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tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
October 24 2012 02:04 GMT
#5801
On an aside, I wonder how many people were disappointed that they didn't get to talk about the SlayerS drama that happened?
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:04 GMT
#5802
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
Chytilova
Profile Joined December 2011
United States790 Posts
October 24 2012 02:06 GMT
#5803
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2


lol what? Where are you getting this?
Seldentar
Profile Joined May 2011
United States888 Posts
October 24 2012 02:06 GMT
#5804
On October 24 2012 10:56 OblivionMage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:46 IdrA wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:36 OblivionMage wrote:
Amazing that incontrol and idra said they've given up on Blizzard doing anything while admitting that SC2 viewers are down while LoL viewers are (way) up (and that total viewers are up (like that means anything at all)). They're saying that SC2 is totally doomed unless HotS does something to stop the viewer bleed. Then, they berate Destiny for 'going all-in on Blizzard', and for 'being negative' (yeah, they're being totally positive, guys).

Are they completely retarded? At least Destiny is trying to change something instead of sitting on his EG salary bragging about getting a raise while bragging about his 'debate background'. Unbelievable behavior from Incontrol, I held him in higher regard.

Painuser was reasonable, as always, and djWHEAT was too emotionally invested to really say much.

hes advocating doing the same thing we've been doing for the last two years, just being a lot more bombastic and obnoxious about it. hes not trying to change anything. he just wants attention.


To be honest, as someone who was writing posts about how shit Blizzard was two years ago, I feel like the only thing that will change their path is poor HotS sales. These forum posts are probably as futile as anything has ever been.

If you look at Starcraft 2 from a business perspective, they haven't had a gauge on their success since initial release. Maybe there have been less people playing in league games, but will that rebound during HotS (like it does whenever they release a new Call of Duty game)? I think it's out of our control entirely (its' very difficult to say how well HotS will sell from our current perspective at TL), and we'll just have to wait and see.


Yep, as Painuser said (but flew over EVERYONE's mind) this discussion should end now and be resumed after the release of HotS when we actually have legitimate data with which to measure the current state/success of SC2.

Blizzard needs to see the value of improving SC2 as well as its standing in E-Sports. If this is achieved, the sky is the limit. IMO their heart isn't in it at the moment. I almost get the impression they hardly care even if this isn't the case.
neurosx
Profile Joined August 2011
Luxembourg1096 Posts
October 24 2012 02:06 GMT
#5805
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2


Oh yeah cause it definitely wasn't destiny that triggered all of that right.
You'll wish I'd never stooped to notice you.
SpaceFighting
Profile Joined January 2010
New Zealand690 Posts
October 24 2012 02:07 GMT
#5806
YOOOOO esports becoming more like FGC? lets fkin go!
kuz pro
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:08 GMT
#5807
On October 24 2012 11:06 neurosx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2


Oh yeah cause it definitely wasn't destiny that triggered all of that right.

incontrol started yelling and bashing destiny before he got in and as soon as he got in wtf are you talking about
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
tshi
Profile Joined September 2012
United States2495 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:09:20
October 24 2012 02:09 GMT
#5808
On October 24 2012 11:07 SpaceFighting wrote:
YOOOOO esports becoming more like FGC? lets fkin go!

LOL, not enough cussing or popping off in someone's face for that, I think.
scrub - inexperienced player with relatively little skill and excessive arrogance
TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:10:10
October 24 2012 02:09 GMT
#5809
On October 24 2012 11:00 Seldentar wrote:
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On October 24 2012 10:51 JPSke wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:42 Shirohige wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:36 JPSke wrote:
I think it is complete bullshit that they are shitting on Destiny for trying to do something, anything to get Blizzard's attention when they acknowledge everything he said is a problem and yet Blizzard isn't making any more than token efforts to address them. Then they have the gall to mock the community's pitiful attempts to help things, tweeting, etc, as being ineffectual, when the same method they've been proclaiming to be "THE RIGHT WAY" has accomplished jack and shit itself. At some point, if you want to effect real change, maybe you have to make some waves. If no one with any real influence is gong to do anything about it I guess the community will just have to continue with the pitiful, ineffective methods you guys seem to take so much glee in making fun of.

I'm not even a Destiny fan but it's about time someone tried to get this community to try and do something about this, and it clearly isn't going to be the people on this show.

You are really not getting it at all. They are not shitting on him for trying to do something. They want to do something themselves. That's what they are all about, doing something. They just stated that yelling at Blizzard isn't the only and probably not the best way.

How can you not get that? They want to do something too, just like Destiny, but in another way.


Their way can only achieve modest success. Fixing the problems without Blizzard is like trying to come up with a more efficient way of cleaning up dog poop from your lawn rather than confronting your neighbor for taking his dogs into your yard to take a crap. It may make you feel better or achieve some minor improvement to the situation but unless you actually confront the people responsible you aren't really addressing the problem.

The choice is simple:

A) Make the best of the situation as is, try to make things better, hope Blizzard decides to make a change. Pretend the major issues impacting the community without Blizzard's direct intervention aren't as important as they really are.

B) Find a way to get Blizzard's attention.

If all the important people within the community have already decided on A then we're all wasting our time. Sure the game can survive as it is, but it can't thrive, and if Blizzard isn't going to take any action does it really deserve all the time and effort people are putting into it?


