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Lewan72
Profile Joined April 2011
United States381 Posts
January 04 2012 00:19 GMT
#3301
HURRY UP STATE OF THE GAME I'VE BEEN REFRESHING MY PAGE FOR 20MINUTES
MC / Hero / MMA / Bomber / Coca / Suppy
Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
January 04 2012 00:21 GMT
#3302
On January 04 2012 09:19 Lewan72 wrote:
HURRY UP STATE OF THE GAME I'VE BEEN REFRESHING MY PAGE FOR 20MINUTES


I giggled
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
January 04 2012 00:26 GMT
#3303
Wait, so this episode will have nothing to do with Starcraft?
All your teeth should fall out and hair should grow in their place!
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
January 04 2012 00:30 GMT
#3304
On January 04 2012 09:26 AndAgain wrote:
Wait, so this episode will have nothing to do with Starcraft?

Hopefully Greg comes on when he's not too tired. T_T
Get crunk
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
January 04 2012 00:31 GMT
#3305
Who needs IdrA when there's Miniwheat!
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Mrvoodoochild1
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1439 Posts
January 04 2012 00:31 GMT
#3306
On January 04 2012 09:30 KvltMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 09:26 AndAgain wrote:
Wait, so this episode will have nothing to do with Starcraft?

Hopefully Greg comes on when he's not too tired. T_T

Wheat said Idra will not be on the show T.T, i wanted to see Greg coach wheat so bad.
"let your freak flag fly"
Malgrif
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1095 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 00:50:41
January 04 2012 00:50 GMT
#3307
1500 people watching someone play arkham city. i wish i was that popular
for there to be pro there has to be noob.
TheTofuShop
Profile Joined April 2010
United States57 Posts
January 04 2012 02:36 GMT
#3308
ITG 27 is great, hearing djWheat explain "poison," "hacking," and other fun words to miniWheat is hilarious.

Keep up the good work Wheat, hopefully you'll have everyone together next week for some SC2 discussion. <3
My life for Aiur
ZergX
Profile Joined October 2010
France436 Posts
January 04 2012 14:29 GMT
#3309
Yay mp3's !
Nestea fightingg ! DRG fightingggg !! Sen fightinggg ! July fighting ! SoO fighting !
SopJanne
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden5 Posts
January 10 2012 20:00 GMT
#3310
does anyone know if it's on tonight?
Deleted User 176289
Profile Joined April 2011
169 Posts
January 10 2012 20:18 GMT
#3311
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CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-10 22:39:45
January 10 2012 22:39 GMT
#3312
The problem with inside the game is it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

"Day[9]'s Daily is a huge inspiration for the show. There's simply not enough content out there that is aiming to help gamers improve. Our goal is to provide another outlet for education while maintaining the same level of entertainment every OneMoreGame.tv show provides."

From which I gathered given the profession of 3 of the hosts that the show was supposed to be about helping Starcraft 2 players improve their ability to play Starcraft 2. So excuse me if I'm missing something but I don't understand how discussing tournament results or the state of the esports industry helps me to improve my PvZ match up. This is why I've stopped watching inside the game, it's essentially become a second rate state of the game, and i mean no disrespect by that but state of the game simply does what it does better. The amount of times I've been listening to SotG and heard Incontrol say "well it's just like i said earlier on inside the game" because the two shows have the exact same topics for discussion.

I'd love to have inside the game be a more educational, day9 daily-esque style analysis and tutorial show. I'm sure Incontrol, idra and painuser have plenty of great insight and analysis to share and with Dj wheat hosting I'm also sure it would be entertaining. I'd love to see you just talk about a match you've seen in a real level of depth, like what the players did right, what they did wrong what you would of done in that situation etc or if that's too specific just talk about a match up and how it functions in the current metgame. I'm willing to bet a shiny penny that i'm not the only wone who would want to watch this kind of content every week so please guys take a look at the at the original idea behind the inside the game and give us some more of that style of content!
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
January 11 2012 00:07 GMT
#3313
GosuCoachings podcast was probably closer to what you're looking for. They're pretty out of date now and they stopped doing them but they're still kind of interesting.

http://gosucoaching.com/category/categories/podcast
CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
January 11 2012 12:12 GMT
#3314
On January 11 2012 09:07 FreudianTrip wrote:
GosuCoachings podcast was probably closer to what you're looking for. They're pretty out of date now and they stopped doing them but they're still kind of interesting.

http://gosucoaching.com/category/categories/podcast

Thanks, never seen those before. I still think there's room for inside the game in the educational starcraft 2 content market.
Dhinanta
Profile Joined December 2010
United States50 Posts
January 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#3315
On January 11 2012 07:39 CallousCarter wrote:
The problem with inside the game is it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

"Day[9]'s Daily is a huge inspiration for the show. There's simply not enough content out there that is aiming to help gamers improve. Our goal is to provide another outlet for education while maintaining the same level of entertainment every OneMoreGame.tv show provides."

