheard as I happened to turn into the morrow stream. He was ranting over some bullshit about what DJ wheat said and finished it off with a "suck my dick" as if he was talking to him. Pretty cowardly to insult somebody as if they were there, when they actually aren't, when you have a stream of people tuning in.


It's pretty sensationalist. lol.

You seem pretty biased against Destiny. js. w/e. your opinion.
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#5826
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.


I wouldn't reply to him. He's just a giant troll judging from just this page alone xD.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#5827
On October 24 2012 11:09 TheSir wrote:
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On October 24 2012 11:00 Seldentar wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:51 JPSke wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:42 Shirohige wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:36 JPSke wrote:
I think it is complete bullshit that they are shitting on Destiny for trying to do something, anything to get Blizzard's attention when they acknowledge everything he said is a problem and yet Blizzard isn't making any more than token efforts to address them. Then they have the gall to mock the community's pitiful attempts to help things, tweeting, etc, as being ineffectual, when the same method they've been proclaiming to be "THE RIGHT WAY" has accomplished jack and shit itself. At some point, if you want to effect real change, maybe you have to make some waves. If no one with any real influence is gong to do anything about it I guess the community will just have to continue with the pitiful, ineffective methods you guys seem to take so much glee in making fun of.

I'm not even a Destiny fan but it's about time someone tried to get this community to try and do something about this, and it clearly isn't going to be the people on this show.

You are really not getting it at all. They are not shitting on him for trying to do something. They want to do something themselves. That's what they are all about, doing something. They just stated that yelling at Blizzard isn't the only and probably not the best way.

How can you not get that? They want to do something too, just like Destiny, but in another way.


Their way can only achieve modest success. Fixing the problems without Blizzard is like trying to come up with a more efficient way of cleaning up dog poop from your lawn rather than confronting your neighbor for taking his dogs into your yard to take a crap. It may make you feel better or achieve some minor improvement to the situation but unless you actually confront the people responsible you aren't really addressing the problem.

The choice is simple:

A) Make the best of the situation as is, try to make things better, hope Blizzard decides to make a change. Pretend the major issues impacting the community without Blizzard's direct intervention aren't as important as they really are.

B) Find a way to get Blizzard's attention.

If all the important people within the community have already decided on A then we're all wasting our time. Sure the game can survive as it is, but it can't thrive, and if Blizzard isn't going to take any action does it really deserve all the time and effort people are putting into it?


Very well said, quoted for truth.


No not very well said cause it's not our (as a community) responsibility or job to fix Blizzards problems. You cant, but what you can do is improve the hole SC2 world, cause there's still a lot to improve. And yeah you can give feedback to Blizzard and bitch and maybe they do something about it but it's not the only way to improve SC2.

And this hole 'SC2 is dead' crap is just bullshit and im done with it.


I quoted the wrong guy... I meant to quote the following guy (see my next post)...
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#5828
There are more eyes in total. But less of them are watching Idra. However they (those eyes) are still there to be swayed to watch idra.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
October 24 2012 02:22 GMT
#5829
On October 24 2012 11:21 Leth0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k


Well I'll take DJwheat's word (as someone who actually works for the place) over some whiney kid on a video game forum.

No way bro!
And watching Destinys stream right now lowers even my opinion about desrow ... not to mention destiny.
www.twitch.tv/bluquh (PoE, Starbow, HS)
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 24 2012 02:23 GMT
#5830
On October 24 2012 11:13 colossusFTW wrote:
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On October 24 2012 11:11 VanGarde wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2

Yeah you are right, wheat raising is voice is childish. If everyone was like destiny and spammed bm in capslock every time he loses a game and puts all of his debate energy into just spamming out words to drown out what everyone else is saying. Also, all of you who are just seemingly convinced 100% that sc2 is dead feel the necessity to keep jerking off to your own conviction on these forums? It is like when people who are convinced that the world is going to end just feel the need to gleefully rub that into everyones face as if they are just dying for it to happen. If you are already so convinced, shut the fuck up and come back in a year to say I told you so or admit you were wrong. It is just pathetic.

You mad bro ?

Thank you for summarizing the intellectual capacity of the vast majority of the negativity trolls who post here.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
October 24 2012 02:23 GMT
#5831
On October 24 2012 10:56 OblivionMage wrote:
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On October 24 2012 10:46 IdrA wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:36 OblivionMage wrote:
Amazing that incontrol and idra said they've given up on Blizzard doing anything while admitting that SC2 viewers are down while LoL viewers are (way) up (and that total viewers are up (like that means anything at all)). They're saying that SC2 is totally doomed unless HotS does something to stop the viewer bleed. Then, they berate Destiny for 'going all-in on Blizzard', and for 'being negative' (yeah, they're being totally positive, guys).

Are they completely retarded? At least Destiny is trying to change something instead of sitting on his EG salary bragging about getting a raise while bragging about his 'debate background'. Unbelievable behavior from Incontrol, I held him in higher regard.

Painuser was reasonable, as always, and djWHEAT was too emotionally invested to really say much.

hes advocating doing the same thing we've been doing for the last two years, just being a lot more bombastic and obnoxious about it. hes not trying to change anything. he just wants attention.


