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Poll: Does laddering in Starcraft 2 make you nervous?Yes, I can barely hit that button without breaking into a sweat! (1197) 45% Not really, but after a losing streak it can be tough to go back (604) 23% Yes, but I still ladder regularly (421) 16% Not at all, even when I lose I look forward to my next game (329) 12% I play mostly custom games, laddering doesn't appeal to me much (90) 3% 2641 total votes Your vote: Does laddering in Starcraft 2 make you nervous? (Vote): Yes, I can barely hit that button without breaking into a sweat!
(Vote): Yes, but I still ladder regularly
(Vote): Not really, but after a losing streak it can be tough to go back
(Vote): Not at all, even when I lose I look forward to my next game
(Vote): I play mostly custom games, laddering doesn't appeal to me much
So just wondering if laddering is something that gets your blood pumping, maybe makes you a shake a bit, gets the sweat going, I don't know, pretty much anything stress related. I think most people would agree that SC2 can be a very stressful and frustrating game when you ladder and lose, and I know that a lot of players (myself definitely included) get nervous when they go ahead and hit the ladder. So, does it make you nervous? If it does, feel free to post down below WHY it makes you nervous, and if you have found a way to get around it.
To those of you who don't get nervous from playing SC2, I would hate to not give you a way to participate, please post down below why laddering doesn't ruffle your feathers. Possible things to mention would be why you don't mind losing (assuming you don't), your outlook on points, and how much you play per day.
As for me personally, I get pretty nervous at the thought of laddering. I had a paralyzing fear of failure unfortunately, which effects me in pretty much all facets of my life. In games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Team Fortress and such, that doesn't really effect me, since there is really no penalty for dying. However, in games like SC2, losing has a pretty big impact, and can really have negative consequences. I try to get past it by watching a lot of pro replays, practicing with friends, and playing at least 1-2 games a day to keep myself in the mindset. Still, its kind of a work in progress, since I don't think I have played any games in about a week. Really gotta get back on the horse!
So sound off with a reply about how you voted and why you voted that way!
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it can be...i have a friend who actually needs to take a smoke break every like 3 matches because hes so stressed lol
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I love laddering .. went on a 9 game winning streak and was feeling invincible the other day.. now im having mixed results again  lol but im sure i will be back to raping hardcore soon ;0)
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At least for me, "laddering" is equivalent to "play a game of starcraft against someone about as good as you." I don't really have the "holy shit high stakes" feeling; it's the tournament games that make me nervous as fuck.
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There's no option that applies to me...usually I feel great after winning a game and feel horrible after losing. More losing = more rage = worse play. But I'm never nervous, unless I face a pro on ladder that I respect or if I verse someone that I was bming or he was bming me. Cause if i verse someone that previously bmed me I try my hardest to win. But overall im never nervous
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The only reason I get weary about laddering is if I know I cant give it 100% attention because if I lose and I could have won I WILL be pissed.
Other than that I love laddering for hours and hours not really caring about win/lose or anything. Most people just hate the feeling of having their "blocks knocked over".
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On April 17 2011 08:01 Xanczor wrote:
There's no option that applies to me...usually I feel great after winning a game and feel horrible after losing. More losing = more rage = worse play. But I'm never nervous, unless I face a pro on ladder that I respect or if I verse someone that I was bming or he was bming me. Cause if i verse someone that previously bmed me I try my hardest to win. But overall im never nervous
sorry man, I really do try to get an answer in there for everyone, but I think the "After losing it can be tough to go back answer" might be the best for you, though I know it isn't 100% accurate.
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Winning actually makes me more nervous to keep playing than losing because I know that I'm gonna get tougher opponents. Also, losing makes me want to play more to take my anger out on my next opponents.
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Ladder is FUN! Unfortuantly I don't like to lose. So I play more custom games to improve rather then ladder games to gain expirence. And when you are expecting to lose you are more likly to not care if you win/lose.
Like when I switched to toss I droped to diamond from masters zerg. 40 loses and 3 wins in all of my games after I switched. Im used to losing now.
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I find it hard to hit "find match" but once I get through my first match it's easy going from there; I could play for hours.
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Honestly, if laddering makes you nervous you're too much of a pussy to play it in the first place.
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Voted for "I play mostly custom games, laddering doesn't appeal to me much", reason is: "Yes, I can barely hit that button without breaking into a sweat!", every time I try to play ladder I am playing 10 times worse then I should while playing Customs I am relaxed and do my best.
I am unranked in S2 because of that, but I win fairly often against Diamond/Master players at Custom games (even if I know they usually off-race or try some unconventional tactics which gives me usually edge with my standard play).
It's not only StarCraft, all games I play I really get nervous playing if it is for ladder, points, competition etc.
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On April 17 2011 08:07 tl01234 wrote:
Honestly, if laddering makes you nervous you're too much of a pussy to play it in the first place.
lol, words of wisdom..?
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As a Bronze League player really trying to improve laddering is intimidating because I know I need wins strung together to get my MMR up and every loss seems like an incredible blow to the MMR so I get nervous just thinking about if all my progress will be lost in one game (Even though it probably won't).
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It can get frustrating when you feel like you're doing so well, but you lose to Dark Templars or a baneling bust. For me, after a long losing streak I start to rage and then i stop playing for a week or so.
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Sometimes I feel nervous, and sometimes I dont.
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It's a tough competition. If you somehow manage to ladder intensively without getting emotionally involved somehow, I dunno what kind of super human you are.
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On April 17 2011 08:07 tl01234 wrote:
Honestly, if laddering makes you nervous you're too much of a pussy to play it in the first place.
Looking at current votes it seems we have a lot of "pussies" here at TLnet (including me) :D...
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can't unsee it tt
whiterabbit
OT: Not nervous, just afraid o.o
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Only when I'm on a huge winning streak and my mmr is way above my level. Laddering seems really stressful to a lot of my lower league friends, some will only play customs.
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On April 17 2011 08:07 tl01234 wrote:
Honestly, if laddering makes you nervous you're too much of a pussy to play it in the first place.
and you clearly aren't mature enough to go onto forums with adults, since you can't find a respectful way to voice your opinion
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Depends, as Z or P i have no problem hitting que because i know my matchups and have a good feel of everything.
Been practicing T a lot more lately, im so weak in mirror and vZ right now i cannot get myself to hit the search button haha.
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To those of you who don't get nervous from playing SC2, I would hate to not give you a way to participate, please post down below why laddering doesn't ruffle your feathers. Possible things to mention would be why you don't mind losing (assuming you don't), your outlook on points, and how much you play per day.
If I'm on a losing streak I still continue to play because losing is part of the process to become a better player. It's impossible to become a better player without losing games. When I lose I just repeat the same things which means BO/scouting pattern except I adjust a little with the knowledge what I could have done the game before that (after watching replay).
You cannot progress without failing (in this case a lot of failing). I always blame myself when I lose because in the end you're the person that has to win the game and not the opponent that has to lose it for you. So I rage to myself when I lose even if my opponent won by some cheese but I always press that button to ladder.
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I just cant ladder if I know i will get interrupted, like someone calling or the phone ringing. Other than that lossing sucks and close the game if i get mad then get back and watch the replay.
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I'm only nervous if it's the first Ladder Match Of the day that I'm about to play. Usually after that it's fine.
If you're nervous about Laddering because you think you're going to loose, hit the button, play your best and if you loose, tell yourself theres something flawed about what YOU did and don't cry about imbalance. Look at the replay and try to understand what you're doing wrong, then, hit the "Find Match" button and try to concentrate on improving on what you did.
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originally i would be hesitant to click find match, but that was early release, now i just log on, play several games and dont really get nervous, i think for most people, its because they arent used to the whole ladder aspect
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It really depends on so many things. Some days I sit in front of the screen and assure myself this is going to be another day in rapetown (to my favor) - and then it happens.
Other times I lose the most retarded games. After a big lose streak, I don't get nervous, but more furious and frustrated.
In the end, I never call it a day without winning the last game.
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Yeah, its really just.... nervousing 
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I always get really nervous because when I lose it just reminds me of how terrible I am at the game, and even when I win I feel like I didn't "deserve" it because I make so many mistakes. Whenever I lose I just get worse because I'm upset. Also I have very little time to play so I haven't had time to get used to streaks yet.
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I'm in Bronze. During my Season 2 placement match, I did an MM rush and my hands were literally shaking and it was hard for me to control my army lol.
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So far I'm on a 10 winning streak in 1v1 diamond. Just went against a toss ZvP and it was the most epic match I've played in a long time. I'm kinda scared cause I know eventually I'll lose and it's just hard to press play!
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was doing good and holding my own, now i'm down 6 games and almost back to 50% -_- don't wanna hit the play button now..
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No, I hate starting out like a noob and I want to be the best by taking the least shortcuts. I want to be some magical undiscovered talent.
......that's how I think, anyways, even though I know it's not true T.T
I guess it's whether or not you think the trade-off - practicing to get good at a game - is worth it. To me it isn't.
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I used to be very nervous about playing ladder. I feel fine about it now. I used to play smurf accounts so that I wouldn't be messing up my own ranking. It seemed like after a certain amount of games I stopped being nearly as worried about losing.
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Considering TvP is my worst match up, I get pretty nervous whenever I play one on ladder. Yesterday, I played 6 games, and 5 of them were Toss. I was pretty damn nervous going into every game.
I sometimes get nervous in TvZ just because I'm so scared of muta harass and a baneling bust. xD
TvT is my best matchup, so I' never get nervous when I play against a Terran.
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I love to ladder but when it comes to 4vs4 this season... It has been horrible going like 1-9 for a few days then turn around and go like 6-0... I get pissed off because games my team should of won is given up to mass voids even when they got nerf
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Just lost 2 games vs P/T ... I'm raging so badly now and I'm already banned on bnet forums, don't know what to do x(
Oh, and I wanted to close firefox with task manager because it was lagging me in game and accidentally closed SC2 during the first two minutes of the game.
FML
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Not nervous at all anymore. When I first started laddering I was, like, "What if I lose?", but I now I feel fine about it.
I don't really get mad losing if I know what I've done wrong and how to adjust my game plan, but if I lose to some silly proxy pylon in my main I get frustrated. Usually take a break if I feel that way. Sometimes I like taking breaks after barely winning because I feel so extatic that I just can't sit. Really fun :D
I love beating cheeses too, so not really angsty about any of those, but I do get a bit lost whenever I am up against a 200/200 death ball.
