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On May 15 2011 03:44 Zerksys wrote:
Roach: I would like to see this unit just removed or seriously reworked. The burrow movement sees no use other than an escape mechanism from being locked down by force fields or to go under force fields. Burrow regeneration doesn't really have that big of an impact on large battles and the only time burrow regen matters is when detection is not available. It also suffers hugely from the 1a syndrome. It's also 2 supply and tanky making it more like a protoss or a terran unit than a zerg unit.
This 100x over.
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They were saying that mostly single player will be discussed so don't know how much info will be revealed about multiplayer. The SP additions could shed light on some MP possibilities but that is some big speculation because WoT has a ton of units not in MP.
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On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL).
So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion?
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On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion?
You need to Own WOL before you can install HOTS
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Aww, nothing about multiplayer. That's what I'd be getting HotS for anyway.
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On May 19 2011 22:47 frontliner2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion? You need to Own WOL before you can install HOTS
Has this been 100% confirmed yet? I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as an "expansion" but also a standalone.
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What I was wondering for quite some time and maybe it has already been discussed somewhere else: If the SC2 editor is really that powerful, then it should be no problem to include possible new multiplayer units of HotS in WoL custom maps.
The only arguments for buying HotS should therefore be ladder and campaign (where a custom ladder could possible be added as discussed on some threads before)
Am I missing something?
Edit: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=181533 customladder idea
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On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion?
Don't be surprised if it's another $60. The Blizzard of 2011 is not the Blizzard you used to know.
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On May 19 2011 22:49 aksfjh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:47 frontliner2 wrote:On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion? You need to Own WOL before you can install HOTS Has this been 100% confirmed yet? I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as an "expansion" but also a standalone.
I wouldn't exactly be surprised either. It seems like that's becoming more and more common method in the game industry, because shrinking your potential buyer base from 'everyone' to 'only people who own the original' is pretty dumb, even if it does move a few more copies of the original, I doubt it's worth the cost of eliminating most of your potential buyers.
I can see people being pretty upset about it though.
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On May 19 2011 22:52 Sueco wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion? Don't be surprised if it's another $60. The Blizzard of 2011 is not the Blizzard you used to know.
seriously. it's just not the same company anymore. bnet2.0 was the beginning of the end for me. i'm just waiting to see how bnet2.0 will screw up Diablo3 and make me just stick with Valve, where the content updates are free and the DLC stuff is all truly optional. Blizzard is already selling premium WoW services for additional cost and is working on introducing more things to sell at a premium (for a subscription game where you have to buy expansions), and pretty soon they'll be selling SC2 custom maps like they're iPhone apps.
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zerg needs a serious overhaul in my opinion, there is no 1 supply unit, the roach is a protoss in zerg skin, the hydra is a slow and high tech marine, the corruptor is too boring, there is not enough stuff on the T3, ultralisks are terribad for their cost and... thats all I can think of right now, but seriously, whos with me in that zerg is just boring. the only fun/interesting units are zergling, baneling, muta, infestor, overseer and broodlord. the rest is just "generic unit that is on ground/air and can attack ground/air and isn't even very good at it."
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On May 19 2011 23:02 Roblin wrote:
zerg needs a serious overhaul in my opinion, there is no 1 supply unit, the roach is a protoss in zerg skin, the hydra is a slow and high tech marine, the corruptor is too boring, there is not enough stuff on the T3, ultralisks are terribad for their cost and... thats all I can think of right now, but seriously, whos with me in that zerg is just boring. the only fun/interesting units are zergling, baneling, muta, infestor, overseer and broodlord. the rest is just "generic unit that is on ground/air and can attack ground/air and isn't even very good at it."
Things certainly seems to have changed from BW... The beefy protoss units we know are all gone, left is a glass army dependant on gimmicky forcefields, and Roaches being pretty much the most cost efficient unit in the game...
From a balance standpoint i suppose it's fine, but i did like the unit design of BW a lot more 
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On May 19 2011 23:01 eggs wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:52 Sueco wrote:On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion? Don't be surprised if it's another $60. The Blizzard of 2011 is not the Blizzard you used to know. seriously. it's just not the same company anymore. bnet2.0 was the beginning of the end for me. i'm just waiting to see how bnet2.0 will screw up Diablo3 and make me just stick with Valve, where the content updates are free and the DLC stuff is all truly optional. Blizzard is already selling premium WoW services for additional cost and is working on introducing more things to sell at a premium (for a subscription game where you have to buy expansions), and pretty soon they'll be selling SC2 custom maps like they're iPhone apps.
Yeah but Value only gives you free stuff to make sure you're constantly on Steam buying games on sale. Plus they're the only company with a slow release schedule than Blizzard. Did you know there is already more time in-between Half Life 2 and 3 than 1 and 2?
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Yeah, I think Blizzard is going to make Kerrigan into a Ret Pally.
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This is gonna be awesome! Really looking forward to be a zerg in story mode.
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On May 19 2011 22:53 Mikilatov wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2011 22:49 aksfjh wrote:On May 19 2011 22:47 frontliner2 wrote:On May 19 2011 22:46 DyEnasTy wrote:On April 22 2011 11:10 Draconicfire wrote:On April 22 2011 11:08 zhurai wrote:
just wondering, is hots going to require wings of liberty? (since friends at church want to buy it, but are like "ehh i'll just buy hots and not wol" Yes, it's an expansion pack. It expands on the base (WoL). So I wont have to pay the "full" game price since its only an expansion? You need to Own WOL before you can install HOTS Has this been 100% confirmed yet? I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up as an "expansion" but also a standalone. I wouldn't exactly be surprised either. It seems like that's becoming more and more common method in the game industry, because shrinking your potential buyer base from 'everyone' to 'only people who own the original' is pretty dumb, even if it does move a few more copies of the original, I doubt it's worth the cost of eliminating most of your potential buyers. I can see people being pretty upset about it though.
Pretty sure it's not going to change considering World of Warcraft: Cataclysm and Blizzard in general.
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On May 19 2011 23:02 Roblin wrote:
zerg needs a serious overhaul in my opinion, there is no 1 supply unit, the roach is a protoss in zerg skin, the hydra is a slow and high tech marine, the corruptor is too boring, there is not enough stuff on the T3, ultralisks are terribad for their cost and... thats all I can think of right now, but seriously, whos with me in that zerg is just boring. the only fun/interesting units are zergling, baneling, muta, infestor, overseer and broodlord. the rest is just "generic unit that is on ground/air and can attack ground/air and isn't even very good at it."
Certainly not me. ZvX games are by far the most exciting games to play and watch IMO. I just want to see a few new units, maybe some interesting upgrades for lesser used units, and minor changes to the existing game if any, certainly not an overhaul that would be too much. Two burrow buttons please!
Though I do want do indulge a bit and share an idea I had, the zerg reverse forcefield! Make a spellcaster that shoots a giant blob of creep which allows zerg units to go up and down cliffs or over forcefields, allowing them to create open terrain at will! I have no idea if it would work or be fun, but it sounds cool.
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I just want to know how the multiplayer will be affected by HotS.
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I don't think it's that outlandish to suggest that they'd release a $60 "standalone"/ WoL/HotS package and a $40 HotS expansion.
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I don't want an overall rework, but they need to tweak corruptor and roaches when you know how they failed at finish their design in Alpha.
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