To be honest, as someone who was writing posts about how shit Blizzard was two years ago, I feel like the only thing that will change their path is poor HotS sales. These forum posts are probably as futile as anything has ever been.

If you look at Starcraft 2 from a business perspective, they haven't had a gauge on their success since initial release. Maybe there have been less people playing in league games, but will that rebound during HotS (like it does whenever they release a new Call of Duty game)? I think it's out of our control entirely (its' very difficult to say how well HotS will sell from our current perspective at TL), and we'll just have to wait and see.


Quoted for truth
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:23 GMT
#5832
What you think their going to tell us the truth that sc2 is dying so they can loose MORE viewership? Obviously their not going to tell us that sc2 is dying because they dont wanna loose what little is left.
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
October 24 2012 02:24 GMT
#5833
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k


he even had over 20k at some points.
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 24 2012 02:24 GMT
#5834
On October 24 2012 11:23 colossusFTW wrote:
What you think their going to tell us the truth that sc2 is dying so they can loose MORE viewership? Obviously their not going to tell us that sc2 is dying because they dont wanna loose what little is left.

It's all a conspiracy! Run for the hills! Really I think it is time we implement an intelligence test to create an account on TL.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 24 2012 02:25 GMT
#5835
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k

REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS A DAY AND ONLY STREAMED LIKE ONCE EVERY THREE MONTHS?! And was the top foreigner in the world. And there wasn't this guy named Stephano. And so many other factors.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 24 2012 02:25 GMT
#5836
On October 24 2012 11:24 kinglemon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k


he even had over 20k at some points.

Yeah, back in beta when there were not 10 tournaments running every week and a multitude of people streaming, not to mention that most people couldn't play themselves at that point. There are no less sc2 fans, there is just way more possibility these days to pick the tournaments that fit your schedule and there are more streamers.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:26 GMT
#5837
On October 24 2012 11:24 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:23 colossusFTW wrote:
What you think their going to tell us the truth that sc2 is dying so they can loose MORE viewership? Obviously their not going to tell us that sc2 is dying because they dont wanna loose what little is left.

It's all a conspiracy! Run for the hills! Really I think it is time we implement an intelligence test to create an account on TL.

Because we have different opinions i'm Not intelligent? standard incontrol statement
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
mjnbowlgod
Profile Joined March 2011
198 Posts
October 24 2012 02:26 GMT
#5838
On October 24 2012 11:19 skeldark wrote:
destiny normally talks a lot and only bullshit.
His thread did not get attention because of his person.
His person made the thread less good. When i read the post first time i agreed with most of it and was shocked when i saw who wrote it. However, he said what most people think and what is not picked up by many pros.
Perhaps you should have invited gretop not destiny to have this discussion.

Its not all about getting esport big for us. I dont care how much pro gamers make a month. I dont care how many views their stream has. I want an awesome rts to play.
You guys think sc2 community is the e-sport community but you are wrong.

This is the gamer community and esport is only a small and not the import part of it.
Esport dont define or feed the community. The gaming community feed esport!

Sc2 has big problems and even the last one is sick of waiting for blizzard.
And yes we have to wait because they are the only once who can fix the mayor problems.
We all know they will not fix it, so we all know they will not make it good.

So we are left with a decent game that could have been awesome. Thats the problem.
Not that its not free or dont have micro-transitions. This are methods to get money out of your playerbase not to build up a playerbase!
The problem is not to get the "causal" in. If you make a good game you get many people. This "causal" argument is just a arrogant word to let other people think you are better than the majority and not only in playing the game.

If they fail to make a good game than no one is interested in the addon and the future. Not the "causal" and not the hardcore gamers.
Only because you played bw for 10 years and sc2 for 2 dont mean you have to stick with it.
People waiting for the awesome rts. We all hoped that sc2 will turn out to be it.
Sadly its time to realise we have a better chance waiting for an other company to develop an new rts than waiting for blizzard to relearn how to do it.


Your talking for all of us as if your sure whats best, I dont care about your deluded post
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:27:26
October 24 2012 02:26 GMT
#5839
On October 24 2012 11:25 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:24 kinglemon wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:19 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:15 Leth0 wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.

im just saying it's irrelevant dj wheat saying numbers are up on twitch. Im saying numbers are up on twitch because of LoL. REMEMBER WHEN IDRA GOT 8-10 K VIEWERS ADAY? now he gets barely 3 k


he even had over 20k at some points.

Yeah, back in beta when there were not 10 tournaments running every week and a multitude of people streaming, not to mention that most people couldn't play themselves at that point. There are no less sc2 fans, there is just way more possibility these days to pick the tournaments that fit your schedule and there are more streamers.


not in beta, last year.
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
October 24 2012 02:27 GMT
#5840
On October 24 2012 11:23 colossusFTW wrote:
What you think their going to tell us the truth that sc2 is dying so they can loose MORE viewership? Obviously their not going to tell us that sc2 is dying because they dont wanna loose what little is left.


you silly boy deserve a long trip to Disneyland
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