Gold zerg, btw
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I'm afraid of 1v1 x_x I can get very nervous under pressure or against someone I know is very good, if I don't go into a game believing I can win then chances are I won't :/
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Im not nervous because there is no pressure, if I win I win if I lose I lose, I want to be the best I can be but when I lose I know why I lost and what I can do to stop it. Its only when I start losing when I think its "unfair" that I lost do I hesitate to play, I normally overcome this after a short break and some brainstorming ^^
Masters terran 
EDIT: also just to say I get so nervous playing tournaments even tho I know I dont have much of a chance of winning, I just want to sooooo bad TT
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I really wanna get into Master League, but I always feel so intimidated when I lose like 3 to 4 times in a row because my MMR is sinking already. And then I am even slightly favoured sometimes and I totally go into rage mode, so yeah, it is hard to press that button.
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I am not really nervous when I play ladder games but when I go on a losing streak I just exit the game and do something else for a while. I know some of my lower league friends hate laddering though because they are scare of losing.
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I was very nervious, at frist, and in fact would frequently not play games.
After 500 or so ladder losses, it's come to the point where I'll leave becuase of a bad drone split heh
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Yeah laddering makes me get a little bit nervous, but it isn't the idea of me playing that makes me nervous or that stats are being recorded; It is instead the thought that I might end up getting a ZvZ which I am very uncomfortable in and dislike. If I could play ZvT or ZvP only I would rarely get nervous, but I don't know I don't like ZvZ. Once I see what race I am playing if it is a zerg I remain nervous and some what uncomfortable, but if it is a Terran or Protoss, then I let out a sigh of relief as the game loads .
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I'm not usually nervous unless i see Scrap Station as the map, for some reason i just CAN'T win on that map, no matter who it's against! (I'm terran)
When i got promoted FINALLY to silver a few weeks ago, i felt VERY nervous pressing that "Find match" button for the first time, knowing i'd definitely be facing a silver or above. Needless to say i got demolished my first game, and it really shook me, i was thinking "do i really deserve to be in silver if i can beaten like that?"
I played a few more matches and started winning 2/3 of my games against silver and i started to realize that Silver is hardly better than bronze in most cases. Once i realized that, my playing got much better and now i'm being faced against Gold opponents and either winning or holding my own in most cases. (Hope to get promoted soon to gold! :D)
When i hit a rough losing streak patch (3+games) i get really turned off by the game though, thats why i voted "No, but on a losing streak it's hard to press the button"
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I get nervous if the game itself is very intense and it is hard to predict the outcome of who will lose or win. Those are what I'd call "good games". Any others are just "games". You forget about them as soon as they are over. I can feel frustrated if I lose a lot in a row, though. Since you rarely if ever engage the same person twice on ladder, it is hard to identify what you did generally wrong to lose, since one time it can be that you were just slow on your timing, another that you missed the timing push window, the third that you fell behind on macro and the fourth that you didn't micro well.
When you play against the same person doing the same build every time it is easier to tell what you did wrong and why and improve that, but on ladder it can be so many different things.
I also think it is stressful to start laddering after taking a long break. TThe only time I ever felt scared of laddering was after I took my break, but I realized this was just mind games from my side. Otherwise I'm generally fine, though. 1v1 games are worse than team match up since team match ups are more lenient towards personal mistakes, and I prefer to practice in team match ups to get into shape before I do 1v1s.
What savagebeavers said is good also. I've noticed that the lower level the player, the more scared they seem to be of laddering because they seem to think that they are going to meet too challenging opponents, even though the way the league system works is to exactly reduce this except when it gauges your skills by putting you up against higher or lower ranked players. I always convince these people that this is exactly the reason why you should ladder, because you will always be forced to meet opponents of similar skill and thus force you to improve. It can be intimidating to play against too good players, but too easy players allow for mistakes also and does not improve you. Hence laddering is exactly the place to be if you want to be good.
On April 17 2011 09:07 Galleon.frigate wrote:
I was very nervious, at frist, and in fact would frequently not play games.
After 500 or so ladder losses, it's come to the point where I'll leave becuase of a bad drone split heh
Totally know the feeling! Yesterday evening I was so frustrated because I couldn't split up my probes properly no matter how I tried. Sometimes I was even AFK when the match started because I was looking away and I didn't even notice. I also missclicked the mineral patch several times and sent my workers beside the patch. I haven't lost 500 times though, but I feel these are things you should not do wrong. I'm even one of few among my friends who actually do a worker split, the rest don't seem to care or may not have the accuracy to do it.
I did this in team games though, and I started to think that if I mess up a bit it doesn't really matter. I know what I did wrong and I know how to improve it. I know how to do it right and I can do it right. I was laddering until 2-3 AM yesterday and I started to mess up past midnight, so it was probably tiredness.
I understand that such mistakes may be vital in 1v1 though, since it screws up the timing completely from there with loss of mineral time meaning your build order will always be a bit behind.
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I had no idea people got nervious laddering, never even crossed my mine hehehe :D
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I get nervous sometimes, but after a few games I either get more confident or angry depending on whether or not I win.
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I don't get all that nervous while laddering but when something silly happens that I didn't scout or something unexpected kills me... well... I get really annoyed at myself because of it. So im definitely in the not very nervous but find it hard to play again after a losing streak category. The real problem is after a long break, you lose all your games which is even more disheartening lol!
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It doesn't make me nervous it isn't that big of a deal but when a huge losing streak like I am now on I get nervous ever game counts. I just can't shake this losing streak. Like yesterday I played decent but it seems like every other day its just a day of me losing every game. That's when I get nervous when I know I'm a losing steak. If I lose my first game it feels like its going to be one those days where I do nothing but lose and I start making mistakes all the time.
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Doesn't make me nervous, but if I start to lose a few games in a row, I will take a break from it since I start to get mad and do stupid shit.
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I get nervous on ladder if I play in the first hour after I woke up...
Then I'm usually really unfelxible and stiff and I can't really concentrate. But after a shower, breakfast and some chatting there are no further problems... I had some nerve issues the first 20 games I played on ladder, but I told myself that there is no reason to be nervous and now its gone!
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I get nervous a lot. But i played 6 games last night and that was the most i've ever played at once. After about 2 i felt a lot more comfortable and the last 4 i felt calm. I was listening to music for the first time while playing as well, that seems to keep me calm.
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Hmmm... maybe. I will only ladder when I feel I will play at 100%. Otherwise I will not queue up. I want masters
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there really is no reason to be nervous, you've got nothing to lose lol
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Finding out you're not as good as you think is scary business.
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I get nervous, but I like that starcraft can make me nervous. There aren't that many things in my daily routine that gets adrenaline pumping through my bloodstream. It's only when I've been busy and haven't laddered for a while that I feel apprehensive, 'cause I know my macro won't be up to scratch.
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I'm in Master now, season 1 as well. I am not nervous, but I only ladder when I feel happy with my current play and when I am focused. When I just want to play some games casually I play custom. I do have to ladder a bit more though, but I see enough areas to improve (especially multi-tasking all bases / attacks) that I'd rather practice a bit more in custom games on that before laddering again. I don't really feel like laddering when I know beforehand I can easily do better at certain aspects.
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It doesn't make me nervous it makes me fucking HYPED. I just think FUCK YES time to crush some nerd skulls.
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Once I start raging all my nervousness goes away.
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I would say yes for the first game only. After the first game I dont have any problem. It's mostly because I feel that ill play badly without warming up first.
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I have a constant fear of laddering for some reason. So I just go in custom games, like xelnaga and shattered, so it's easier to get the map I want, and not feel any pressure but get the pretty much same expierence.
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i just prefer team games cause 1v1 is stressful and team games i get to mess around with my friends.
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no but when i go on a losing streak i fuckin rage and break shit
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Not nervous, but I usually get the shaky hands after a win and need to take a break before I start another game.
Also, losses on the ladder make me 10x more focused in the next game. It's weird, but I get pretty angry at myself in sc2 (which never happened in bw) which helps me so much in the following game.
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I get fuckin' freaked out. Posted about it many times here.
In a long match, I'll sweat in the endgame. Sometimes if I work myself up enough waiting for a match, I'll get short of breath. I love the game, I love 1v1 but I've pretty much stopped laddering.
I really enjoy casual 1v1 with friends with a lot of chatting and obsing, do that as much as I can :D
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I wouldn't say I'm nervous, but hitting the button gets my adrenaline pumping for the match. Losses don't affect me that much but it can be a little intimidating, especially after a long win streak. I just get excited to play a good game.
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I get nervous all the time, I guess thats the reason I watch stream most of the time.
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Actually for me, laddering does feel different than say, playing a FFA or custom game. I think because there're points at stake but I try not no think too much about it. Unfortunately, my subconc lets me know that he cares xD
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On April 17 2011 09:36 Lazy_89 wrote:
It doesn't make me nervous it isn't that big of a deal but when a huge losing streak like I am now on I get nervous ever game counts. I just can't shake this losing streak. Like yesterday I played decent but it seems like every other day its just a day of me losing every game. That's when I get nervous when I know I'm a losing steak. If I lose my first game it feels like its going to be one those days where I do nothing but lose and I start making mistakes all the time.
I kind of feel that way too about my first games of the day, sometimes I can just feel that I wont be playing my best. When I bought SC2 on the release date I sat down and laddered right away without any experience in sc2. After 2 loses as terran I switched to zerg and immediately started to win (Zerg BW player). After a few days of laddering my win ratio was great. I started playing team games after that, and never 1vs1 laddered since. After achieving my goal that was the brood lord portrait, I came back to 1vs1s, but this time customs. I am still in this custom game trap frame of mind, and am afraid to press start.
Mainly its because I will be facing players as good as me. If I feel I'm not playing my best it makes it even harder to want to ladder.
I will custom to warm up. I fall into keep customing and soon I become tired and there's no way I'am pressing start.
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For the most part there's no stress at all, but if I've just beaten someone in a very satisfying way I won't be able to play another game for a while because I'm so pumped from my win and too busy going back over the game in my mind. The only time I do get nervous is when I roll a TvP; since I play pure mech in that matchup I feel like every game I'm defending the honour of factory units and if I lose I'm a failure and have let down every mech user in the world. Currently I'm browsing TL instead of playing because I just smashed someone with mech, which combines my two ladder-related mental issues. :D
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I don't get nervous laddering except for 1v1's. Like it's only at the beginning for the 1st 2-3 matches of 1v1 laddering when i get that "eww" feeling, especially if I lose. But once I get in the groove I usually play 7-10 games.