From which I gathered given the profession of 3 of the hosts that the show was supposed to be about helping Starcraft 2 players improve their ability to play Starcraft 2. So excuse me if I'm missing something but I don't understand how discussing tournament results or the state of the esports industry helps me to improve my PvZ match up. This is why I've stopped watching inside the game, it's essentially become a second rate state of the game, and i mean no disrespect by that but state of the game simply does what it does better. The amount of times I've been listening to SotG and heard Incontrol say "well it's just like i said earlier on inside the game" because the two shows have the exact same topics for discussion.

I'd love to have inside the game be a more educational, day9 daily-esque style analysis and tutorial show. I'm sure Incontrol, idra and painuser have plenty of great insight and analysis to share and with Dj wheat hosting I'm also sure it would be entertaining. I'd love to see you just talk about a match you've seen in a real level of depth, like what the players did right, what they did wrong what you would of done in that situation etc or if that's too specific just talk about a match up and how it functions in the current metgame. I'm willing to bet a shiny penny that i'm not the only wone who would want to watch this kind of content every week so please guys take a look at the at the original idea behind the inside the game and give us some more of that style of content!


I think this was the original intent, but we (the audience as a whole) are the ones who call in and ask about drama. Every week there are ~2-4 calls about playing the game. Almost everything else is something peripheral. If you want there to be more in-game related content, call in and ask those questions I've never seen them give anything but thorough responses.
CallousCarter
Profile Joined December 2011
United Kingdom81 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 23:01:47
January 12 2012 22:59 GMT
#3316
On January 13 2012 04:05 Dhinanta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:39 CallousCarter wrote:
The problem with inside the game is it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

"Day[9]'s Daily is a huge inspiration for the show. There's simply not enough content out there that is aiming to help gamers improve. Our goal is to provide another outlet for education while maintaining the same level of entertainment every OneMoreGame.tv show provides."

From which I gathered given the profession of 3 of the hosts that the show was supposed to be about helping Starcraft 2 players improve their ability to play Starcraft 2. So excuse me if I'm missing something but I don't understand how discussing tournament results or the state of the esports industry helps me to improve my PvZ match up. This is why I've stopped watching inside the game, it's essentially become a second rate state of the game, and i mean no disrespect by that but state of the game simply does what it does better. The amount of times I've been listening to SotG and heard Incontrol say "well it's just like i said earlier on inside the game" because the two shows have the exact same topics for discussion.

I'd love to have inside the game be a more educational, day9 daily-esque style analysis and tutorial show. I'm sure Incontrol, idra and painuser have plenty of great insight and analysis to share and with Dj wheat hosting I'm also sure it would be entertaining. I'd love to see you just talk about a match you've seen in a real level of depth, like what the players did right, what they did wrong what you would of done in that situation etc or if that's too specific just talk about a match up and how it functions in the current metgame. I'm willing to bet a shiny penny that i'm not the only wone who would want to watch this kind of content every week so please guys take a look at the at the original idea behind the inside the game and give us some more of that style of content!


I think this was the original intent, but we (the audience as a whole) are the ones who call in and ask about drama. Every week there are ~2-4 calls about playing the game. Almost everything else is something peripheral. If you want there to be more in-game related content, call in and ask those questions I've never seen them give anything but thorough responses.


True but they also spend the first hour of the show discussing the weekly drama or stirring one up. Surely I can't be the only one interested in starcraft 2 educational content. I mean the day9 daily is good but I'd also like to hear more of the opinion of the pros/casters on what they think about matchups and strategies.
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
January 12 2012 23:05 GMT
#3317
On January 13 2012 07:59 CallousCarter wrote:

True but they also spend the first hour of the show discussing the weekly drama or stirring one up. Surely I can't be the only one interested in starcraft 2 educational content. I mean the day9 daily is good but I'd also like to hear more of the opinion of the pros/casters on what they think about matchups and strategies.


the problem is that there isn't a lot to talk about on that front. There is not a lot of new metagame or strategy. Sure, they could re-hash textbook sc2 stuff that everyone should know, have idra talk about how to defend 2rax or incontrol talk about 6gate variations, but it wouldn't be anything that hasn't been done to death elsewhere, right?


I too wish there was a magical show that provided me all the answers, but honestly the best way to get better at SC2 is to turn off your TV and play the damn game.
Xirroh
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada146 Posts
January 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#3318
On January 11 2012 07:39 CallousCarter wrote:
The problem with inside the game is it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

"Day[9]'s Daily is a huge inspiration for the show. There's simply not enough content out there that is aiming to help gamers improve. Our goal is to provide another outlet for education while maintaining the same level of entertainment every OneMoreGame.tv show provides."