Very well said, quoted for truth.


No not very well said cause it's not our (as a community) responsibility or job to fix Blizzards problems. You cant, but what you can do is improve the hole SC2 world, cause there's still a lot to improve. And yeah you can give feedback to Blizzard and bitch and maybe they do something about it but it's not the only way to improve SC2.

And this hole 'SC2 is dead' crap is just bullshit and im done with it.
Aulisemia
Profile Joined August 2011
United States123 Posts
October 24 2012 02:09 GMT
#5810
Wheat, it might be a "pussy coward' way for him to leave, but you're the one that invited him on knowing full well how it would turn out. I think we as adults know that you're ultimately responsible for your own actions and I'd like to have seen you handle things a little better.
The ponciest ponce that ever ponced past a poncing palour.
PickleWeasel
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia41 Posts
October 24 2012 02:10 GMT
#5811
So embarrassing, can't believe these people represent SC2. Had good points but they all (other than Painuser) have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old and can't have a calm and constructive conversation. If this is how the conversations go about for improving SC2, it really will go to shit. Grow up and leave your personal grudges at the door, eSports doesn't need this shit.
kinglemon
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany199 Posts
October 24 2012 02:10 GMT
#5812
and one thing incontrol said was also quite wrong:
he said no one of the fun map casual players in broodwar watched the tournaments.
well, you think the millions in korea that watched the games on a daily basis were all 1v1 competitive players ?
no they weren't.
most of them played starcraft for fun with their friends in the pc bangs, by playing team games and fun maps.

morrow also said that he didn't played competitive for years in broodwars, he just was having some fun.
there are probably a lot of morrows out there that we miss out because they don't get that entry drug in sc2.

and if i think about it, i haven't seen one new good terran player outside of korea that wasn't already a top player in 2010.
the scene is extremely stale because we don't get new blood.
and without new blood it will die.

VanGarde
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden755 Posts
October 24 2012 02:11 GMT
#5813
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2

Yeah you are right, wheat raising is voice is childish. If everyone was like destiny and spammed bm in capslock every time he loses a game and puts all of his debate energy into just spamming out words to drown out what everyone else is saying. Also, all of you who are just seemingly convinced 100% that sc2 is dead feel the necessity to keep jerking off to your own conviction on these forums? It is like when people who are convinced that the world is going to end just feel the need to gleefully rub that into everyones face as if they are just dying for it to happen. If you are already so convinced, shut the fuck up and come back in a year to say I told you so or admit you were wrong. It is just pathetic.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:13:52
October 24 2012 02:12 GMT
#5814
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:13 GMT
#5815
On October 24 2012 11:11 VanGarde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:04 colossusFTW wrote:
On October 24 2012 10:52 Netsky wrote:
DJ Wheat inviting Destiny on Inside the Game to talk about SC2 and Blizzard was about as constructive as JP McDaniels inviting Avilo on State of the Game to talk about Terran and balance.


EGincontrol typical desperate cry for attention I think I'm funny everybody look at me ! DJwheat really lost my respect this episode childish and insecure because he knows what is coming its fine destiny can go switch to dota 2 and Idra and Incontrol can stay on the sinking ship that is sc2

Yeah you are right, wheat raising is voice is childish. If everyone was like destiny and spammed bm in capslock every time he loses a game and puts all of his debate energy into just spamming out words to drown out what everyone else is saying. Also, all of you who are just seemingly convinced 100% that sc2 is dead feel the necessity to keep jerking off to your own conviction on these forums? It is like when people who are convinced that the world is going to end just feel the need to gleefully rub that into everyones face as if they are just dying for it to happen. If you are already so convinced, shut the fuck up and come back in a year to say I told you so or admit you were wrong. It is just pathetic.

You mad bro ?
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:14 GMT
#5816
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
October 24 2012 02:14 GMT
#5817
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.


Way to be sensationalist . lol.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-24 02:15:59
October 24 2012 02:15 GMT
#5818
On October 24 2012 11:14 colossusFTW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

viewers are up for twitch because LoL came into the picture


Viewers are up because all the games. What is with this idea that LoL is the only thing that matters? It's cool that you like LoL but don't be fucking ignorant.

The NFL isn't going anywhere just because soccer is the largest sport on the globe.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
October 24 2012 02:16 GMT
#5819
On October 24 2012 11:07 SpaceFighting wrote:
YOOOOO esports becoming more like FGC? lets fkin go!

I doubt any of them have the gonzos to go that far.
colossusFTW
Profile Joined September 2012
United States45 Posts
October 24 2012 02:17 GMT
#5820
On October 24 2012 11:12 Leth0 wrote:
Destiny having a fucking meltdown on his stream. Yelling at a DJwheat (that is not there) to suck his dick over the fact that DJwheat actually works for Twitch and can easily see that their viewer numbers (for everything) is on the rise.

To be clear, I'm not even watching his stream, I was tuned into the morrow stream and overhear his petty whiney bullshit.

incontrol has a mental meltdown every state of the game and inside the game Its amusing to watch people like incontrol, djwheat, and idra go full retard on stream
you gotta risk it to get the biscuit
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