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For me it makes me kind of nervous, but when I lose it can be really hard to go back, especially when I know I could've won if I didn't make 1 precious mistake.
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It used to. I'd win one game and then stop because i didn't want to lose. I just kept reminding myself that ladder doesn't matter at all. It's a great way to practice. And now I just play games freely. The only way to improve is to play.
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I'm nervous until my first loss of the day. Then I just stop caring and keep pressing that find match button.
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After the first game it's fine, but i have to say, getting a random d/c or something in a game I could have won will put me off laddering for the rest of that day. This is only for 1v1's though (I treat team games as just a bit of fun with mates)
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On April 17 2011 09:53 carbonaceous wrote:
I get nervous, but I like that starcraft can make me nervous. There aren't that many things in my daily routine that gets adrenaline pumping through my bloodstream. It's only when I've been busy and haven't laddered for a while that I feel apprehensive, 'cause I know my macro won't be up to scratch.
This is a good point. Even though ladder can, to borrow from Day9, pump a bunch of chemicals into your system, I really embrace it as a good thing. I can not think of any game that gets me as pumped up. I think we get nervous thanks to the competitive nature of this game, but the thrill of winning keeps us coming back no matter what.
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Hate losing consecutive games but no I don't get nervous, no reason to be (on ladder) for me.
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Once in a while I feel nervous about losing. So I join and leave a couple games.
Now the worst has already happened, I'm on a losing streak. Time to get over myself and just play.
My ladder rank is nothing special, no one else will ever care about it so no reason to worry about trashing it if it makes me practice more.
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I get pissed when lesser skilled players beat me with a stupid strat, but i just find player a lot of SC tiring
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My god, when I get on SC2, I never immediately want to go ladder, because it always seems to put me under pressure or something >_<
Yeah, once in a while, you really have a huge urge to ladder, and you sometimes even get used to it, or have the right mind set, but it usually makes me really jittery, especially when I'm playing someone that I know/think is better than me.
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Not really I mean even on a losing streak it just motivates me to break that streak.
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On April 17 2011 12:03 AliasO wrote:
Not really I mean even on a losing streak it just motivates me to break that streak.
I envy you sir, because losing streaks motivate me to break my laptop...
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Thank god! I thought I was the only one who had ladderphobia. but when I win one game, my adrenaline goes up so fast that it's like i had 8 cups of coffee
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with the loss count gone, i ladder at my content
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In general, I'll play until I recognize that I'm obviously doing something wrong (ie losing to basic strategies I'm usually able to handle) but otherwise I'll just play. So, if I lose a long macro game, I say big deal - if I lose to a cannon rush or something else due to my incompetence in scouting proxy locations, I go take a break.
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scared to lose; scared to be demoted.
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I dont get nervous and when I lose for some reason it makes me want to play more even though I need a break. Then again I have been the same skill level for the past 3 months, so maybe if I took my games more seriously I might actually get better.
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I get slightly nervous when i try laddering. I am also very picky about when i want to play. I like to have a good nights sleep and eat a good balanced breakfast and then smoke a little pot. And even then i can only play 4-5 games because i find it so stressful. I used to play 4-5 hours a day with horrible sleep and eating habits and i never had any problem. Makes me think what happened between then and now.
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I get soo nervous, i can't usually play ladder. I need to play like 5 custom games first, and make like 0 mistakes in the last 2 of them.
In masters so i see my losses, if i didn't i wouldn't have that fear. I really don't know why and do feel like a wimp.
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I usually have to psych myself out a little bit before I can start laddering and I usually get fairly nervous, for some reason if I am on a losing streak it is super easy to play and its almost hard to stop playing even though I will be playing like crap and doing terrible while on the streak. If i start winning games I get super scared about losses erasing my progress so its tough for me to ever get more of a win streak than like 3 games because after that I get too nervous.
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i always get nervous before playing, even after many many years of playing sc1 / sc2. It always wears off really fast once i actually start playing though.
1v1 in RTS is about as competitive, scary and humbling a video game can get.
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Why do we get one of these threads posted every second day?
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Srsly, when i finish a ladder game my heart is pumping like after a 5 miles run. But i think without that pressure i would jsut give a fuck and play 60% of my skill.
On the other hand, maybe also because of that iam not laddering for 1 month now?
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Never never never get nervous, and lately I've been playing top tier players and getting demolished 75% of the time, while they are streaming .
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I never used to have a problem until I swapped races from Terran to Random. I was decently high rated so I know it would be really hard to learn the other 2 races simultaneously against these opponents, so I just started playing customs and team games to practice.
By now, I feel just as comfortable playing protoss and zerg as I do playing terran, but unfortunately my confidence still hasn't returned to me so I have a hard time getting myself to play ladder.
I definitely envy those people that can mass like 15+ games a day every day, no sweat.
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This isn't a "compare bw to sc2" post, but it's not even close in sc2 to how it was in bw.
I am so afraid to start games and possibly lose points on iccup, but when i play sc2 and the whole process is done for me, it feels much safer. Also it feels like you hardly lose any points in sc2 (even though I know I am).
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Only really use laddering to kill time and try out cheesy stuff
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Failure is the first step to success.
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I didn't vote because none of these options really apply to me. I would say I get nervous, but it's only in the games that I start getting nervous. Usually I try doing some wrists snaps or shakes to kinda get the nerves out.
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Where's the "hitting the find next game button is as addictive as doing a line" option?
After years of waiting 30+ minutes to play a half-decent DotA game and taking at least 10-15 minutes to play a game on iCCup, auto match making is so sexy.
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I look forward to laddering every day. I feel like every game I play, I improve and learn. If I lose, I'm one of those people who will keep laddering till I win. I'm a lot like my dad and grandad in this way too; one time, grandad was making a table or something and it wasn't coming together well so he stayed up literally all night getting it to look good. Just kind of a brute stubbroness in my blood I guess.
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I used to be, but then I just did it a lot. Your losses are all going to be wiped next season anyway. I decided I just wanted to work on being a better player, and as I improve, my ELO and win/loss ratio will hopefully catch up. Think of SanZenith, who was terrible in GSL Season 1 (I THINK it was 1) but is now one of the top Protoss players in the world.
That said, I do fall apart in a big losing streak and start playing badly, even as I keep going hoping for a "solid win". It actually makes it easy to see how pros can stress out after losing the first few games in a BoX.
Slightly unrelated: I also get frustrated when I feel like messing around in a particular match-up, and I'll just get other matchups all day.
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The first game is hard, and games after a winning streak are hard.
After losses I instantly hit the button for the next match (unless I'm on a huge losing streak).
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"Not really, but after a losing streak it can be tough to go back"
This option was the most fitting for me. I usually 1v1 ladder no problem. Recently though, I had this horrible I think it was 11 game loosing streak and I just raged. Slammed my fist on the keyboard, broke a couple keys, then said fukuuuuuu dolphin!
After that I went on a week long strike and played only team games, trying to hit masters in RT 3v3 and 4v4. This weekend I currently got the urge to play 1v1 and have been having a blast.
So I generally don't have a hard time playing, but when you get those massive loosing streaks I feel like I just have to take a break from 1v1s for a bit.
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I dont ladder because I don't like to think that I can't beat people in customs, so whats the point of even trying ladder... I'll just get mad cause I can't just leave if I make a gay mistake like worker split lol..
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The key to laddering is just to try to mellow out and not take it very seriously. If you always manner and with "glhf" and "gg" I find that it's a lot easier to relax and have fun with it. I admit I still bm protoss players pvz from time to time though lol.
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On April 17 2011 15:17 Axx wrote:
I dont ladder because I don't like to think that I can't beat people in customs, so whats the point of even trying ladder... I'll just get mad cause I can't just leave if I make a gay mistake like worker split lol..
That's a really odd way to look at it though. Laddering usually means you're placed against people you are likely to beat (aka same skill level, sometimes higher/lower). Custom games are a coin flip, sometimes you get bronze players, or sometimes you get masters, you can't beat yourself up over that!
I personally find it nerve wracking to ladder, but once I get into the 'zone' i guess, it's not too bad. I'm not sure if it's just me, but I'd say I'm a low/mid diamond player, and while being in diamond is sort of an achieving factor, every loss I get makes me feel like I don't belong, almost as if I should be in platinum instead or something because during S1, I went 10-3 in platinum. I don't know, that's just my mindset, every loss makes me feel like I'm not up to par with my league, but every win feels fantastic, especially if the opponent was favored.
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On April 17 2011 15:17 Axx wrote:
I dont ladder because I don't like to think that I can't beat people in customs, so whats the point of even trying ladder... I'll just get mad cause I can't just leave if I make a gay mistake like worker split lol..
so what, you'd rather play horrible players who prefer customs over ladder ...
customs are fine if they're organized, random customs are just people dicking around or other kids who are too scared to ladder/be competitive.
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I have this weird love/hate relationship with laddering. I just do not have the time/motivation to really force myself to get better, but I also know that I am better than a lot of the people in my rockin' Bronze league. I have played plat/diamond level players and given them a run for their money before in custom games and with my friends, but for some reason I just get so frustrated when I lose to 6-pool and other cheese like that, so I just don't like laddering much.
Whenever the games go longer than like 10 minutes, I usually win, but it is that early game that I am always fearing so much. =)
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realy only when you get into the super big battles were 500 things are going on for 10 mins that gets the heart going
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I usually get nervous playing the first game. I just try to make small talk with my opponent to calm myself down; they usually think I'm cheesing though. :|
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On April 17 2011 07:58 Falcor wrote:
it can be...i have a friend who actually needs to take a smoke break every like 3 matches because hes so stressed lol
lol we call it the "calm stick".
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I love laddering, but I do get nervous all the time about cheese, but I know its part of the game, so that's what I'm dealing with.
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I hate when I go on 10-30 game winning streaks because I can't make myself ladder for a week or more due to fear of losing streaks. T.T I am also one of those people who have trouble doing the first game on ladder but after that I'll generally play for many hours until I get too mentally stressed to continue.