From which I gathered given the profession of 3 of the hosts that the show was supposed to be about helping Starcraft 2 players improve their ability to play Starcraft 2. So excuse me if I'm missing something but I don't understand how discussing tournament results or the state of the esports industry helps me to improve my PvZ match up. This is why I've stopped watching inside the game, it's essentially become a second rate state of the game, and i mean no disrespect by that but state of the game simply does what it does better. The amount of times I've been listening to SotG and heard Incontrol say "well it's just like i said earlier on inside the game" because the two shows have the exact same topics for discussion.

I'd love to have inside the game be a more educational, day9 daily-esque style analysis and tutorial show. I'm sure Incontrol, idra and painuser have plenty of great insight and analysis to share and with Dj wheat hosting I'm also sure it would be entertaining. I'd love to see you just talk about a match you've seen in a real level of depth, like what the players did right, what they did wrong what you would of done in that situation etc or if that's too specific just talk about a match up and how it functions in the current metgame. I'm willing to bet a shiny penny that i'm not the only wone who would want to watch this kind of content every week so please guys take a look at the at the original idea behind the inside the game and give us some more of that style of content!


This is exactly why I started watching the show and why I stopped. They stopped talking about strategy and started talking about drama BS. Yes SotG does that better. But SotG also (occasionally) has real pro level conversation about strategy (usually only by accident). Recently there was a long talk with Artosis trying to defend Mech in TvP vs iNc and Tyler. That was actually interesting. Eventually JP cuts this sort of thing off to get back to the 'real show'.

I completely agree. Too many tournament /drama shows, not enough meaningful content. It's not hard. Just pick a decent TL strategy forum topic and talk about it. Even explaining in detail why the posters strategy is terrible could be very insightful.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
January 13 2012 23:25 GMT
#3319
On January 13 2012 08:11 Xirroh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 11 2012 07:39 CallousCarter wrote:
The problem with inside the game is it doesn't do what it says on the tin.

"Day[9]'s Daily is a huge inspiration for the show. There's simply not enough content out there that is aiming to help gamers improve. Our goal is to provide another outlet for education while maintaining the same level of entertainment every OneMoreGame.tv show provides."

From which I gathered given the profession of 3 of the hosts that the show was supposed to be about helping Starcraft 2 players improve their ability to play Starcraft 2. So excuse me if I'm missing something but I don't understand how discussing tournament results or the state of the esports industry helps me to improve my PvZ match up. This is why I've stopped watching inside the game, it's essentially become a second rate state of the game, and i mean no disrespect by that but state of the game simply does what it does better. The amount of times I've been listening to SotG and heard Incontrol say "well it's just like i said earlier on inside the game" because the two shows have the exact same topics for discussion.

I'd love to have inside the game be a more educational, day9 daily-esque style analysis and tutorial show. I'm sure Incontrol, idra and painuser have plenty of great insight and analysis to share and with Dj wheat hosting I'm also sure it would be entertaining. I'd love to see you just talk about a match you've seen in a real level of depth, like what the players did right, what they did wrong what you would of done in that situation etc or if that's too specific just talk about a match up and how it functions in the current metgame. I'm willing to bet a shiny penny that i'm not the only wone who would want to watch this kind of content every week so please guys take a look at the at the original idea behind the inside the game and give us some more of that style of content!


This is exactly why I started watching the show and why I stopped. They stopped talking about strategy and started talking about drama BS. Yes SotG does that better. But SotG also (occasionally) has real pro level conversation about strategy (usually only by accident). Recently there was a long talk with Artosis trying to defend Mech in TvP vs iNc and Tyler. That was actually interesting. Eventually JP cuts this sort of thing off to get back to the 'real show'.

I completely agree. Too many tournament /drama shows, not enough meaningful content. It's not hard. Just pick a decent TL strategy forum topic and talk about it. Even explaining in detail why the posters strategy is terrible could be very insightful.


i'm glad people are starting to voice this concern more often. i continue to watch the show every week but it becomes less interesting every time because it degenerates into talking about casting and how to get better at casting and why X caster is better than Y caster, or why this tournament sucked at accommodating the players.

what i really want to hear about is recent tournament results and what players are playing smart and what makes their play smart. ITG has access to a cast of extremely high level players and it's a powerful resource at their disposal and one of the reasons why we watch, however there is minimal to no strategy talk, especially in the last three episodes.
The Show of a Lifetime
integrity
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1014 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 14:23:09
January 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#3320
WHEAT!!!!!!!!!!!

is there gonna be a show today?
it feels like there hasnt been one in months.
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