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Clicking the button doesn't get my heart pumping at all, but in game moments do. Like when i manage to spot his 2thor1raven push with a well placed observer. Then it's crap crap crap, i hope i'm able to remember to keep chrono boosting my coll, i hope it pops in time, staying on top of warp cycles, not getting supply blocked, sneak in a probe, OH SHOOT WAIT! I made so many zealots that i should be at the bottom of my ramp instead of the top, Cmon colossus i need you now!! zealots in front, spread my units, guardian shield, focus fire thors, crap a pdd, he's going for my colossus, pull it back, 2nd col needs more chrono boost! It pops just in time that it's not really needed. Phew.
So yeah, moments like that. Pushing the button though, not at all.
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I get insanely stressed playing 1v1s.. team games I relax a lot but in 1v1 games, no matter how much I tell myself 'it doesn't matter' I just get really stressed and tense.
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Its not that it makes me nervous I mostly just get frustrated after a while. Especially when I lose not because I lost but because I always feel like I did something stupid...
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It feels really great to be on a hot streak.
But it feels even worse to be on a losing streak. When I'm not doing well, aka not above 50/50 for the today, every ladder match makes me feel a bit more :/
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i used to get nervous when i worried about getting better and getting promoted, but after 1000 games i dont feel nervous anymore, since if i'm plat after that much playing, i'm gonna be trash forever :p
now i just play sometimes for fun.
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The more I lose the more I play because I want a revenge. ^^ Loosing on ladder makes me nervous but it doesn't influence games played.
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It gets...annoying at times.Playing with zerg and getting cheesed 6/10 games doesn't help.Also there's nothing worse than rewatching the replay and seeing that you could of won,if you would of just payed more attention to the minimap or made 2-3 extra units and that you lost for such a minor yet absolutely STUPID mistake.
Still,pressing the button is the hardest part,after that there's no worries.
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I just wish i could disable chat.
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Pretty sure I'm more nervous when I'm on a winning streak (5+ games) because I know better opponents are a click away. Atleast while on a losing streak you can learn and try to correct what mistakes you've made in an attempt to get another win. But in general, yes I'm somewhat nervous while laddering, which is a GOOD thing.
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I think the biggest reason I get nervous when I ladder is because I want to advance, and if I mess up, it'll take infinitely longer to balance my MMR.
If I could see my MMR, or have some unranked ladder (like a queue, not just asking ppl to play) I'd be so much more likely to play 25-30 games a day, instead of my usual 10-20.
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It's kinda crazy for people to even ladder if their so nervous. What would make someone who is terrified of laddering be able to hit the find match button? does the benefit of winning and having a good game out weigh the anxiety of laddering god i hope so.
i used to be mildly anxious when i played only a couple of games a day or i havn't played for a while and was anxious about my skill just disappearing overnight. I've found it completly disappeares the more games i play where it's got to the point where i actively look forward to getting on win or loose.
I would make the assumpion on my exsperience that the people that are nervous and are answering yes i can hardly press the look for match button without sweating are the players who don't play alot of games day in day out and the best cure for them is just to mass games i can guarantee you will stop fealing nervous when you've pressed that button 50 times today and the worlds not imploded
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It depends if you care about your ranking.When i started doing irl stuff and not care about rankings anymore,I am no longer nerv ous in doing so.In WoW,when ratings do matter and losing a match in arena can lose you 30 points while winning only 2,you can get nervous a lot.
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This is for me the main reason why I don't play more than I do. I get extremely nervous. There is such pressure when you decide to go play!
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I used to get really nervous until I got pissed at myself for getting nervous over laddering, so I forced myself to play a 5 hour ladder session in one go, win or lose.
That seems to have cured it.
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not sure what feeling it is, but there is usually like a 20 minute to an hour break in between each of my games. really hinders my ladder score :/ no fear during customs though so definitely has something to do with ladder/points.
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The first match is usually hardest to go for, but after every game it's easier to click the button.
But I have it like this, if I win I feel like I've done my job and I'm hesitating to search for another game. Whenever I lose I'm instantly up to click the button again, because I just don't feel satisfied. I might go on a tilt and continue into the late night to get that win. I once went through 9 losses from 10pm to 1am during a test week, and went to sleep at 1:15 AM, really sad, disappointed and mad. Then after 10 minutes I jumped out from my bed, turned my PC on again and went for 1 more game, which I won. My opponent was one league below me, but anyways, win is a win. Went to sleep with a good mood after that, haha.
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I dont get nervous laddering but when I start losing streaks I probably shouldnt play, after 4 or more games losing, any sarcy comment from an opponent will nomrally result in BM especially a premature gg.
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I don't get nervous if I lose or am on a losing steak. I get the most nervous when I'm on an epic winstreak and I don't want it to end, which makes me play less, which makes me worse so the streak ends and thigns are back to normal lol.
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Got something to do with your mindset as well, at least it does for me. If i win 3 in a row i click the button with ease, but when i start off with a 0-2 loss i feel somewhat compelled to keep playing just to even the scales 2-2. Starting with a mindset like that, aiming on recovery only makes my game worse because i start to get hasty and overlook stuff..
I really don't get why i care as much as i do.. I have become to competative! I blame society.
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I picked "Not really, but after a losing streak it can be tough to go back", However, my actual mindset is more like "Not really, but after a losing streak/during a winning streak it can be tough to go back/ladder". I seem to begin caring about my ranking more a more and I thoroughly enjoy those streak so I watch out and try to keep it. If I've lost 3/4 games in a row I get the same thing, should I go ladder more so I can get more practice or should I just call it quits for the day because I'm having a bad day (in Starcraft). Those are the reason why pressing that fearful button can be quite difficult sometimes.
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Being nervous by laddering? That does not make any sense at all. Nothing is at stake when you ladder, you will win/lose about 50% of your games no matter if you improve or not. There is no money on the line and you cannot lose anything no matter what the outcome is.
I understand being nervous in tournaments since getting/not getting 20000$ will be decided by your performance. But ladder is just for fun and there is nothing to be gained or lost there.
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for me its like this: sure, i also am a little bit nervous when i start a ladder game, thats normal i think in any challenge you dont wanna lose, but when the game has started its completely gone.
and when i have a losing streak, i just get frustrated and keep on playing, dunno why^^ normally i stop laddering after a few games (sometimes only 1 or 2, other days maybe 5-7), but when i get frustrated i keep on playing and because im so frustrated, i just play horrible and forget about every safe macro style i normally always play and just get completely stumped into the ground lol
like this i sometimes lose 15 games in a row until i realize its really bad what im doing and i have to stop it xD
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I get nerves when I lose, but they're almost immediately banished, at least by the time the counter starts for the next game.
It's trite to say it perhaps, but your ladder rank really doesn't matter at all :p (that's not to say you can't care about it, of course, but it still doesn't actually matter). So even tho I get annoyed at the point of losing, in general it's not in any way overwhelming enough to stop me getting back out there to stomp some more nerds.
It's a pretty good game and ladder is pretty much the best way for non-pro's to experience it.
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Yeah I get nervous, especially when I haven't played in a while.
On regular play times tho, I just ladder until I stop caring
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i used to, however i changed my goals in laddering to aim for 10 ladder games a day rather than trying to get a higher score, and it makes me a lot less nervous
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When I haven't played for a while, I get really nervous. Other than that, not really.
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I used to be really nervous but now I don't really care at all even if I lose 10 games in row.
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not really nervous, it's just less fun cuz u need to tryhard, noone wants to lose !~~:D
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Yea problem is I need to be in try hard mode which requires some effort.
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I get nervous but i love it.
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This pretty much sums it up
![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/sY1Ok.jpg)
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On April 17 2011 17:08 TrANCE, wrote:
It's kinda crazy for people to even ladder if their so nervous. What would make someone who is terrified of laddering be able to hit the find match button? does the benefit of winning and having a good game out weigh the anxiety of laddering god i hope so.
i used to be mildly anxious when i played only a couple of games a day or i havn't played for a while and was anxious about my skill just disappearing overnight. I've found it completly disappeares the more games i play where it's got to the point where i actively look forward to getting on win or loose.
I would make the assumpion on my exsperience that the people that are nervous and are answering yes i can hardly press the look for match button without sweating are the players who don't play alot of games day in day out and the best cure for them is just to mass games i can guarantee you will stop fealing nervous when you've pressed that button 50 times today and the worlds not imploded
I actually play like 20 games a day, and I still have to step back and play CSS or something every few hours, just because I can't justify going in and potentially stalling my promotion another week.
I think the biggest problem (for people in lower divisions that want to get promoted) is that laddering is so volatile, you might face (in gold) a silver or a diamond, and it seems like it just goes on forever, so someone facing a lot of plats, and maybe winning half their matches (see: me lol) might not want to keep going in, because even though the MMR says "mid plat", the league says "rank 2 gold".
The second problem is that for people in low divisions, they usually cant justify customs for practice, because of two reasons. The first one is that it doesn't help get promoted (though the practice you get may make the promo easier to achieve, it just doesn't give u points like ladder does). And second, the idea that no matter how much you practice, it doesn't matter if you're stuck in the same division for a few weeks.
Iunno lol, I'm already feeling trapped in gold and I've only been playing for two and a half weeks.
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I haven't even laddered since the new season started. I was always afraid of getting demoted to a lower league when I laddered. It's probably doesn't fluctuate as much as I think it does, but it just feels like you are one step closer to demotion when you lose lol. Strangely, winning doesn't feel like you're one step closer to promotion though =P
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I used to be nervous in most online games, i remember my first forray into Arenas in WoW back in BC when they just came out.
Then my ass went to the military and now i can manage it, i rarely get nervous about anything anymore let alone videogames.
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Experience is the best way to get your nerves down. Now I've been playing this game for more than a year, but I played a lot of custom games before going on ladder to 'warm up' cus i really didnt want to sink on the ladder. But then i began participating in tlopens and realized what nervousness was xD And all of a sudden ladder ranking wasn't that important anymore and since i have been laddering completely without nerves and my tournament nerves have also gotten stronger. (not perfect yet thou)
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For me first time hitting the 'search'-button is the hardest, after my first match it get's much easier.
If I have some stressing games I feel like I need to pause some time.
So, in general I get nervous within a game, but I never got as stress as in front of an exam xP
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For some reason I get very nervous laddering 1v1, don't have any problem churning out 2's. I'll also never requeue after I win in 1v1, but I'll keep going if I lost.
All in all I prefer custom games, I have a nice circle of friends who are around my skill level so it's no problem.
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Intellectually I know ''pfft it's just ladder why should you care what other people think of you?'' but I always find myself hesitating for 2 reasons 1. I don't like competition that much 2. My internet lags like no other.
But once I get into the swing of things I can play for about 5 games by then I'm usually too pissed at the lag too play more.
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When I started to play I was nervous and shaking when I played ladder but when I got comfortable in my game it went over. Also, when people learn to drop the "omg what if I lose? I don't wanna lose points"-attiude laddering will be more fun and not so nervously.
DON'T BE AFRAID TO LOSE!
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Actually thinking about it, the thing that really stopped the nerves for me was being able to understand, in most of my games, why I lost. Thinking about why you lost and how you can do it better actually distracts you from nerves and replaces that sinking feeling you get after a loss with active thinking about the next time you're in that situation. When I don't understand why I lost I usually rage a bit and then go watch the replay, and then I'm back to understanding.
pro[1] tip yo.
[1] not actually a pro.
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It makes me horrible nervous. I always say to myself: "pff its just a game, dont care" But it doesnt work. After every game my hands are shaking and im swetting xD This is so hilarious t.t
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A frizend of mine is actually too afraid to ladder(1v1) and only plays customs and team games.
I know it can be somewhat scary to play solo especially after playing some team games, but you just have to make peace with the fact that you're going to lose games, there's no shame in that and no reason to be scared...
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I overcame this fear long before, I was so scared when I switched from B.net to iCCup in BW, but then I noticed there were a lot of crap people just like me, (apart from the [KR] people that were mostly smurfs), but yeah, I am overwhelmed by the people who are scared to ladder, you really should overcome it and enjoy the moments, I had a period that I lost 3 days in a row when i was like 2-22, and even was under performing against my friends in my custom games. But after that just break the underwhelming performance and go 10-0 the next day, and keeping up the pace.
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I dont get nervous, but i get bat shit crasy when i loose. So i usually just gives up after a couple of losses.
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Being in Bronze league has it's benefits. I'm never nervouse to ladder because there's no way to possibly drop further than I already have, so the victories feel like they're huge and the losses hardly matter.
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I used to be nervous when laddering, it seems like they're mostly gone now .
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On April 17 2011 19:59 Tiwo wrote:
I overcame this fear long before, I was so scared when I switched from B.net to iCCup in BW, but then I noticed there were a lot of crap people just like me, (apart from the [KR] people that were mostly smurfs), but yeah, I am overwhelmed by the people who are scared to ladder, you really should overcome it and enjoy the moments, I had a period that I lost 3 days in a row when i was like 2-22, and even was under performing against my friends in my custom games. But after that just break the underwhelming performance and go 10-0 the next day, and keeping up the pace.
Gogo vent slacker
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Blizzard ladder:
"If you play this game you will be evaluated. We won't tell you how good you're doing until it's too late. If you lose you may be demoted to a lower league. You may not be worth of the league you're in anymore. And everyone will be able to see it. If you win, you may be promoted. Or not. We like to keep you in the dark, but we still keep evaluating you in every game you play."
Never have i heard anyone complain about fear of playing a game like i hear in starcraft 2. Never have i heard anyone complain on any FPS or simulator of any kind. They just don't use agressive and somewhat obscure evaluating the players mechanisms as employed in SC2.
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On April 17 2011 20:39 Apolo wrote:
Blizzard ladder:
"If you play this game you will be evaluated. We won't tell you how good you're doing until it's too late. If you lose you may be demoted to a lower league. You may not be worth of the league you're in anymore. And everyone will be able to see it. If you win, you may be promoted. Or not. We like to keep you in the dark, but we still keep evaluating you in every game you play."
So Blizzard is effectively GLaDOS?
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On April 17 2011 17:33 SpaceToaster wrote:
I don't get nervous if I lose or am on a losing steak. I get the most nervous when I'm on an epic winstreak and I don't want it to end, which makes me play less, which makes me worse so the streak ends and thigns are back to normal lol.
You wrote exactly what I experience aswell. I do play my best this way but get more nervous as I play to improve myself starting to face people that are far too good for me to face right now. If I'm on a losing streak I can spam find match 100 times in a row since im determined to regain what I lost however this doesn't usually turn out the way I want it to go as I lose focus ^^.
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On April 17 2011 21:07 nafz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 17 2011 17:33 SpaceToaster wrote:
I don't get nervous if I lose or am on a losing steak. I get the most nervous when I'm on an epic winstreak and I don't want it to end, which makes me play less, which makes me worse so the streak ends and thigns are back to normal lol. You wrote exactly what I experience aswell. I do play my best this way but get more nervous as I play to improve myself starting to face people that are far too good for me to face right now. If I'm on a losing streak I can spam find match 100 times in a row since im determined to regain what I lost however this doesn't usually turn out the way I want it to go as I lose focus ^^.
I second(third) this. I only feel some kind of pressure when I'm on a streak and don't want to break it. Even more so, if I'm on a streak I get too confident and start doing builds I'm not comfortable with and in general trying out slightly retarded things. Which of course ends up ruining said streak.
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Yeah this is a phenomenom in SC2. Alot of my friends refuse to ladder and only play Custom. They get really afraid and if they loose 1 match they stop SC2 for many days.
I was like this also before but you have to realise, top players would never be where they are without encountering TONS of loss and TONS of cheezing. I saw White-Ra's stream a few days ago, and he got cheezed alot in Grandmaster league. But he GG and takes next game.
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I voted for no but difficult after a losing streak because that's how I'm feeling right now. I really enjoy laddering (and playing custom games and messing around in 2v2/3v3/4v4 lol) but laddering really gets me excited because I know I should be playing against people who are similar in skill to me. However lately I've been losing quite a lot and it's really discouraging to carry on laddering if I feel I am not up to my normal standard. Maybe it's lack of sleep or something, but I want to get better and so I carry on hitting that "Find Match" button.
I guess a part of all of us just want easy wins sometimes, but that never makes us better. And if we want to improve we've gotta go through the losses and correct our mistakes.
I suppose another thing for me was when I got promoted to Platinum I found the matches to become increasingly difficult and losing more and more. It's just frustrating, especially coming from a series of losses (in pretty decent games I might add) and getting 6-pooled the next game... but that's just me
Play Aiur Chef to calm down lol :D
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I voted yes, I often find myself not laddering just because I don't want to play Diamond/Masters and want a more relaxed game session. I don't know if 'nervous' is the right word, but I still feel it fits well. :3
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First game is always easy. Then, either:
A) I win. Better end on a high note and not ruin the feeling with a loss.
B) I lose. Better not turn this into a streak. I'll come back when I'm clear.
So yeah. Nerves after the first game, for differing reasons depending on the result
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I don't get nervous laddering but I do get nervous when I try out a new strategies on ladder and it goes a bit to well or when I was about to lose but are starting to come back.
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I feel slightly nervous for the first game, my heart thumps a little faster and my hands get colder. But after two or three games its all gone and I just play to have fun. I think after playing DOTA for a good long time with pretty competitive friends all that animosity towards losing is just gone and because I don't play to be in some competition, I don't care enough to rage about a losing streak. I'm just chilling to music while playing some sc2 
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Interesting. I just read the last few pages, yet i haven't found it.
I mean when i'm playing ladder it's exactly like i'm training because i know those ppl are around my level (maybe worse) so i don't feel any pressure at all really. But when i play with friend or occasionnally some way better player than me i get nervous even though it's a custom game...
If you don't want to feel nervous, then like everybody said, just play a lot of games (like 500) and you will feel less and less nervous. Simple as that.
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The only reason it makes me nervous is because when you're on the verge of being promoted, any game that you win or lose can make or break a possible promotion. And I've been on the verge of being promoted for a while now, so every game is a must win T_T
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I don't really get nervous any more, now that they took away the losses showing. Can't be arsed to grind up to diamond/master. I like playing casually more. Normally I'll warm up with some team games and then do some 1v1.
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After a few games, my nerves are completely shot and I need a break.
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Did we really need another thread like this?? Is it really possible that you haven't seen another post exactly like this one 3 days ago? Seriously, how many 'too scared to ladder threads' do we need?
But contributing to this topic.... *sigh*
I ladder in lengthy bursts and then just stop to play customs with friends again. I do not usually feel nervous during these laddering periods.
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I play zerg, which is as stressful as it gets, I also smoke.
At the start of S2 I won my first game, then I proceeded to lose the next 4 on tilt, I had no ciggies and I was stressed as all shit. So in a fit of rage I switched to Protoss and 4 gated to victory in my next 5 games, lost one and decided to take a chill pill till I got more ciggies. I cannot play Zerg without anything to smoke, it stresses me out more than anything on this planet, it was the same leading raids in WoW. I've still barely played this season, I think I've won 12, lost 6, I just don't have the impetus right now.
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Due to having played many games and having dealt with many different scenarios within the game I'm pretty calm. Loss streaks don't really make me nervous as well, they just piss me off.
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i get nervous when u see that ur playing a player who is less favoured as u feel that u need to win to justify ur position, especially after losing an 'even' match or something.
and especially when it's a mirror match (and especially in pvp)
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laddering doesn't really phase me too much, i just know that it's 1 more number, and a match against someone about my skill, so i don't really have to worry about it.. Tournament games on the other hand, especially against higher players, make me pretty nervous
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Not really, but after a winning streak it can be tough to go back
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I find ladder relaxing because all the opponents are unknown faceless people to me, and for all i care, i might as well be playig the computer because i don't interect with any of them. I can do whatever strategy i want, i can play for as long as i want, i can leave mid game if i want. Nothing matters on ladder. It's basically training mode for people with no practice partners or who want a random game/map.
My opponent doesn't give a shit if lose, and neither do I. I just try to do my best and take comfort in the fact that every game makes me a little bit better as a player.
In contrast, i get far more nervous playing a match against someone i know, because then i feel it means something.
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Personally i don't get nervous at all, i just get really stressed if the game goes into lategame with lots of macroing. As for losing; i actually enjoy it, belive it or not, because i get to analyze the games, study my opponents strategy, locate my errors and ultimately get better.
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Yes it makes me nervous. Because while i get superhyped after winning a match, losing a match makes me really mad. Especially when i feel i should have won...
Strong emotions either way ^^
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I barely ladder at all for 2 reasons : I don't really have a lot of time to do that (I still want to watch all the tournaments, watch streams + school) and I lose all my motivation when it is time to hit the ladder button.
I dunno why, but I don't really enjoy ladder, maybe because I get cheesed so much in diamond (I HATE to lose to cheeses against random peoples). I know I shouldnt worry about those things, but I still do. I will try to find some time to ladder more (well, its what I say everytime...).
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It really doesn't. I actually think I'd have more success if it did, because a certain amount of nervousness helps me maintain focus. Right now, I often lose games to stupid crap because I'm too relaxed and my reactions aren't sharp enough.
Also, winning actually makes me want to stop playing, while I can't wait to press the Find Match button again after a loss. This, yet again, is probably not a good thing.
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I get nervous when I try a new strategy or build because I know it will not go so smoothly and I'm more likely to loose. Otherwise I am quite calm.
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I think I'm sick or something.
When I play my hands get sweaty almost instantly, I start holding my breath alot, I sometimes start shaking slightly.. possibly because of lack of oxygen :X and I have my eyes wide open all the time.. I probably look like someone being tortured lmao.
I've still got a fairly clear head, but I get stressed to max. Every single time basically. I'm in diamond with a fairly good record, so I'm no scrub really, but yeah. I would probably be better if I could be more like chilltoss ♥
Edit: I think it has somewhat to do with my MMR being super high as I've been on a roll lately, so every time I play I face someone around 3300 master, which makes every game life and death basically, as I'm probably not actually on that skill level ^^
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Not really and if I lose I just want to win the next game even more.
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I think since the most recent patch where my losses aren't shown I have found myself not as scared of pressing that once daunting button. Now it is just up to making time to play it. :D
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Wow, this poll makes me feel so much better about myself. Not to mention that when I load up a game, there's a good chance the other person feels exactly the same.
I literally get so nervous that I forget to blink. I can get to like the 10 minute mark before I realize due to my contacts killing my eyes. Unfortunately at that point it's so bad that I have to ask for a pause to put in eye-drops. <_<
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i am always very nervous while laddering. i am quite good and think that i can get it to master league (diamond atm), but i am too afraid to fall back to platinum. i dont know why, because i win a lot of games against master league players, but i am too frightened, so i only play custom games ..
maybe someone got a tipp, which can help me. i would like to laddering, but i am a big pussy somehow :/
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i'm usually nervous the first game. (I can only play on weekends), but after is OK. I realised the more i ladder, the more i becoming confortable with playing. So my opinion is play more games
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For me i found the only way to help is to think that i won't play to win, that is, i'll just play to practice strategy, test something, etc. So, at the moment i think things are getting out of control, or im too much behind, and the game is not what i want i leave. I can't be bothered to try everything to win. It's in a way what Idra does. The moment he sees he's close to losing, cya, don't even need to see my army getting obliterated. That way there's no stress. It's like playing aggainst AI.
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I find it incredibly hard to hit the "find match" button. For the few times I have, I've been able to play after that for a while without as much hassle.
The first time however is next to impossible. I'm still not ranked for season 2.
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I used to be so nervous about laddering that I would continue to play vs AI over and over and was getting good at beating them, but human opponents always scared me. I think it is just the thought that i have been putting a lot of time into this game and what if someone else is just better and I cannot compete?
After getting better mechanics, I decided enough with this. The AI is not smart, it is predictable and is now stifling my growth. I said to myself, wtf why are you afraid, the other person is just as nervous as you are, they are afraid of what is going on in your base as well. I drank some red bull, got jazzed up, and hit the button a few times.
Now, i always warm up with a couple games vs insane AI opponent to warm up and get my macro going strong before laddering. I am no longer nervous really when pushing the button, instead of shakes, or worry, it is thoughts of strategy and beating this next guy, and the next guy, and moving up the ladder that is fueling me.
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Never understood the whole "scared to ladder" thing. There's nothing on the line, unless your MMR has some material value to you.
I always try to play well, and there is some stress in that. SC really makes your brain work at 110% ... but I prefer laddering because I know it at attempts to match me with people around my skill level.
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Mmm i wouldn't say i'm scared but laddering seems to just take it out of me. I can only get through 2 or 3 ladder games straight before i get mentally exhausted. Where as if i'm just 1v1ing with friends i can play all day.
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I could play all day, I generally just don't have that much time. Laddering doesn't really phase me unless I go on a really long losing streak, then I just take a break for a little and come back later.
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I feel very relaxed, when playing ladder... well sometimes little annoyed after stupid losses, but laddering is normally very chilly^^.
On tournaments I get easily nervous and start sweating/making stupid mistakes sometimes :/
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I used to get nervous when I laddered but now that I've played over a 100 games I've realized it doesn't matter.
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I played competitive counter-strike for 6 years, I could scrim / play big matches and never be nervous, I just recently got back into the swing of gaming and laddering makes me nervous, maybe its because this game is 1v1 and I'm used to being able to rely on my teammates in 5v5. Anyway, yeah, I get nervous, that will pass though.
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Dont know why though, I mean, playing high stakes poker live does not give me the megasweat, nor does playing 3 0 blitz at 2000 level for hours on end, live work presentations or any other much more likely situation. I've been doing better, just pushing that button, as of late not caring/noticing too much.
But the first game of the day, often got postponed multiple days.. :-)
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Only the first game of the day makes me feel nervous/jittery. I see why the pros like to spam, because that helps. Afterwards after I've "warmed up" then I'm quite relaxed. SC2 is the only game that makes me feel that way. Don't know why actually. And this doesn't apply to 4v4. I don't care if I lose there I'll leave the moment the game goes sour. That's probably it.
As for losing streaks I always play until I win one. I don't like leaving on low notes. I'll just dwell on it all day.
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I get nervous because I know if I go on a losing streak I'll be pissed all day. I don't care about the points, it's just the fear of having my day ruined.
I was the calmest coolest player when I started SC, but the more games I play the angrier I get. No other video game has made me rage like this.
On April 18 2011 02:37 Ownos wrote:As for losing streaks I always play until I win one.
Wish I could to, but that always makes me tilt hard.
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I am always nervous before my first game of the day, but once i play im good to go
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I can't ladder at all Just too nervous and can't play at all which makes it no fun. Don't understand in wc3 and even on my iccup d- acc I played tons
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get nervous as hell when i havent played for over a week. aka like now :<..
but nothing beats nervousness like old school cs CAL playoffs.. that shit was scary.
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I'm not nervous at all. I used to get nervous in wc3 and would be mentally exhausted after each 1v1 game, but after just playing a lot it stopped. Now in sc2 I don't get nervous at all.
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i was nervous at the beginning,but now im very relaxed,i can tell you my secret: i have my aim to be better and better in front of my eyes,so i dont care about single looses,
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Yeah i actually break into a sweat everytime i press the find opponant button, real nervous stuff
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On April 18 2011 03:05 Uhhmm wrote:I get nervous because I know if I go on a losing streak I'll be pissed all day. I don't care about the points, it's just the fear of having my day ruined. I was the calmest coolest player when I started SC, but the more games I play the angrier I get. No other video game has made me rage like this. Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 02:37 Ownos wrote:As for losing streaks I always play until I win one. Wish I could to, but that always makes me tilt hard.
i have exactly the same. Played Leauge of Legends at high niveau, dota at high niveau, but sc2 i just cant ladder without getting so fkin nervous. I want to get this out of my head, but it seems that it doesnt work. so sad T_T
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I used to get really nervous before/during/after ladder games! I joined Valor on the EU servers a couple months ago and since then I'm a lot more interested in doing well in those games and I'm using the ladder to practice for that... After this transition I find laddering a lot less stressful and more enjoyable. However, my anxiety from laddering has now transfered to my tournament games. Has anyone had this too?
If my experience is anything to go by, I'd really recommend people to find some other competitive ways of playing starcraft (tournaments among friends, set up a small league etc etc). By doing this you'll be more invested about those games meaning you can ladder a bit more freely in preparation for the tournament :D
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Well, it's a tough question. I avoided laddering for a while only playing a game a day or so because I hate the idea of losing, however, recently, I've started enjoying the games even if I lose. Playing as random really makes the game shine, much more so than just a single race
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«Not at all, even when I lose I look forward to my next game»
43% of people are taking the game too seriously and not putting enough heart into improving :/
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I just almost never have time to play anymore, and the thought of laddering again now that I've been out of practice for months just doesn't seem that desirable because I know i'll get absolutely crushed. The one bad thing about the match making is that it think I'm as good as I was in december when I was playing daily. Now that my play time has dropped to roughly 2-3 games a week, I just basically don't feel compelled to play at all. The system thinks I'm better than I am, and I don't have the desire to lose 50 matches in a row before it realizes I suck again.
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I used to be nervous all the time, when I first started out, but I never felt scared once I learned how to play from Day9. Once I learned to macro, I felt way stronger than most people in bronze, and recently made it to diamond.
I've been a bit more apprehensive to ladder since I got to diamond, since I'm wrapping up school soon, and my games have gotten much, more challenging. Diamond is hard, but more fun. once I have time to play a bunch again, I know I any sense of fear will disappear.
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So what makes Starcraft 2 Ladder seem way more stressful than so many other games?
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no, but losing puts me on tilt and makes me lose even more games
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I play more if i lose, and it makes me nervous if i win so i don't really want to play next game, i get that anxious feeling TT. So its better to go 1 win 1 lose each time and i can play whole day
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Laddering used to make me nervous when I was in bronze, but after tons of games I'm not as nervous. Always the first game of the day though like jumping into a cold lake, just need that first push.
I think the reason sc laddering is so stressful for so many people is because it's public knowledge how good/bad you are, and so you get artificial self-inflicted pressure (this is the reason Blizzard took out the w/l ratio for under master league; my profile shows 70 wins but not the many many losses ).
imo most nerves come from knowing you'll be judged if you lose and demote/sink to the bottom of the ladder by friends/sc community.
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really suprising stats so far =O!
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On April 17 2011 07:56 Alvas wrote:
To those of you who don't get nervous from playing SC2, I would hate to not give you a way to participate, please post down below why laddering doesn't ruffle your feathers. Possible things to mention would be why you don't mind losing (assuming you don't), your outlook on points, and how much you play per day.
Started playing SC ~10 years ago, don't care anymore about ladder since I understood that it won't give/take anything to/from me. Being #34 Diamond, #4 Master, #76 Grand Master is quite the same, there's no impact on your life. What are you fearing in the end? Who is checking Alvas ranking except ... Alvas?
Why you don't mind losing?
I've left tons and tons (and tons) of games right at start, because it was not the match up/map I was looking for, in the meantime I easily made my way to the Master division. So why should I "worry" when I keep climbing the ranks while not caring about the ladder?
Your outlook on points?
Secondary. Maps, match ups, race you play (imbalances), players caring or not, time (jet lag), etc ... add an important part of randomness to your ranking. Ofc I'm not saying ranking is random, but it's more some kind of a long term feeling on your average level; nothing accurate in the end.
How much you play per day?
As usual it depends. Sometimes 6-8 hours a day, sometimes 6-8 games a month. But yea, I definetly think that the more you play, the less you're freaking out. I must have played something like 10000 games at least (jesus xD), including SC/SC2 ladders, clanwars, training games, etc ... so it helps I suppose!
To conclude, I really do think that people fearing about the ladder are mostly teenagers (no offense), looking for some kind of social acknowledgement, and I can tell you they're heading the wrong way.
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On April 17 2011 07:58 Falcor wrote:
it can be...i have a friend who actually needs to take a smoke break every like 3 matches because hes so stressed lol
I just take a smoke break cause it helps me clear my head, even if I'm on a win streak xD
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On April 18 2011 03:05 Uhhmm wrote:
I get nervous because I know if I go on a losing streak I'll be pissed all day. I don't care about the points, it's just the fear of having my day ruined.
I was the calmest coolest player when I started SC, but the more games I play the angrier I get. No other video game has made me rage like this.
Exactly freaking this
Ive raged my ass into masters league, and now im trying to rage it into grandmaster.
WC3? --> no rage at all
sc2? .. I sometimes must stop myself from bashing down my desk, after losing.. Never needed so much anger management in my life as when playing sc2
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I always want to ladder, but i can never push that "Find Match" button. Ever since i switched to zerg, i dont feel i'm ready to ladder, so i just play customs. When i ladder, i can easily beat my silver opponents, but when i lose, i just go right back into customs and practice. I think it's more of how you see yourself play, then how good you do in the games
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I used to be nervous, but I think I have gotten over it with time. I don't know how that change happened, but I glad it it. I still get frustrated with losses and sometimes, but not so much that it inhibits my will to ladder.
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I can queue for team ladder games without a sweat. But when it comes to 1v1, I do get sort of nervous. I think it has something to do with the blame. I lose in a 2v2 i can always blame my team mate =)
Losing in 1v1 is all my fault. Even though I sometimes take it out on my enemies, blaming them for cheesing or nooby tactics, deep down I know it's all my fault and it definitely makes me nervous.
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yeah lately barelyt ladder cuz i hate to loose, and i feel like i do that way to much since my promotion to diamond
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scared of laddering + extreme tilt when losing..
idk what the fuck is wrong with me
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I actually really hate losing. So much that it's hard to even queue
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My sig (quote) sums up how I feel about the ladder
It doesn't make me nervous, but I can sure find a million things to do before hitting 'Find Match', like watch streams or post in this thread!
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I get nervous for my first ladder game of the day. After that, I can play quite a few and usually stop playing after a 2-3 game losing streak.
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i'm newb and my nerv system is so overreacted of laddering :D
but it's fun and I like it
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On April 18 2011 04:34 parn wrote:
As usual it depends. Sometimes 6-8 hours a day, sometimes 6-8 games a month. But yea, I definetly think that the more you play, the less you're freaking out. I must have played something
or, the less you freak out the more you play?
but I agree, the only way to solve it is by playing, like any fear you just have to hit it in the head
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I would love to see these answers linked with Race choice (& maybe also league)
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not nervous or anything but i still won't hit the button
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I think the ladder is the quickest way to get good matches. I don't get nervous when playing ladder games but when I'm feeling below par I'll play KOTHs instead.
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The first game of the day is the one that makes me the most nervous. Then after that game if I won it then I'll be like "oh yeah, this game isn't so bad. let's play again" or if I lost I'll be like "well I played badly" and want to play more and make up for my bad play. So I'll go 2 or 3 days or more without playing a game and then play like 10 or 15 games in a day =P
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Yeah I get kinda nervous.
It's more the fear of failure then anything T.T
I press the button then i'm like
"What if he's better then me and roll's me" then click cancel alot >:
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i don't get nervous
i get reallllly tired after every game and i can't push myself to play again.
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I shake when I play my first game, but then I get into it.
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I really don't care about ladder and have a lot of fun.
I try a lot of weird builds and i almost never play at 100% that way i can play longer and not feel stressed about laddering, especially as there's absolutely nothing at stakes except if you are in like top10 of Grand Master League, and I'm only in Master.
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No, its fun to play Starcraf hence why I am not nervous.
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I guess my response isn't really listed. I used to get nervous a lot, but now I just don't mind since I don't practice enough or have any builds down. At this point it's just more of a, "Well, let's see what happens" before I lose in a crazy game. That'll probably change once I get to practice a bit though.
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On April 18 2011 04:39 Surreal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 03:05 Uhhmm wrote:
I get nervous because I know if I go on a losing streak I'll be pissed all day. I don't care about the points, it's just the fear of having my day ruined.
I was the calmest coolest player when I started SC, but the more games I play the angrier I get. No other video game has made me rage like this.
Exactly freaking this Ive raged my ass into masters league, and now im trying to rage it into grandmaster. WC3? --> no rage at all sc2? .. I sometimes must stop myself from bashing down my desk, after losing.. Never needed so much anger management in my life as when playing sc2
I've had this problem as well, I am wary about laddering in the morning for fear it will ruin my whole day. I'm honestly wondering whether or not I'm even going to bother laddering again. I'm REALLY enjoying just being a fan and fiddling with some custom stuff or single player. Considering I've been hardcore competitive into some other games in the past this kind of surprises me about myself, but I literally enjoy the game more when I'm NOT playing it.
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Most people are worried about stalling their promotions or scared of getting demoted which strikes me as really strange when basically nothing is on the line. we will still eat today if we never win a game again
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I am not nervous anymore when I ladder. I was nervous once, but since I played some sessions of 10-15 games each, I don't get very much excited anymore.
On April 17 2011 07:56 Alvas wrote:
As for me personally, I get pretty nervous at the thought of laddering. I had a paralyzing fear of failure unfortunately, which effects me in pretty much all facets of my life. In games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Team Fortress and such, that doesn't really effect me, since there is really no penalty for dying. However, in games like SC2, losing has a pretty big impact, and can really have negative consequences. I think it really does not. You lose some points and may be go down in your division standing. But who gives a damn? If you keep playing, you will go up again.
Yesterday I needed 8 games to get mere six points to get back my old division placement. If I would have fail at that I just would play more games today. I think I will play today anyway even if I risk my rank. Because in the long term it will help me.
You said that you practice with friends. I sometimes do that, too, mostly to find out some timings. (So I can send the first overlord on Scrap to the terran's ramp without having to worry that he shot it with a marine because he will not have a marine at that time but I get valuable scouting info.)
But I don't overdue it. Most of my practice is ladder. I consider the entire ladder just a practice ground.
I also watch pro replays and Vods, but mostly for my entertaining. Sometimes I try to analyze a build to "steal" it, but I figure that it is more important to practice a few builds than to know many builds in theory.
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i'm on a 7 loss streak right now.. let's just say i'm not having the time of my life laddering right now.
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im getting madddd desyncs right now, 3/4 games
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Never, not in sc2 at least, in ICC however, its not like that, i have to go take a dump before i start a laddering session :D. In sc2 i guess i simply dont care much :D.
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I never get Nervous when I ladder, but I will only ladder when I am in the best shape. If I had a long day at work, I never wanna ladder because I will play slow and bad. So alot of nights I resort to Custom games even when I wanna ladder lol.
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Last Saturday i played with a huge hangover...
ZvsRandom.
I go for 10 Pool before Overlord (with dual extractor-trick) because i don't want to die to some stupid cheese.
He goes for some seriously late pool.
Well:
Shattered Temple Closepositions --> 8 Lings arrive (did drone after these), they kill everything but 3-4 Drones.. Next Wave with finished Speed kills him.
That game was as easy as it gets... And i had to go back to bed after because i was shaking... Well, i blame the hangover mainly but seriously, this game stresses me out so much ^^.
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On April 18 2011 17:43 Barett wrote:
I never get Nervous when I ladder, but I will only ladder when I am in the best shape. If I had a long day at work, I never wanna ladder because I will play slow and bad. So alot of nights I resort to Custom games even when I wanna ladder lol. I also ladder when I am a bit tired and not in best shape. I don't have to prove anybody anything in the ladder. If I lose the game because a drop slipped my attention or I was too slow defending, so what. That can happen. I don't play a tournament here where is money on the line. gg, next game. I am at least getting some stamina playing.
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On April 18 2011 07:52 SnuggleZhenya wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2011 04:39 Surreal wrote:On April 18 2011 03:05 Uhhmm wrote:
I get nervous because I know if I go on a losing streak I'll be pissed all day. I don't care about the points, it's just the fear of having my day ruined.
I was the calmest coolest player when I started SC, but the more games I play the angrier I get. No other video game has made me rage like this.
Exactly freaking this Ive raged my ass into masters league, and now im trying to rage it into grandmaster. WC3? --> no rage at all sc2? .. I sometimes must stop myself from bashing down my desk, after losing.. Never needed so much anger management in my life as when playing sc2 I've had this problem as well, I am wary about laddering in the morning for fear it will ruin my whole day. I'm honestly wondering whether or not I'm even going to bother laddering again. I'm REALLY enjoying just being a fan and fiddling with some custom stuff or single player. Considering I've been hardcore competitive into some other games in the past this kind of surprises me about myself, but I literally enjoy the game more when I'm NOT playing it.
Exactly freaking this x2. It seem the more I play the less I enjoy it. Seems I'm destined to be more of a fan than a player. Oh well, GSL should be good tonight
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I think I have the weirdest case that doesn't fit in any of the votes.
I get nervous when its searching but after its found, I'm all cool and just play fine. o.O. I do fine or even better during tournament games for some reason.
It's just so hard to press the FIND MATCH. lol I can go on losing streaks and still be perfectly fine without rage (Maybe a little disappointment but i usually don't give a damn lol)
Masters league btw lol.
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After not playing for a few days yeah I get nervous. Other than that not really.
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Well i havent played for a long time, so i am nervous... but playing coop games and some customs, gets me pumped, but im still nervous... One day ill get immune to it, but damn a lose is tough and sucks, especially looking back at the replay and seeing how dumb of a move i made or i shouldnt waited longer to attack...
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yes, I get really nervous. I'm really not sure why... I'm even nervous when i do unranked customs
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On April 17 2011 08:07 CrazyF1r3f0x wrote:
I find it hard to hit "find match" but once I get through my first match it's easy going from there; I could play for hours.
Pretty much me as well.
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After taking a break for schoolwork following the ladder reset, I finally got back into ladder tonight. First game was an absolute trainwreck of a TvT (from both sides actually) but once I got that out of my system I was back on form. In the big scheme of things, a win or loss on the ladder just isn't going to make that big a difference.
That said it's very hard for me to stop on a loss. Even If I lose 5+ in a row, one win to end things and I'll be satisfied.
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Diamond Toss..
I get really nervous if i haven't played for a few days and just getting back to laddering.
And if losing games against Platium guys twice or something i get really mad and nervous at the same time, then it's really hard to hit the search button again, but after like 5 games im getting in a flow and just keep going w/o thinking so much about it
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im really getting nervous, because i finally wanna get to diamond, but am playing too few so far. and im used to much higher winrates from other rts games that i used to play, so im not used to losing that much.... it hurts my ego. i hate losing >:|
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I'm surprised at the poll results. I didn't realize people were this nervous about the ladder system. It sucked getting demoted from D+ to D when I use to play Brood War on Iccup, but on SC2 ladder system I kind of been more casual with the game. I just laugh if I get demoted from my rank. I mean yeah I love to win my ladder games, but I actually have more fun when I lose because I realize what my biggest mistakes are.
*EDIT*
Now that I think about it... I'm 100% relaxed and calm when I play 1v1 ladder games. There's nothing on the line if I lose. Oh noes I lose maybe 20 points... I can easily get that back the next game.
I DO get nervous in tournaments though. When I use to play in Street Fighter tournaments I would get REALLY NERVOUS. I mean I'd fuck up my combos, I'd act like I don't know what I'm doing and stuff. I practiced for so long and then I get all nervous because I don't want to get eliminated from the tournament. So I guess I get nervous from gaming, but not when it's not a tournament or it's not a money match.
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On April 18 2011 18:13 poofie wrote:Diamond Toss.. I get really nervous if i haven't played for a few days and just getting back to laddering. And if losing games against Platium guys twice or something i get really mad and nervous at the same time, then it's really hard to hit the search button again, but after like 5 games im getting in a flow and just keep going w/o thinking so much about it
this.
fricken hate losing streaks against Plats... kills my confidence by about a zillion.. -_-
And then I get them sweaty finger tips... and I RAGE when my keyboard doesn't bind hotkeys properly!!!!!! ARGHH!!
=(
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Wow, theses statistics make me feel with the crowd
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The nerves are the reason why I play 3v3 and 4v4 RT, really chill games where everything is possible. When I reached diamond 1v1, I stopped playing that.. RT games I find are much more entertaining and less frustrating. Besides that, I consider myself just as competitive as every other player below grand masters, just playing for fun.
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So blizz was right about removing loss count below master, ppl are afraid playing ladder. For sure this change made some ppl go back to laddering. By the way iam never nervous while laddering, but generally I am calm person when it comes to for example exams and stuff. Ofc sometimes iam angry while playing cuz I know I should have won that game. AAAAAAAAAAAARGHHH besides that nope
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no, i really dont think removing the losses was good concerning laddering. i really dont see the point removing it, it doesnt change the fact that many are afraid of losing and nervous before laddering.
personally, i never was ashamed of my losses/losscount, its just right before clicking the "search game" button, nothing more...
i really wish my losses back...^^
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Not since I started 6pooling every game.
It's easy when you don't have to make any decisions 
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On April 17 2011 07:58 Falcor wrote:
it can be...i have a friend who actually needs to take a smoke break every like 3 matches because hes so stressed lol
I have to take a smoke break after every game.. even if i win.. its just too stressful even though i win most of the time
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i always forget how my good my opponents are on ladder as i do it so inconsistently
i usually expect them to play at custom higher leveled play, as it's what i'm accustomed to.
so first game is scary as shit, but it's fine after that
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In the beginning it did but now I realise I'm so far from being a decent player that it doesn't matter - I just need experience. It's taking all the pressure away, and I even play sometimes to music. The benefit is that it's much more fun! Losing can hurt, but mostly because I play badly; there have been losses that made me feel good.
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I would like to see how the relevant races are if at all.
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I always get a little nervous/anxious but a solid win on the ladder is great. It's always much more satisfying than team wins or customs for me. Its a random opponent and you have no idea what they'll do (for the most part) and its just one on one. You're accountable for what you do/how you react. To me, its the biggest test of someones skill/strategic thinking. For me, the reason i don't ladder as much as I could is because i like to ladder when im warmed up and feeling good. I don't want to lose because I made careless mistakes or something.
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On April 19 2011 00:34 CarachAngren wrote:
For me, the reason i don't ladder as much as I could is because i like to ladder when im warmed up and feeling good. I don't want to lose because I made careless mistakes or something. I previously also only laddered when I felt I am up to the challenge. Now I ladder if I just like to play a 1v1. If I make stupid mistakes, I just make them. Then I lost a game, so what. My ladder standing is too low anyway to impress anyone.
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On April 18 2011 19:52 Subversion wrote:Not since I started 6pooling every game. It's easy when you don't have to make any decisions
xD cheesing actually causes more stress for me. I've got to worry about carrying out the cheese correctly and then I have to think about transitioning out of it if it gets countered...etc. Maybe I'm thinking too much about my cheese.
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I sometimes find it hard to queue up for that first game but once I get into the swing of things I churn out games. Weirdly I'll play more when I'm playing badly though which results in some terrible tilts but I'm happy at the end when I get a decent run.
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For the most part I'm fine. I practice like crazy before touching a ladder match. If I start losing I back off of laddering and hit practice matches again.
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i LOVE laddering... just the act of playing the game is most fun for me... plus i like it way more than custom games because you experience all types of strategies/timings that it keeps the game refreshing
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Right when I purchased starcraft I wasn't nervous at all. I felt like a little kid, invincible so I do all my placement matches and get placed into gold! Cool so I get into gold with that same feeling and start going on a losing streak... 12 losses maybe before I got demoted. Ever since then I was quite scared to ladder. But now I'm in Platinum and becoming numb to the losses.
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Im not directly nervous but i never have fun to play, i dont know why. When i see Sc2 streams i say to me "I want to play!!", but when i start sc2 and i see the "Find Match" Button, i dont have fun anymore i dont know why. Have anyone a good motivation to play??
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On April 21 2011 02:30 FaBe wrote:
Im not directly nervous but i never have fun to play, i dont know why. When i see Sc2 streams i say to me "I want to play!!", but when i start sc2 and i see the "Find Match" Button, i dont have fun anymore i dont know why. Have anyone a good motivation to play??
When you don't have fun playing a game, i guess you should ... find another game?
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I didnt ladder in this year once... I sometimes play custom maps, they are pretty decent.
(diamon zerg)
I wait for Heart of the Swarm to see if they make Zerg viable again, give them some spells and units to deal with Protoss. Then I might enjoy playing again. But I feel the tsl3 has confirmed me, that Zergs have a too hard of a time and the other races look boring to me, so i don't feel like laddering at all.
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On April 21 2011 02:32 parn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2011 02:30 FaBe wrote:
Im not directly nervous but i never have fun to play, i dont know why. When i see Sc2 streams i say to me "I want to play!!", but when i start sc2 and i see the "Find Match" Button, i dont have fun anymore i dont know why. Have anyone a good motivation to play?? When you don't have fun playing a game, i guess you should ... find another game?
Its not "i dont have fun to play" its more "I dont want to loose" and im a bit scared to lose, so i dont start a game. Costum Games against friends make so much fun but i dont feel it on the ladder u know what i mean?
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i'm not going on a compliment fishing trip, really i'm not, so bear with me. but i was nervous when i first started in bronze on the ladder, but i eventually got used to it by just playing a lot. Eventually went up to silver still no nerves, but yesterday i was promoted to gold and i haven't played a game yet. i am pretty nervous, which is silly, but i just don't want to start getting rolled. ya know. you try so hard to get promoted and when it finally happens it's like damn, bye bye confidence.
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if im 200/200 vs a terran i get really nervous and start shaking for some reason.
i can barely control my army properly
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On April 21 2011 02:40 Wrath 2.1 wrote:
I didnt ladder in this year once... I sometimes play custom maps, they are pretty decent.
(diamon zerg)
I wait for Heart of the Swarm to see if they make Zerg viable again, give them some spells and units to deal with Protoss. Then I might enjoy playing again. But I feel the tsl3 has confirmed me, that Zergs have a too hard of a time and the other races look boring to me, so i don't feel like laddering at all.
When you're in diamond you dont lose because something is imba, its because you fucked something up in your own play.
OT: I lost all nervousness while playing ladder after the first 300-400 games
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I was a 3700 master last season
I feel incredibly stressed when Im "trying to convince myself to play starcraft"
I need to do that because there is no way I can play the game because I "want to"
When I click that find game button my heart pounds and sometimes I just cancel the countdown and browse reddit or something.
When I am actually in a game I feel super chill and nothing really bothers me but until I get in a match I feel very anxious.
Thats why I havent been playing for the past 2 weeks lol :D
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IMO the bulk of stress just before game and in game is derived from fact that this game is freaking fast.
In "fast" i mean fast-make-decisions game.
Banelings roll over you - you have as much as 1 or 2 seconds to make you decision what to do, how to split your marines, retreat or not. Protos death ball, ohh shit what should i do, etc...
If you want be really good you must be always concentrated on many game aspects, that is stressful factor for organism.
And when you hit "Find mach" button again your brain recalls the previous feelings (stress ones) that it felt, and you feel panic, that's why it's hard for many of people to hit it.
Actually it's not normal and it might lead in some health problems in the future. You better take this game as simple as just walking with friends or just don't play at all.
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